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Cost to convert to p-pump?

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FASS is removed , but have questions.

Polished my new turbo (Piers HX35/14)

Just thinking (dreaming? haha) about different options for my truck. Does anyone have a definitive cost sheet for a p-pump conversion? Not including the cost of the pump itself, as I know that'll vary...

Would it be easier/cheaper to keep the 24V head or to convert to a 12V head at the same time?

Chris
 
just buy a good running 96-98 5sp motor, swap the whole thing in, and sell your 24v motor... probably won't cost you very much at all that way.



Forrest
 
I agree with Forest, I think if you really want to have the P-pump, switching engines would be the best way. I don't see how the 24V head could be modified to use the 12V pump. You would have to want that 12V set-up awfully bad to go through the troubles associated with such a change. I t would be much easier to find yourself a good looking 12V truck and go from there.
 
well, he's not going to find a 12v truck with a 6sp or rear disk brakes... and if he's got a quad cab, the probability of him finding a 12v QC is pretty slim as well...



I think the swap could be done without getting hurt too badly in the pocket when it's all said and done.



if I had my druthers, I'd have a 3rd gen w/ a P-pumped 12v in it.



Forrest
 
re.

I have everything you need for the p pump conversion,The pump ,timing cover, oil lines,p pump to 24 valve head inj. lines,fuel inlet line and return line gear ,and mount. PM me for a price,easy swap except you need to pull the cam gear.
 
I concede that he most certainly will not find a 12V with 6-speed or rear disk, but my point is the addition on such items as a 6-speed transmission or the conversion of a Dana 80 to rear brakes is much easier and direct then switching and 12V into a 24V's home. Almost anyone could convert rear disk brakes, 5 or 6-speed trany, auto to manual, SRW to DRW and so on, the parts exist and it's merely a matter of physical change, granted some minor mods might be necessary, but mainly you have guide line to follow. The 24V engine to P-pump change is not that cut and dry, nor have I heard of anyone doing it. The 12V engine into the 24V compartment is easier then the conversion to a 12V, but still a Major undertaking. I would very much prefer to buy a decent 12V, which is not that hard to come by, the local trader has 27 that I count tonight, and convert it to the 6-speed with or without rear disk brakes. The rear brakes found on the 2nd generation trucks are very adequate when properly adjusted and outfitted with quality parts. I to do not care for the 3rd gen looks, inside or out. I respect those who have them, but I nor my wife would ever want one. We have ridden in several over the years and neither was very impressed. I would not call them GIRLY, no big diesel truck looks girly to me, but compared to the newer Fords they do not exactly look as manly, nor do they have the rating the new Fords have.
 
y-knot said:
The 24V engine to P-pump change is not that cut and dry, nor have I heard of anyone doing it.



I think there have been some posts on here about the conversion. I also think HVAC did it. One problem was that the 24 valve cam does not have a lobe for the mechanical lift pump. Maybe someone can chime in here that knows for sure and can comment on the necessary changes.
 
I figure he's got a truck that he loves, and he knows the history of the parts, etc...



the 12v engine bolts right in... hook up your fuel lines, connect a few wires, and you're in business... the 12v is a stupid engine... doesn't need an ECM, etc.



I contend that it would cost more to swap a 6sp and rear disks into a 12v truck than it would to swap a 12v engine into a 24v engine... especially if you consider how much you could get for the 24v engine/computer/etc. !



now... I would probably look for a 12v truck... the motor swap would be more work, but I think it could be done cheaper.



I wouldn't put a p-pump on a 24v engine.



Forrest
 
P-pumped 24v's can be done and run very well, there are several of them out there done by at least a couple of vendors/individuals.



Craig
 
HVAC did my conversion. It cost some money but I tried to buy good parts from reputable people. It is not that big of a deal to do . But sometimes tuning is a little weird. You don't just go to twins and mach 6's and make x amount of power. Mine is slowly coming along. As I learn more the frustration is less. I do not agree as to the availability of low mileage 12 valve motors. I looked for several months and found nothing less than 80k miles. If my dad put those miles on it would be great. But if one of the "cool, I can bury my 1800 deg pyro in 4th gear" guys put the 80k on it, no thanks. Wish more people would do it so I could see what they are using to make it go. Sorry about the girlie comment. It's just that lately I have been seeing these 1 ton dually 3rd gens that are low to the ground with a 4000 dollar bumper,camper shell with carpet kit, and a driver wearing slacks and a shirt with a little alligator on the pocket talking on a cell phone with a double mocha with whipped cream and sprinkles resting in the electronic hideaway temperature controlled cupholder that was a 480 dollar option with a waiting list. I guess I'm just old and have simple tastes.
 
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RonA said:
It's just that lately I have been seeing these 1 ton dually 3rd gens that are low to the ground with a 4000 dollar bumper,camper shell with carpet kit, and a driver wearing slacks and a shirt with a little alligator on the pocket talking on a cell phone with a double mocha with whipped cream and sprinkles resting in the electronic hideaway temperature controlled cupholder that was a 480 dollar option with a waiting list. I guess I'm just old and have simple tastes.



Sootscooter said:
Whats wrong with sprinkles?



Thanks alot, i was drinking a coke, and now my monitor is very sticky :p
 
Seen one.

Ridden in one.

Want one.



I was told Piers can do it for somewhere in the ballpark of 5 stacks of high society.



Dave
 
Might want to check with Piers, but last I heard he is not doing them right now. :)



I would like a P for my 24v, but it's simply not cost effective right now. IF I get another car in several months then I think I will do it, but not until I have something to fall back on while I do the work. ;)



Andrew
 
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