DEF Quality and shelf life

[Bob4x4]

All fine and dandy until its off warranty and YOU HAVE TO PAY to fix it :-laf

You got that right,The tow truck guys are lovin it-not

 

[BIGNASTY]

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Maybe the sky is falling, so is YOURS A GROCERY GETTER?


If its such a good idea why have the lawyers get involved :-laf

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This type of system is NOT MEANT to be used SHORT HAUL. The fuel delivery trucks that companies own that run several short hauls of fuel to gas stations cant keep up with the cost of the 6K filters, the long (er) haul trucks aren't having anywhere near the problems.

My question is WHY is it that the wife's Audi hasn't had any problems? Maybe the Germans have it figured out?????

The most common Cummins DPF related symptoms are clogged and cracked DPF filters; high cleaning / replacement costs; lost income due to truck down time; excessive regeneration cycles; and reduced power / limp mode in PTO. These DPF problems are so common that Dodge/Cummins owners have filed a class action lawsuit which has yet to be settled.



http://towprofessional.com/2013/12/dont-get-clogged-up-diesel-particulate-filter/

 

[Newsa]

Maybe the sky is falling, so is YOURS A GROCERY GETTER?


If its such a good idea why have the lawyers get involved :-laf

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This type of system is NOT MEANT to be used SHORT HAUL. The fuel delivery trucks that companies own that run several short hauls of fuel to gas stations cant keep up with the cost of the 6K filters, the long (er) haul trucks aren't having anywhere near the problems.

My question is WHY is it that the wife's Audi hasn't had any problems? Maybe the Germans have it figured out?????

The most common Cummins DPF related symptoms are clogged and cracked DPF filters; high cleaning / replacement costs; lost income due to truck down time; excessive regeneration cycles; and reduced power / limp mode in PTO. These DPF problems are so common that Dodge/Cummins owners have filed a class action lawsuit which has yet to be settled.



http://towprofessional.com/2013/12/dont-get-clogged-up-diesel-particulate-filter/

100,000 miles in less than 2 years? GSBrockman hauls heavy & long.
Not a grocery-getter unless the store is on the interstate. Lol

 

[BIGNASTY]

100,000 miles in less than 2 years? GSBrockman hauls heavy & long.
Not a grocery-getter unless the store is on the interstate. Lol

Just saying if most are used like they are bought for they wont last.

Oh by the way I will try and be impressed with 100k in two years just a little later :-laf

 

[gsbrockman]

Maybe the sky is falling, so is YOURS A GROCERY GETTER?

You tell me...........you seem to have the answers to EVERYTHING else.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ram/3500/2014/gsbrockman/298756

in 17 months

 

[BIGNASTY]

Obviously reading is not your forte, seems like stats are thou, Im impressed with the pictures and all the numbers that mean ? I don't remember any of the stats on the 39 years of pushing rigs down the hwy. I spent the first 8 years as an O/O of a class 8 truck not some pickup want to be big rigger. In that time if I didn't put AT LEAST 160K a year on the truck BY MYSELF I felt as if I wasn't trying to make a living.

sorry if my observations of these new trucks and their short comings has ruffled some feathers, if yours is so much different with all the pretty pictures and numbers you have maybe you should write a book on how you do it and make enough to retire.

 

[Newsa]

Maybe the sky is falling, so is YOURS A GROCERY GETTER?


If its such a good idea why have the lawyers get involved :-laf

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This type of system is NOT MEANT to be used SHORT HAUL. The fuel delivery trucks that companies own that run several short hauls of fuel to gas stations cant keep up with the cost of the 6K filters, the long (er) haul trucks aren't having anywhere near the problems.

My question is WHY is it that the wife's Audi hasn't had any problems? Maybe the Germans have it figured out?????

The most common Cummins DPF related symptoms are clogged and cracked DPF filters; high cleaning / replacement costs; lost income due to truck down time; excessive regeneration cycles; and reduced power / limp mode in PTO. These DPF problems are so common that Dodge/Cummins owners have filed a class action lawsuit which has yet to be settled.



http://towprofessional.com/2013/12/dont-get-clogged-up-diesel-particulate-filter/

The article says it's the end users (truck operators) fault for using high sulfur fuel.

Chrysler/Cummins isn't responsible for brain damaged truck operators

 

[BIGNASTY]

Excuse me if they got REAL DIESEL fuel they must be fueling at the refinery, THATS THE ONLY PLACE I can get it and THATS not even legal but with the years that I hauled their fuel they take a chance every now and again, BECAUSE MY DODGE BURNS REAL DIESEL WITHOUT ANY FILTER PROBLEMS.

I hope that this isn't going to ruin your Sunday I have fell out of my chair TWICE laughing so hard at some of the comments YOU BIG STRAPPERS have made. I'm retired now going out for a Mule back ride in the Montana wilderness with my Grandson. Have yourself a nice day

Motor Safely

BIG

 

[Newsa]

Excuse me if they got REAL DIESEL fuel they must be fueling at the refinery, THATS THE ONLY PLACE I can get it and THATS not even legal but with the years that I hauled their fuel they take a chance every now and again, BECAUSE MY DODGE BURNS REAL DIESEL WITHOUT ANY FILTER PROBLEMS.

I hope that this isn't going to ruin your Sunday I have fell out of my chair TWICE laughing so hard at some of the comments YOU BIG STRAPPERS have made. I'm retired now going out for a Mule back ride in the Montana wilderness with my Grandson. Have yourself a nice day

Motor Safely

BIG

No ruffled feathers here. Nice sparring with you. No chicken (feathered friends) littles here.
Enjoy your mules.

 

[gsbrockman]

Obviously reading is not your forte, seems like stats are thou, Im impressed with the pictures and all the numbers that mean ? I don't remember any of the stats on the 39 years of pushing rigs down the hwy. I spent the first 8 years as an O/O of a class 8 truck not some pickup want to be big rigger. In that time if I didn't put AT LEAST 160K a year on the truck BY MYSELF I felt as if I wasn't trying to make a living.

I'm impressed with putting "AT LEAST 160k a year on the truck BY MYSELF" :-laf Sorry.....but times have changed. I can hotshot at my current rate and spend time at home with family AND earn a decent living.

Obviously reading is not your forte

Apparently (OBVIOUSLY?????) ----reading IS NOT YOUR forte, either. The article you quoted is from a publication dated December 15, 2013.......and the very trucks you are bashing (the 2013 & up 2500 / 3500 DEF pickups) were not even on the road at the time. There's a reason the DEF pickups are so much improved over the 2007.5 through 2012 trucks.....much better passive regens....active regens are hardly ever required, very little EGR, and the 2013 & up pickups are back up to a 15k oil change interval......the same as the 2003 through 2007 pickups. The link you posted has NOTHING to do with the trucks that are mentioned IN THIS THREAD (I'll refresh your memory of the thread title...."DEF Quality and shelf life"

sorry if my observations of these new trucks and their short comings has ruffled some feathers

Save your apologies for the mules :-laf No ruffled feathers here.......just sick & tired of non-owners of 2013 & up DEF equipped pickups (or 2007.5 through 2012 trucks for that matter) chiming in / contributing with complete and total MISINFORMATION.

if yours is so much different with all the pretty pictures and numbers you have maybe you should write a book on how you do it and make enough to retire.

Perhaps I'll do that................... on second thought.....I'll leave that up to you, since you appear to have an adequate "handle" on everything. :-laf

 

[HorseMan-AR]

Just thought I'd add something to this thread. My 2015 3500 seems to have a very accurate DEF gauge. Most have said it's not linear, but my gauge seems to be just that. It very slowly decreases or moves to empty over time...almost like my fuel gauge. I've refilled a few times in 5600 miles (towing Fiver for about 1500 miles of total mileage)...the gauge never really makes drastic moves. Over the past couple months, I've watched it and it slowly moves toward empty. Maybe RAM has made the gauge slightly more linear?

I like to run mine down to about a quarter tank, then refill. I do have 2.5 gallons stored in the house where it stays cool. Didn't see an expiration date on it. I got it on sale I think. Based on what I've read here and other places, it'll be fine as long as you store it properly.

 

[Newsa]

As for the high sulfur fuels. Burning lots of that causes acid rain which kills the forests I love too much.

I don't call that "Real Diesel"

 

[Cummins12V98]

Just thought I'd add something to this thread. My 2015 3500 seems to have a very accurate DEF gauge. Most have said it's not linear, but my gauge seems to be just that. It very slowly decreases or moves to empty over time...almost like my fuel gauge. I've refilled a few times in 5600 miles (towing Fiver for about 1500 miles of total mileage)...the gauge never really makes drastic moves. Over the past couple months, I've watched it and it slowly moves toward empty. Maybe RAM has made the gauge slightly more linear?

I like to run mine down to about a quarter tank, then refill. I do have 2.5 gallons stored in the house where it stays cool. Didn't see an expiration date on it. I got it on sale I think. Based on what I've read here and other places, it'll be fine as long as you store it properly.

Mine acts the same. Very slow moving.

 

[Newsa]

By nonlinear, let me further explain...

If my DEF tank is empty, and I put 2.5 gallons in it, when I turn on the truck within a minute the DEF gauge shoots up to almost full. (7/8 of a tank)

However, I know that my tank is not 7/8 full, I know it's only 1/2 full.

This is what we mean by nonlinear. It doesn't show accurately how much DEF is in the tank.

Yes the gauge moves slowly, but only starts moving when the tank is 1/2 full.

If I put another 2.5 gals in the tank, the gauge reads over full. And won't move at all for 2000-3000 miles.

Last month, my Def tank was empty, I put in 1 gal. And it showed almost half full when it was less than 1/4 full

 

[Larry Willard]

By nonlinear, let me further explain...

If my DEF tank is empty, and I put 2.5 gallons in it, when I turn on the truck within a minute the DEF gauge shoots up to almost full. (7/8 of a tank)

However, I know that my tank is not 7/8 full, I know it's only 1/2 full.

This is what we mean by nonlinear. It doesn't show accurately how much DEF is in the tank.

Yes the gauge moves slowly, but only starts moving when the tank is 1/2 full.

If I put another 2.5 gals in the tank, the gauge reads over full. And won't move at all for 2000-3000 miles.

Last month, my Def tank was empty, I put in 1 gal. And it showed almost half full when it was less than 1/4 full

Mine works exactly that way.

 

[JCleary]

Mine works exactly that way.

Mine too. When empty, 2.5 gallons reads 3/4 full. 5 gallons full. Doesn't move for a loooooooong time.

 

[DMorris]

Heck, I started using the Walmart brand DEF without issue.

Me too. The Walmart stuff is a couple bucks cheaper for the 2.5 gallon and it makes a nice waste oil container when empty. I have been using that for the last 20K miles with no issue.

 

[Cummins12V98]

A little side step here, has anyone cleaned out a DEF container and used it to carry diesel in it? I have a 5 gallon diesel container and it's a PITA to use!

 

[gsbrockman]

A little side step here, has anyone cleaned out a DEF container and used it to carry diesel in it? I have a 5 gallon diesel container and it's a PITA to use!

Are you referring to the weight of 5 gallons of diesel when initially dispensing???

 

[Cummins12V98]

HA no. I still am fit enough that is not the problem. It's the new containers are such a PITA to operate with all the "safety" BS. I thought the DEF container dispensed the DEF easily so I thought why not carry two DEF containers with Diesel in them.