Crew, Quad, Ex-Cab, Whatever!!!

[CCahill]

I don't need a crew cab. . Allthough I certainly see the need for it... Soooooooooooo Why can't we have a real one. .



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But I do have a use for an Extended Cab...



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Is this too much to ask... . They have been building Ex. cabs for years, and now if I want a little xtra room in back, I hve to suffer with a suedo "Quad Cab"



One or the other, or both... Not something in between... .....





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[roycrown]

I agree, this is a Huge, Huge mistake, not offering an extended cab. This was my first impression after seeing the 1500's, where is the extended cab? I am a regular cab guy, but realize the needs of others, and notice the large number of extended cabs of all makes on the road today. I seriously doubt that every person today driving an extended cab really wants a crew cab, or even a 4 door. I believe this failure to offer an extended cab rates right up there with the dropping (destroying the original tooling!) of the 400/440 engine after '78. For a 10 year period, up untill the '89 introduction of the Cummins, the largest engine offering was a measly 360. Imagine, a one ton 4x4, crew cab dually Dodge 360, while Ford offered a 460, and Chevy a 454. I have a 360 in my W-150, it is just barely adequately powered (when not towing) To attempt to tow a large trailer with a one ton crew cab dually 4x4 with this drivetrain must have been embarrassing, not to mention dangerous!, and had to contribute to the sale of a lot of Fords/Chevys in the process.

 

[KCJackson]

The new Regular cab IS an extended cab! You know how much behind-the-seat room there is now? Add <B>five more inches</B> of floor depth. At the dealer intro for the 1500s, they put three 5-gallon buckets on the floor behind the seat, and the driver was completely comfortable. The new Regular cab has almost as much floor space as the old D/W Club Cab.

 

[roycrown]

All well and good, but does it have factory seating behind the driver?, I don't think so, that is what I meant. There are people who would not consider a regular cab, but really do not want a 4 door either.

 

[DHawthorne]

Well guys, I'm tired of waiting. I love my cummins 6sp quad 3500 but I want a crew cab. I'm going to wait and see if Ford comes out with the in line 6 next year which I hear will be 400 cubes or so. It will be a good engine, same as is on the street now in the larger trucks. If they do that, I'm going to be in a Ford Crew Cab Dually. My sons 96 Dodge Cummins has 186k on it and the other company truck (96) has 158k on it with no problems. Mines got 67k on it now, still stock with no problems yet, not even a lift pump.



Dave

 

[roycrown]

Those Fords are butt-ugly

 

[Chipstien]

I don't know... . Fords aren't that bad, it's the chubbies that look like a POS.

 

[roycrown]

The Chevies are nearly invisible to me, my eyes rarely even give them a passing glance as I would not consider the possibility of owning one. As one who comes from a Ford family, who's first car was a Ford, who has many fond memories of certain Ford's, I am greatly offended by the styling of their "Super Duty".

 

[Posm]

DHawthorne

Ford is not coming in with an inline 6 they are going to come out with a 6 Liter V-8. They are looking at 350HPand 550FT/LBS.



I would guess that they will need to get a lot of RPMs to make more power from less cubes. They are going to use a high pressure rail and a variable turbo. The Ferd folks are calling it a G-2 and it will be an IH engine from Navistar.

 

[DHawthorne]

Sorry for the mis information, if it is mis information, however I heard that it was going to be an inline 6 for the powerstroke and a V-6 for the Expedition.



The V-6 being low hp and good mileage. I think it was in trailer life

about the v-6 for the Expedition.



I guess someone else will figure it out, and it don't matter anyway. If it comes out, I'm buying.



Dave

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

I saw the prototype G2 at the Chicago auto show when I was covering it for the '03 Dodge 2500/3500 launch. It's definately a V8. Here's a post from the ford diesel website with lots of information on the new engine - http://forums.ford-diesel.com/ubbth...d=UBB33&Number=663939&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1

 

[redram]

Originally posted by DHawthorne

Well guys, I'm tired of waiting. I love my cummins 6sp quad 3500 but I want a crew cab. I'm going to wait and see if Ford comes out with the in line 6 next year which I hear will be 400 cubes or so. It will be a good engine, same as is on the street now in the larger trucks. If they do that, I'm going to be in a Ford Crew Cab Dually. My sons 96 Dodge Cummins has 186k on it and the other company truck (96) has 158k on it with no problems. Mines got 67k on it now, still stock with no problems yet, not even a lift pump.



Dave

The new Ford Navistar "6" is a V-6 not an I-6. It will have more horsepower and torque than the current V-8. These engines have been in field testing for 24 months now. They are for real.

 

[kmiller]

V6

I thought the V6 was for the Expedition and maybe F150?

 

[danandamy]

Originally posted by Steve St. Laurent

I saw the prototype G2 at the Chicago auto show when I was covering it for the '03 Dodge 2500/3500 launch. It's definately a V8. Here's a post from the ford diesel website with lots of information on the new engine - http://forums.ford-diesel.com/ubbth...d=UBB33&Number=663939&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1

Say Steve, while you were at the show, did you by any chance find out what kind of automatic the new Ram will have? I heard it's an Allison.



autodan

 

[KCJackson]

Won't be the Allison, especially with DC about to sue GM for the Jeep grille copyright infringement.



The automatic used with the 305/555 Cummins will be a heavily upgraded 47RE, named the 48RE. Won't be ready til about January 2003 from last word I heard, and no ratio information yet. DC expects it to be a strong competitor to the Ford 4R100 automatic used with the Stroke.

 

[DHawthorne]

I whent back and looked through what I read and found that the Powerstroke replacement is a V8 and Not a Inline 6 as I heard and read somewhere. It was suppose to be a variant of the DT444 International engine which has been on the street in the larger trucks for some time.



Most of what I read was in the TDR. "Blowing in the Wind" Issue

35 Feb, Mar, and April on page 68 "Light Truck Diesels" which talks about the V-6 4. 5 Liter for the light trucks under 8500 lbs

as in the Expedition and F-150's.



Don't need to say anymore, just go read it.

 

[whathill]

What was the payoff?

Long time, no talk. This is "whathill". Just a little background. MOPAR, yea. '68 Hemi Cuda SS/AA. '70 Hemi Cuda SS/AA. '72 3/4 ton Dodge, 4x4, 440. '73 Dodge, 3/4 ton TRUE CREW CAB, 440 auto. '96 3/4 ton Diesel Ram, Lemon piece of ****, brk problems. Dodge buys back. '98 1 ton 5 spd Diesel Ram. Numerous engine and lift pump problems. Traded in for '01 1 ton Diesel Ram, HO 6 spd. 25k miles, vibration in trans area already. This was to be the transition truck to the "REAL CREW CAB" this year. Yeah, right!! What a joke!! A little boys cab on a real mans' chassis. I'm 6'1", excluding the wife, my crew is 6'2" and 6'4" MEN!! With me driving the 1500, and the 6'2" man behind my seat, he wanted out in 10 miles, said it was very uncomfortable. Now, my question is " DC, how much did "FERD" and "Chove it or leave it" pay you guys not to make a real crew cab?" It must have been a lot to keep the real truck buying public from buying your product. Like an earlier post stated, my brother has a crew cab Ford and literally a man could sleep on the floor while another sits in the seat and not run out of room. As well as the previous mentioned DC products, we currently have a '95 Avenger, '01 PT Cruiser and have been loyal MOPAR people since the dates above. I guess to get a real truck, you have to spend the money and buy a Freightliner. The only thing worthwhile about the '03 Rams is the Cummins engine. HEY!! All you 5' men, Dodge has the right truck for you.



Totally disgusted. #@$%! DC, thanks for nothing.