Cummins Rams - Evil Death Machines

[catoiler]

I'm regularly surprised (pleasantly) at how many regular Joe's think the "global warming"/"climate crisis" movement is utter baloney. I mean, your average working man seems to think Al Gore and all his celebrity nuts are blowing things way out of proportion.

Seems to be mostly people with loads of money, free time, and a hunger to rule people's lives who are pushing the whole thing along.

Ryan

Well Ryan, If you think you are above anybody WRONG! Last time I checked Al Gore has quite a bit of money and power as do most of the celebs. Here is a bit of reading for you. Enjoy.



CorpWatch
:
Al Gore: The Other Oil Candidate



WorldNetDaily: Gore's 'carbon offsets' paid to firm he owns



Riehl World View: Al Gore's Inconvenient Loot



Creators of carbon credit scheme cashing in on it



Media Ignore Al Gore’s Financial Ties to Global Warming | NewsBusters.org



NussbaumOnDesign Al Gore's Carbon Footprint Is Big. - BusinessWeek



The list is endless :-{}

 

[Mhannink]

YA THINK? LOL:-laf:-laf:-laf



Lets see here... ... . 1 quart per hour at idle, and four times less under load.



Hmmm, if I drive 80 mph down the interstate, I should be able to use 8 oz. of fuel? That's 1280 mpg!

Maybe I need new plugs and wires?

Yes, get the platnium plugs they are the best.

You need to drill holes right next to the glow plugs!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!

dont laugh to hard they have them now lol and yes if your truck doesnt want to start it might just need new plugs lmao.



one thing i find about all this thats just plain stupid is the variable valve actuators(sp). i dont know all the applictions they are on but the new acert cat engines have them. their job is to open the intake valve and bleed off compression. so the 40+ lbs of boost and whatever compression the engine has is for nothing. all for what? for reduced emissions. stupid i think

 

[rbattelle]

Well Ryan, If you think you are above anybody WRONG!

Wait, Catoiler, I think you read me wrong. I'm on your side! I'm an average Joe! I guess what I was trying to say in my last post was that I'm pleasantly surprised that, for the most part, your average American seems to think Al Gore and his movement are mostly overhyped.



I certainly don't think I'm above anyone! Let me be clear about that.



Ryan

 

[catoiler]

I was on the fence about that Ryan, I was ready to fire hard but read it again and went easy. Read some of the links and it should be an eye opener for most.

 

[rbattelle]

I was on the fence about that Ryan, I was ready to fire hard but read it again and went easy. Read some of the links and it should be an eye opener for most.

I went back and edited my other post. Lord knows I don't want anyone thinking that I think I'm somehow better than anyone.



Again, I apologize for the confusion. I blame Al Gore for it.



Ryan

 

[catoiler]

I blame Al Gore for it.



Ryan

:-laf:-laf:-laf

 

[tmh1955]

I'm With Kry226

Very subtle sarcasm can be hard for some people to detect.



I think there have been a lot of legs pulled.



Get over it.



Tim

 

[JWash1]

Again, I apologize for the confusion. I blame Al Gore for it.



Ryan[/QUOTE]



No-one ever wants to accept responsibility for their own actions these days#@$%!

 

[JRunkal]

hahahaha every time i leave that stop sign ill be sure to put out as much thick black smoke as possible and try not to run over a little honda

 

[Ncostello]

I guess I'm the only one who can detect the sarcasm in the first post. I think Ncostello is being entirely satirical about how ludicrous the "green movement" can be.



Probably has no intention of buying a hybrid.

Thank you KRY226 and many others!!!



Especially MN Cummins LVR for saying...

I think NCostello's thread is some good ole' 1st Gen humor that you guys aren't catching

That IS a fact.



Thank you long time posters for coming to my aid. Enough years on here and one can smell the sarcasm often presented in posts.



I WAS making fun of the article and how it would scare a non-diesel enthusiast into thinking even more and untrue "bad" things about diesels.



I suppose its true that 50% of the feeling is always lost in emails, texts and instant messages. In this case it seems to be about 99%.



I DO OWN a D250. 1st Gen. So obviously I'm not exactly a charter member of any green organization.



Besides. I think its cheaper to buy a new Ram Cummins that a Hybrid Honda. So I'll stick with my fullsize trucks.



JCOSTELLO... I didn't expect such harshness from family. Whoever you are. Apology accepted

 

[Kennywould]

I like the first paragraph in that 10 second article, hmmm! I don't think she ever lived in Duluth MN when the temp is about -25 in the morning and that fuel injected motor doesn't need to warm up??? Good freakin grief!!!

 

[fox]

I went back and edited my other post. Lord knows I don't want anyone thinking that I think I'm somehow better than anyone.



Again, I apologize for the confusion. I blame Al Gore for it.



Ryan

I heard somewhere that Al Gore invented confusion.

He is a master of it.

 

[DZLROKET]

Plus MY diesel running Bio has NONE of that nasty diesel pollution and it smells like tempura! so there!! (smile)



And yes ,at the risk of offending the anti green guys, I am one of those who feel that we need to take af the earth if we want the earth to continue to take care of us.

 

[Steve Graham]

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And idling a diesel consumes 4 times as much fuel as motoring down the road in the same vehicle???



When to turn off your engine : Yahoo! Green

IIRC a diesel at idle has a air fuel ratio of over 400:1, Not burning enough fuel to keep it's self warm. I think that the author of the article is full of dog squeeze.

 

[catoiler]

Plus MY diesel running Bio has NONE of that nasty diesel pollution and it smells like tempura! so there!! (smile)



And yes ,at the risk of offending the anti green guys, I am one of those who feel that we need to take af the earth if we want the earth to continue to take care of us.

Taking care of it is one thing,trying to push a bunch of BS off on people for pure greed is another. Besides you live right in the heart of BS central!

let me guess you also like boxer and fienstien.

 

[RJWEST]

Ncostello, Your evil



"Save the Earth",

 

[grasmo]

If its loud,stinks, or smokes, I gotta have it.

 

[DZLROKET]

Taking care of it is one thing,trying to push a bunch of BS off on people for pure greed is another. Besides you live right in the heart of BS central!

let me guess you also like boxer and fienstien.

Sorry wrong guess!

 

[Ncostello]

Correction to Original Post

Even I am prone to making mistakes. In the statement below, I didn't intend to say:



"Its amazing how efficient the diesel is... using more fuel under load than at idle. "



Rather the article gave the feeling that the diesel uses more fuel at idle than under load.



Again... not from my research... but rather the article.

 

[rbattelle]

For years I've thought the "Holy Grail" of the EPA is a legal way to ban all vehicles built before a certain date from being operated. The new CO2 regulation mandate might finally be the tool they can use.

It's slowly coming true. This month's Diesel Progress has a few articles about EPA-mandated retrofit of older engines in the construction, mining, and stationary power industry. How long before we're required to retrofit all our older light-duty vehicles?



The other day the EPA finished a "study" that "proved" that CO2 is a public health threat. This, coupled with the Supreme Court ruling that the EPA can regulate CO2 emissions, will inevitably lead to some form of taxation of CO2 emissions, and probably a mandate to retrofit or stop using older vehicles (my opinion). Remember - it's a public health threat now, just like lead, mercury, and so on.



Now think about this. According to the Department of Agriculture (link to Wikipedia reference... bottom of page), humans release roughly 900g of CO2 per day per person. Multiply that by 6 billion people on earth and you get 2. 2 billion tons of CO2 per year. Total CO2 emission from fossil fuel burning is only 8. 4 billion tons per year (link). How long will it be before someone draws the inevitable conclusion?



The EPA recently drafted a regulatory requirement for reporting all greenhouse gas emissions over 25000 tons per year. This includes light vehicles. For now, the 25000 ton limit means people who operate fewer than 4500 light vehicles per year don't fall under the regulation. Now that CO2 is a toxic substance - a danger to human health - how long before we're all required to report? How do you report the number of breaths you take? Will exercise be banned?



All of this is being "snuck in" under the collective nose of the populace, who don't directly feel the burden being laid on businesses. Once it's all in place for the large corporations, the road is paved for a gradual introduction to massive emissions penalties for the populace.



Ryan