Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) caTCHER ecm (Marco's aka MAD)

[KatDiesel]

Well got my ECM software version, and also changed my tire size to match the 285/75/16 tires finally. Best of all didn't get charged a thing. First dealer told me they wanted $75 to hook up DRBIII, this dealer just hooked it up and asked me what I wanted to do. Even checked codes for grins and I told him which ones would be there... ... ... . and they were. Its amazing how different one dealer can be from another, his comment was just make sure you share the story of the previous dealer's answer and I said certainly! Just emailed Marco the number so now just waiting... ... ... ... You can enter in 400 to 900 RPM on the tire size in the ABD menu under "other".

 

[Marco]

MY corrections.

I recived the ECM's yesterday.



Good and bad news...



I have promised Murle's and Eric's will be the first ones to leave my shop shipped to them directly. In order to be 1000% sure that I deliver the correct SW... . before I work on them I check the software revision numbers they've provided me. OOOOOOPPPPPSSSS now that's odd. . them guys at DC musta have their heads upon their a..... you know what I want to say... .



To make a very long story as short as possible. I have two different tools to check the SW versions. One is printed the other is an elctronic data base.



In one, the softwares for both Murle and Eric are called "2000. 5", in the other they call the very same software revision, "2001 ( Early build )".



The good news are that it is easier than what I thought till yesterday to determine the correct SW for the MY 2001. That means that for the MY 2001 there are only early builds ( with rear drums ) or 2001's ( What we call here 2001. 5's with rear discs).



The 2000. 5 simply does not exist. So we're back to 12 different softwares.



The BAD news is that at this point I can not confirm what went wrong with Murle's second ECM. It HAS the "early build" (or 2000. 5 whatever we want to call it ) software in it. I've downloaded it from the ECM. It's the correct SW for that truck. It's SW revision 333033307J which is the latest update availabel for the original SW 333033305J that's in Murle's stock ECM.

It HAS to work but does not...



I'm working on it...



Marco

 

[832]

What excatly is the Ecm that he reflashes suppose to do? I'm kind of lost here.

 

[Marco]

OOOOOPPPPSSSS,



I've hit the submit reply button too soon...



I want to thank Murle and Eric, they got outta their way to get the SW# read. Maybe they don't know, but both are helping me BIG time to solve that da. . SW version problem.



Thanks



Marco

P. S. PM's to Murle and Eric are on their way.

 

[darkhorse]

The SW Jungle

I went to a dealer today to get my ECM scanned for the SW #. They came up with (383331305J) Marco, will that help you dertermine why my engine runs so strong but the cc doesn't work? Incidentally they didn't bother to write up a ticket so I wasn't charged a thing . The tech was a freindly sort & told me to take my time as I copied the #. He said he didn't get a chance to do much with the diesels. He was a drag racer in the 70's & kind of light up when I told him about the TDR. Now I'm going to go out & put my MAD CaTCHER back in as the truck feels quite sugish with the old SW.

 

[Amianthus]

... them guys at DC musta have their heads upon their a..... you know what I want to say... . Marco

It has been said that a picture is worth a thousand words. Were these the words you were looking for. :-laf :-laf

 

[JyRO]

Marco - I know you've got a go-zillion questions to answer. Here's another. Have you heard of the Hypertech? Isn't the purpose of the hypertech (www.hypertech.com) the same as your CaTCHER. Why or why not. Don't worry about me, I'm not rushing out to buy one. I realize the programming will be different but the target is likely the same.



I would think that if the hypertech was as good as it claims and safe to use, the TDR would've been all over 'em. As it stand, I think only a handfull of guys have a hypertech. I appreciate your open and honest opinion. I know basically nothing about them. At this time the hypertech is too much of a 'black box,' or unknown, for me. Thanks.



- JyRO

 

[Murle]

Just a little update here on my ECM



Marco and I have been PM back and forth and it is starting to look like we way have come upon a answer why the last ECM did not work in the truck. And may be a possible fix. If it happens the way I'm thinking it may keep some of you guys from having the same problem. There is no fault on Marco's side of the big lake or on this side of the big lake... . Just a learing experince for both of us. We will keep you guys posted if we find a answer. But is starting to smell better all the time.



This is a little time consuming but I think it will save problems down the road.



If you here me squeal it is just that I'm the guinea pig Oo.

 

[jponder]

Jyro> do you really think you are going to get an objective opinion here deep in the Catcher ECM Dungeon. I mean come on! The Catcher is the same as an edge that blows up your cruise control. Thats why its cheaper, you loose your cruise.

 

[Murle]

Just a little update here on my ECM



Marco and I have been PM back and forth and it is starting to look like we way have come upon a answer why the last ECM did not work in the truck. And may be a possible fix. If it happens the way I'm thinking it may keep some of you guys from having the same problem. There is no fault on Marco's side of the big lake or on this side of the big lake... . Just a learing experince for both of us. We will keep you guys posted if we find a answer. But is starting to smell better all the time.



This is a little time consuming but I think it will save problems down the road.



If you here me squeal it is just that I'm the guinea pig Oo.

 

[HoleshotHolset]

I alone stand against the ECM Poleece. Noone else has the balls to bust them

You're not alone. I'm less vocal about this product than I used to be. I got my point across... and now we're seeing some of the bumps in the road that I anticipated long ago. It happens with every product... not just this one.



Matt

 

[Marco]

Problem getting solved?

All,



The picture is getting clear now. The SW version problem is only with the 2001 early build trucks. It's not even a problem to understand what SW version is needed for a truck , the problem is...

well I'll tell you that once I'm 100% sure to have it found out.



I think I'm solving the problem with the "early build" 2001's.



First there was the problem with Murle's truck. ( "early build" 2001 )

When I got his ECM first thing I wrote the SW for my truck into it and did a rather long test drive. That was meant to rule out that the ECM had no hardware problems. I can confirm that now, the ECM works like a champ!



Hardware problems ruled out.



Mumble... . Hmmmm... Ohhhhhh... .



This morning I got an PM from Rip. The "early build" 2001 I did for him does not work too. Strange but sometimes a bad news is good news.

That makes me able to determine 100% that the problem is on my side!

You know, to solve a problem one has to understand first where it comes from, then and only then it's possible to search and find a fix for it.



Back to Murle's ECM.

Next thought was what happens if I write the early build SW into it and test it in my truck? Would the throttle work or not? From the MY 2001 the ECM will go into limp mode if driven in my truck but the throttle works.

( The throttle was the problem for Murle, no throttle response at all!!! )



Bingo no throttle in my truck either. Now I'm able to research the problem with my truck! That's VERY important!!!



I've tweaked the SW several times, voilà throttle is responding now!

Not right yet but it's starting to work... Oo.



Sorry Murle to have you involved into thsi BS but the early build are very different from the previous and later modells; I wasn't aware about it!

You better start to fire the BBQ... . :-laf



OK, I'll need some more time to work that bug out butI'm sure I WILL.



Marco

P. S. Got 12 PM's during the night... I'l try to answer them all.

P. S. 2- I NEED silence arround me to work that problem out, have to be concentrated on it... Most probably will not check back over the weekend.

 

[Marco]

Before I log off...

Jyro sez:

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Marco - I know you've got a go-zillion questions to answer. Here's another. Have you heard of the Hypertech? Isn't the purpose of the hypertech (www.hypertech.com) the same as your CaTCHER. Why or why not. Don't worry about me, I'm not rushing out to buy one. I realize the programming will be different but the target is likely the same.

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First of all, I have no first hand knowledge, I've not seen or used the hypertech programmer. I can't say what it does performance wise. What it does is to reflash the ECM's memory with performance files, similar to what I'm doing. Sure the ways to do it are very different but from the ECM's point of view it's the same. New software...



Same thing goes for the Superchips hand held programmer. From what I've read here it doesn't add much performance.



Marco

 

[Murle]

Hang in there Marco... . Just ordered a cord of wood for the BBQ. Just in case



Just a little word of thanks to you Italian's over there... . Thanks for sending your troops in helping us fight terrorists in Iraq. And standing behind us and supporting us when the Iraqi militants are trying to get Italy to pull out of Iraq.



I did get to see some of the posts that was deleted here yesterday and most of us do not want or wish those things to happen to Italy.



To those who posted those unkind words about Marco's and his country, Your walking on the fighting side of me when you say those things.



If anyone here has the right to be upset at Marco it is me. Maco has been most understanding and has been working hard to solve my problem. I'm not upset and have never been upset. Maro and I are working on this together and we will get it solve..... Enough said.

 

[JyRO]

Jyro> do you really think you are going to get an objective opinion here deep in the Catcher ECM Dungeon. I mean come on! The Catcher is the same as an edge that blows up your cruise control. Thats why its cheaper, you loose your cruise.

JPonder - Have you ever heard the saying, "it doesn't hurt to ask?" It seems to me that as forthcoming and honest as Marco has been all along (I read every post ... took a while and I can't remember them all of course), I felt I stood a good chance of getting an honest and open answer out of him. And from his reply, it seems he answered it honestly. His reply is basically what I am/was thinking too, which leads me to believe he was honest about his understanding.



Now, were you saying the edge blows up the cruise control? I haven't had any trouble with either my edge or the cruise ... and I use them both alot. So...



... then I have to assume your next sentence is saying the CaTCHER blows up the cruise and is cheaper. I think I've read that the CaTCHER has caused the cruise not to work in some cases, but that Marco has a handle on that too. However, according to what I've seen & read on here about what people have paid or will pay for the CaTCHER, then I bought my EZ brand new for less money.



You're my bud JPonder ... but your confusing my already comprehensionally challenged brain. Your reply didn't make sense (to me anyway). It could be me though, I don't know whether to wind my butt, or scratch my watch ... I'm nuckin' futs. Hoo hoo hee hee, etc. etc. (See what I mean? I think I'm funny too, but from what I gather, nobody else does )



- JyRO

 

[Marco]

I'm just taking a napp from my personal fight with DC's software's.

No more hair left, all finger nails are chewed and the ashtray is full...

I'll have to try the beer thing now!



Murle what did I miss???

You say:

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I did get to see some of the posts that was deleted here yesterday and most of us do not want or wish those things to happen to Italy.

snip

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?????????????????



Personally, I can't always understand the way the US acts. I often can't back up the way you handle the international politics. Hey, we're not all the same... .



What I KNOW for sure is that the world without Saddam IS a better place.

What I KNOW for sure is that without your troops Saddam would still be there

What I KNOW for sure is that the pictures that came through the screen on

07/11 have hurt my feelings as a civilized man. God WILL judge the responsible... . Might they burn in hell!



'Nough said?



Marco

On Edit, ops that is 09/11, BAD typo... . sorry

 

[Murle]

Marco you have been PM.....

 

[KatDiesel]

Marco -



You said I had a PM, but I haven't recieved a PM or an email from you that I am aware of... . just FYI.





Also want to point out to those that may not know, english is not Marco's first langauge so he might have trouble saying what he wants to say or understanding us.

 

[darkhorse]

God WILL judge the responsible... . Might they burn in hell!



'Nough said?



Marco[/QUOTE]





You said plenty there, Marco. I'm with you 100%

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

God WILL judge the responsible... . Might they burn in hell!



'Nough said?



Marco

You said plenty there, Marco. I'm with you 100%[/QUOTE]

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