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Press Release Source: Chrysler Group





20041/2 Dodge Ram Heavy Duty Cummins '600' Powers Past the Competition With the Strongest Heavy-Duty Pickup Ever

Wednesday December 3, 12:14 pm ET

- New High Output Cummins "600" Turbo Diesel Produces Class-Dominating 600 lb. -ft. of torque - New Engine Tougher, Quieter and Meets 50-state Emissions Requirements - Best-in-class Towing, GCWR and GVWR





AUBURN HILLS, Mich. , Dec. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Dodge, the brand that revolutionized the diesel pickup market when it launched the state-of- the-art 1989 Dodge Ram Cummins Turbo Diesel, announced today the 20041/2 Dodge Ram Heavy Duty Cummins "600" with a class-dominating 600 lb. -ft. of torque at 1,600 rpm and 325 horsepower at 2,900 rpm. Equipped with the new Cummins "600," the Dodge Ram Heavy Duty takes its position at the head of the heavy- duty pickup segment.

(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20031203/DEW013 )

Domination Across the Board



"The Dodge Ram dominates in every category," said Darryl Jackson, Vice President, Dodge Marketing, Chrysler Group. "With the new Ram Heavy Duty Cummins "600," the Ram family of trucks now includes the strongest heavy-duty pickup available, the fastest production pickup with the 150 mph Dodge Ram SRT-10, and the most powerful, mass-produced light-duty pickup, the HEMI- powered Dodge Ram 1500. This is an exciting time for Dodge. "



In addition to the most torque ever available in a production heavy-duty pickup, the Dodge Ram Heavy Duty Cummins "600" boasts best-in-class towing capability of 16,400 lbs. (a 3,000 lb. advantage over the Ford F-350 PowerStroke®), a payload of 5,020 lbs. and a best-in-class Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) and Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of 23,000 lbs. and 12,000 lbs. , respectively. Additionally, the new Cummins "600" generates its peak torque of 600 lb. -ft. at 1,600 rpm, earlier than either Ford's PowerStroke or Chevrolet's Duramax® diesels. The new Cummins "600" delivers an 80 lb. -ft. torque and 25 horsepower advantage over Chevrolet Duramax and is priced just $135 more than the previous Cummins High Output Turbo Diesel. The Standard Output Cummins Turbo Diesel is dropped from the Ram Heavy Duty line- up.



"The Ram Heavy Duty has the most sophisticated chassis in the segment, the biggest brakes, excellent handling and class-exclusive safety features such as side curtain air bags," said Eric Ridenour, Executive Vice President Product Development. "It is only fitting that it now has the most powerful diesel engine. This is also the quietest Ram diesel ever and the first High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel that meets 50-state emissions requirements. "



Do More, Get the Job Done



The names Dodge Ram and Cummins are synonymous with power, durability and quality. All are characteristics that made the Dodge Ram Heavy Duty Motor Trend's 2003 Truck of the Year and merited a best-in-class rating for the Cummins-powered Dodge Ram Heavy Duty in the J. D. Powers 2003 Initial Quality Survey, surpassing both Ford PowerStroke and Chevrolet Duramax.



With real-world customers in mind, the re-designed 5. 9-liter Cummins "600" powerplant not only meets 50-state emissions requirements, but was designed to be even tougher with premium exhaust valves and seats, high-strength exhaust manifolds, gallery cooled pistons and an oil bath turbo system.



Built for high-mileage customers who need the most capability available, the new Cummins "600" delivers best-in-class oil change intervals of 15,000 miles (versus 7,500 for the competition) and is the only heavy-duty diesel pickup pre-equipped for an exhaust brake. The Ram Heavy Duty Cummins "600" is also capable of zero-throttle launches, enabling smooth drive-offs under load with the 6-speed manual transmission. An automatic transmission is also available with the new Cummins "600. "



"Our goal during the development of the Cummins '600' was to make meaningful changes, not just chase numbers," said Frank Klegon, Vice President, Truck Product Team. "The Ram Heavy Duty Cummins '600' delivers more torque and power where our customer needs it, under a full load and heading up a steep grade. We designed the Ram Heavy Duty Cummins '600' for the severe use customer, and for them, torque is everything. Dodge is also the only heavy-duty pickup manufacturer confident enough in our product to offer a seven year, 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. "



The Dodge Ram Heavy Duty is built in Saltillo, Mexico.
 
:--) Well, we knew it was coming!!!! The horsepower war is just

Beginning!!! Don't count on Ford and GM to stand by idle.



Chris
 
Also, niote the next-to-last line of the press release... instead of the previous 5/100 Cummins warranty combined with a 7/70 DC powertrain warranty, Cummins Rams have a single 7/100 plan for engine and drivetrain.



Ford and GM can (try to) match or exceed the power, but I dare them to offer a factory warranty of 7/100 on the entire powertrain.
 
DC was still listing the 7/70 and 5/100 combo warranty in their media stats. Likely a quiet change to 7/100 for the diesels in 2004.
 
2004 Truck any good?

My truck is scheduled for delivery on the 23-24th of this month. If all goes well I should have it prepped with my accessories to drive home in January. With the emissions added to pass inspections, I still believe my 04 to be a better truck with only 305-555, but the whole number of 600 ft-lbs does have a nice sound to it.



I hope the older 04 trucks can be re flashed to the newer program. We will find out soon just what is added hardware wise to make the 04. 5 different. I hope nothing to the engine itself, and all changes are made downstream in the exhaust flow.



Don
 
I can't help but wonder a couple things:



1. Is this "Cummins 600" EGR-equipped?

2. Does it have a VGT?

3. Are the enhanced exhaust valves and manifold different than on the earlier ISBe trucks?





In other words, is it just some software changes to boost the power?
 
Well I am glade for Dodge, I have been known to ride them a little hard, and all I ever wanted was for them to get more aggressive with the changes. I hope this is just that, some changes in engine and I really hope auto transmission. Dodge has not let me down, I am tickled to death. Almost feel a little sorry for the ones that bought with-in the last 6 months?
 
Well I ain't sorry... . we're talking 45 lb/ft torque and 20 horsepower... . in the grand scheme of things this is simple PR... . not real world differences that will make or break a truck. I can over come those numbers in the blink of an eye.



Plus I'm happy about no emissions... . which was my main concern about getting the 04 pre-emission.



But I will take those Cummins 600 badges if they do change them.



:D
 
Eaton Transmission

I'm kind of surprised that the Eaton Auto Trans rumor has re-surfaced. It was reported by a website called Allpar.com about 2 years ago that DC and Eaton were in talks to develop a new 6 speed auto for the Cummins. But that was the last time I have seen anything on it, and I search for info quite often. I was on a couple other forums today (DTR & Camping world) and some seem to think that the Eaton will be an option. One person on Camping world said that info came straight from a dealer (which can obviously be completely wrong). I would think that if the eaton were an option than it would have been announced today in the press release, mainly because the transmission is as big a deal as the engine. I know many people that have chosen the PSD or the D-Max over the mighty Cummins simply for the transmission. If Dodge were to produce a truck with the Cummins 600 backed up by an Eaton Automatic, I have a feeling that they wouldn't be able to build them fast enough to meet the demand. :eek:
 
Dodge has stated that the 48RE will not work with an exhaust break on the 03 and 04 models, but will be equipped to handle an exhaust brake after the 1st of the year. The previous 48RE transmissions will not be upgradable. I really doubt that they will offer any other auto trans than the 48RE.
 
Heck ya... I passed this thread along to the guys over at thedesielstop.com. Dodge is on fire with this one... I also like the catchy name -- Cummins 600.



I just bought an '04 about 1 month ago. I guess I'll just have to bomb a bit to keep up! :D



Jeff
 
Originally posted by curatchko

Well I ain't sorry... . we're talking 45 lb/ft torque and 20 horsepower... . in the grand scheme of things this is simple PR... . not real world differences that will make or break a truck. I can over come those numbers in the blink of an eye.
Not real wor;d differences from the 03/04 Cummins HO, but ask anyone with a 12-valve, pre-common-rail 24-valve, or the common rail SO engine. Me, I'll be going from a 180/420 12-valve to a 325/600 ISBe sometime next year. That's an 80% increase in horsepower, and over 42% increase in torque. That will indeed make a difference. Those with the original rating of 160/400 are looking at over double the horses, and a full 50% torque increase. The Cummins uprate kit for 12 valves makes 230/605 - torque isn't as steady (this new engine is still hammering 588 lb-ft at the hp peak of 2900rpm - the 12 valve doesn't even rev that high), and you're down almost 100 horses.



This new engine isn't for someone who just bought a Ram, it's for us folks who have the older trucks and need that one last shove into the dealership for a new one.
 
Ohh, I like it. I had a huge smile on when reading that.



Cummins kicks International's rear again.



Wanna bet how many problems the new Cummins will have? I bet nothing like the new PSD is.



Merrick
 
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