Chrysler Puts Hold On G-56 Equipped Deliveries

[RJOL]

Don't have all the facts about this, but here is what I've been told. Chrysler has put a delivery hold on all new G-56 6 speeds. If the truck is on the dealer lot, it can be sold. If it is in production, or on the rails to be delivered, they will not release the vehicle.



There seems to be a problem with the "flex plate. " This is what I'm being told by the largest volume Dodge dealer in the Northwest. I'm going to call their tech rep tomorrow and see if I can get more information.



This may be a minor problem, or it could be a significant delay. My local dealer didn't tell me about this, until today, even though the information has been out there since Friday or Saturday, last week. They didn't tell me what the problem was, just that there was a hold. Had to call another dealer for more information.



Those of us with the G-56 manual transmission ordered now have a major decision to make. Wait and see if it is a minor fix (doesn't sound like it, or I think they would have released them to the dealers), cancel the order and buy something else, or wait for them to get it all ironed out and buy a truck later. This is a real bummer...

 

[TRUEBLUE]

Yeah, I found out about it friday. I was specing out a new 05 and the computer at the dealer wouldn't even list a manual transmission as an option. Now I am scrambling trying to find a 6speed on a lot that is close to what I was going to order> good luck with your truck. Todd

 

[RJOL]

Yeah, I found out about it friday. I was specing out a new 05 and the computer at the dealer wouldn't even list a manual transmission as an option. Now I am scrambling trying to find a 6speed on a lot that is close to what I was going to order> good luck with your truck. Todd

All we had been told, until today, is that there was a hold on ordering the G-56 and we thought it was due to a shortage... Sounds like it may be more significant then that...

 

[Matt400]

Flex plates are on autos and fly wheels are on sticks, ok... I know what you mean, the round thingy the clutch bolts up to.

 

[RJOL]

Flex plates are on autos and fly wheels are on sticks, ok... I know what you mean, the round thingy the clutch bolts up to.

Your right... This is what the salesman said, but he must have meant the DMF or something else. All I know is that there is a hold...

 

[Matt400]

It might be a good thing, you don't want something that is not right.

I ordered a brand new 03 2500 that was pulled from the rail car due to paint trouble. They found out the primer was contaminated and the paint would not hold well.



I am still thankful today I never saw that truck because it was a Hemi!

Yes I coulda had a Hemi

 

[GRudy]

Flex plates are on autos and fly wheels are on sticks, ok... I know what you mean, the round thingy the clutch bolts up to.

Matt, Check out this post by Peter (southbend clutch) https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126687

He mentions that the flywheel bolts to a plate like a torque converter.

 

[Suthers]

Well that sure stinks. I guess I will have to make some calls tomorrow and see what is going on. One thing though, I wont be running to Ferd or Cheby. Guess I have to see if I want a slush box or just hold off for now.

 

[gsbrockman]

I believe my little 305/555 six shooter just became more valuable.

Greg

 

[RJOL]

It might be a good thing, you don't want something that is not right...

You might be right, but now I have to decide whether to stick this out, cancel my order and get a 48RE auto, or just put this off till the 06 comes out. Major crimp in the Summer plans, and I don't own a truck anymore...

 

[Matt400]

I smell something

What bothers me now about that link is the Dual Mass Flywheel those are coming with. Dual Mass Flywheels are super expensive and manufactures are always looking for ways to cut costs yet we have a DMF.



I would bet the DMF was handed down by engineering for use with the new trans to make it (the trans) live behind the CTD. I have seen the DMF behind the 7. 3 Fords. Bombers may find that a solid flywheel might take its toll on the new trans.



Here is a typical cutaway view:

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And for those interested as to "why" such an expensive complex flywheel you can read more here

 

[jwilliams3]

The reference above to a flexplate is somewhat accurate, except it doesnt flex.

Its a smaller diameter version of a flywheel that the actual DM flywheel bolts up to.

 

[FATCAT]

The DMF (best guess so far) strikes already ... bad omen.

 

[supersonic]

OK, I've found two of them on the lots around here and thy were both leaking trans fluid out the input shaft seal, and the clutch slipped really bad on both of em' (because of oil). Didn't notice any prob. with any thing else though, very nice trans, IMO

 

[mlandis2]

How nice



So much for mine showing up next week

 

[JCleary]

OK, I've found two of them on the lots around here and thy were both leaking trans fluid out the input shaft seal, and the clutch slipped really bad on both of em' (because of oil). Didn't notice any prob. with any thing else though, very nice trans, IMO

Soooo, the local dealer wasn't lying. Last week I went in to drive a G56 equipped truck, and when they did a locate they told me the closest one was in Ohio.



I thought they were full of it, but maybe not? Maybe it's a combination of asupply problem, input shaft problem, and no one in CA that knowing what the heck a stickshift is

 

[RJOL]

Just got off the phone with a high volume CTD dealer in the Northwest. Here is what they know. They got a copy of a Chrysler notification to all "haulers" (the guys who take the trucks from the destination rail yard to the dealers). Chrysler has told them to put all 2500's and 3500's, with the G-56, on hold and not to deliver any of them to the dealers, "under any circumstances. " The dealer does not know exactly what the problem is, and does not know how long the delay will be for. They have not been told "not to sell" the units, but they cannot take delivery until Chrysler releases them. They can sell ones that have already arrived at the lots. Now we just stand by an wait to see...

 

[RustyJC]

Chrysler has told them to put all 2500's and 3500's, with the G-56, on hold and not to deliver any of them to the dealers, "under any circumstances. " The dealer does not know exactly what the problem is, and does not know how long the delay will be for. They have not been told "not to sell" the units, but they cannot take delivery until Chrysler releases them. They can sell ones that have already arrived at the lots.

Hmmm..... that last sentence wouldn't make ME feel warm and fuzzy about taking delivery. My old, notchy, clanky, buzzy, bulletproof NV5600 is looking better all the time!



Rusty

 

[RTuvell]

OK, I've found two of them on the lots around here and thy were both leaking trans fluid out the input shaft seal, and the clutch slipped really bad on both of em' (because of oil). Didn't notice any prob. with any thing else though, very nice trans, IMO

How would you know they are leaking trans fluid from the input shaft seal?



It seems to me that if you see some oil at the bottom of the bell housing where the transmission and engine meet, that oil could be coming from either the engine crank seal or the trany input shaft seal. The only way you would know for sure the source of the leak is to separate the trany from the engine and inspect both seals.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

How would you know they are leaking trans fluid from the input shaft seal?



It seems to me that if you see some oil at the bottom of the bell housing where the transmission and engine meet, that oil could be coming from either the engine crank seal or the trany input shaft seal. The only way you would know for sure the source of the leak is to separate the trany from the engine and inspect both seals.

WELL, actually, oil leaking from the rear engine main seal would (on a NORMAL flywheel!) tend to stay primarily on the engine side of the flywheel - while seepage from the transmission input shaft has a pretty direct access to the clutch surface. The DM flywheel might sorta cloud that issue, since its segmented construction may well also allow rear main oil flow to the clutch as well...