Dell Computers Are Anti Gun !

[DRR-24V]

This E-Mail should wind you up





From: Jack Weigand [mailto:sales@jackweigand.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:38 PM



Subject: To all of my friends



I am writing this because I feel every Firearms owner should know this

story.

I placed an order for a Dell notebook computer on February 13 on line with Dell. I was given a tentative delivery date of February 21st. I was watching the order through the Dell on line tracking system; I also opted for the automatic email notification of when the machine was to be shipped.



Well, the 21st came and went, I am a Pistolsmith I know things

can happen. I made a phone call on the 25th, did a voice mail message for my salesman to get back to me and I was looking for the delivery date.



The 25th came and went with no callback. On the 26th I placed

another call this time to cancel the order. After a few hours I got a

call back, with this amazing reason for the delay. It seems someone in Dell had already canceled my order, when I asked why I was told Dell was afraid I was going to use the machine for illegal purposes.



When I asked why someone would think that I was told it was because of the name of my business "Weigand Combat Handguns Inc. ". Because I am involved in firearms I might be doing something illegal. Now keep in mind I was never called or informed of this decision the order was just canceled.



Many of you know me personally and know I run my business about as squeaky clean as possible. In addition being the President of the American Pistolsmiths Guild I am under additional scrutiny as to how I run my business, if I am not clean how can I be the President of an organization that promotes just that! I was informed by a Dell supervisor not long after all of this the reason I was refused was because of their post September 11th policy of screening buyers.



I would like to respectfully ask the firearms community to do the

following. If you intended to buy a Dell and because of this letter

you do not, email Dell and let them know why. Feel free to distribute this account to all you know in the Firearms community, I think they need to know.



I for one am sick and tired of people assuming just because we are involved with firearms that we are doing something illegal. I also do not believe Dell deserves our business if this is how they intend to treat us.



God Bless

Jack Weigand

President

American Pistolsmiths Guild Inc.

****************************************************

 

[b.j.oneill]

your where right that sure did get me wound up or just pi$$ed me off one. That is the most idiotic thing I have heard. Hope you get a better computer somewhere else

 

[Steve M]

I've been run out of places simply because I was on a Harley. I don't want to do business with these kind of geeks anyhow. I make good money and spend alot. I'll spend it where I'm welcome. There are too many people who will welcome you into their business or home to spend any effort or time trying to persuade those who don't.

My Compaqs and Hewlet Packards have been flawless.

 

[NVR FNSH]

Originally posted by Steve M

My Compaqs and Hewlet Packards have been flawless.

bite your tongue. the merger is a daily topic here at Agilent.



Brian

 

[Briar Hopper]

Jack Weigand is one of my favorite "quiet" heroes, I've long dreamed of having one or two of his handguns to call my own.

I ALMOST bought a dell instead of this new Sony laptop that I have now. Thank God I didn't. But I wonder what Sony's position would be on the gun control issue?

One has to wonder if that is Dell's corporate philosophy, or if it was simply one single misguided person within the company?

We are going to see more and more of this, from more and more companies. There's two fools born every minute, it's an uphill battle for those of us wise enough to see what is happening.

 

[KMC]

I checked and he posted his letter to rec. guns. Good for Him! Old S&W took a beating when word got around... .



Looks like Dell and IBM have been anti's for while. Found this post on rec. guns dated 1996:



"My husband is currently on a business trip in Austin, TX. Both IBM and Dell Computer have large notices posted at the entrances to their buildings, stating a NO GUN policy. Although I cannot verify this, my husband believes that this policy is throughout Texas, not just in Austin. This no-gun policy applies not only to employees, but anyone who can legally carry a concealed weapon in TX who may be visiting the site. Thought you'd like to know... does anyone know if IBM has made this their policy throughout the USA?



Any of you reading this message on your IBM computers... I hope you will write the company and complain! Time to look into getting a clone... "

--

Galia, the Dangerous Housewife

 

[RKelly]

To Jack,

I just posted the following on the Dell web-site, feedback area. This stuff gets my goat !

It's the god-damn media you know... . TV NEWS IS KILLING THIS COUNTRY!!!!! Read the new book "The News About The News" Ray

from my post to Dell.....

A compliment for Dell... I was going to buy my wife, a soon to be school teacher, a new Dell... Then I read the following. Judging Jack Weigand buy the business he is in is NO DIFFERENT then judging him by the color of his skin. You folks should be ashamed of yourselves, treating a fellow American like this. There's no excuse, You did it !

Jack's letter follows -

 

[DRR-24V]

I Know The Feeling !

Both AOL and AARP are so anti-gun it makes you sick. I quit AARP over it, and am trying to find a decent ISP to go to.

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

The funny part is that they used knives not guns. I bet they sell computers to Schrade, SOG, Stanley tool, and the like.



Are they gonna quit selling to Colt Firearms, Smith and Wesson Co, Ruger, and Winchester???



Anyone that stupid deserves to be broke.

 

[Shovelhead]

This is the same reason that I won't own a pair of Timberland boots.



Timberland was donating coupons for boots for the "gun buy-back" programs a few years ago.



I wonder how many "gang-bangers" turned in their guns?

I also wonder how many houses were broken into to provide "Homeys" with guns to turn in.

 

[KMC]

Check out the details on this at his web page. It appears that Dell has "apologized".



http://www.jackweigand.com/Dell.html

 

[Briar Hopper]

In Mr. Weigand's explanation of further communication he had with Dell , he states that they told him the cancellation was "triggered by the word {combat} in his letterhead"... .

Yeah, right like they actually have a computer program in place to screen such orders???? It was a left-wing knee-jerk reaction from some overly anal management geek, it's just that pure and simple.

The "Combat" in his business name is what stands out, it's very distinctive, goes well with his name, has a powerful ring to it. Weigand Custom Combat Handguns, Inc. Man, what a heckuva great business name. No bones about it. Who would buy a gun from a company called Weigand Politically Correct Target Plinkers, Inc. ? GreenPeace Pea-shooters, Inc ?

Hello, Dell? You just lost my business, as well as the business from my friends and family in this town. All, almost all, are NRA members, and often check in with me to ask "what's new".

 

[Redneck Toadstomper]

To Jack Wiegand,



Just today ordered a new Dell desktop with all the bells and whistles for wife to use in our business. This was going to replace yet another Dell we bought years ago. We bought a $4000. 00 desktop from Dell a little over 2 years ago for my use in landscape design. Just this evening, after reading your post, cancelled that same computer. The same salesman I have worked with the past week that got the order also got the cancellation and reason for it. He was not happy but understood why. Oo. Oo.



Gonna check with the cow in Dakota.



I'm not politically correct, I'm NRA all the way, and love my country. I do worry about my government a little moe all the time.

 

[The patriot]

Originally posted by khirzel

Gonna check with the cow in Dakota.

Dont bother. Read this:

http://www.pinkpistols.org/antigun.html



Oh FYI, I dont know how accurate this list is, but Cummins is on it!!

Eric

 

[mimprevento]

Dell Geeks

As a longtime shooter I am sad to be typing this on a Dell- Mr Weigand and his guns are legendary in the firearms community and I am saddened by his treatment. Rest assured as a law abiding citizen and consumer I will make my feelings known to Dell with a copy on my firms letterhead to Mr Weigand- forget about "re-booting" someone there needs to be booted!!!!!!:-{}

 

[joel]

Bad new everyone: Cummins is on that list!

Check out the Anti-Gun Coalition of America Page at: http://www.bitsnet.com/agca/corps.htm. It's also listed on the pinkpistol site if you scroll down to the companies/CEO section.



Let's see... . LeviStrauss, St. Louis Rams and Cards, Starbucks, Blockbuster, Disney (no surprise here), AFL-CIO (for all you union folks), ABA (for the lawyers), Netscape (anyone using this?), most celebs and news/media companies are just some of the names on this list.



Notably, Dell was NOT on the list... . Food for thought.

(Gateway is on the list)



By the way, looked at the pinkpistols front page and this is their tagline:

"Armed gays don't get bashed. " Interesting approach... .

 

[Steve M]

And thus spake Joel,

AFL-CIO (for all you union folks)





And for all you right wing Republican anti-union folks. The author writes...



In my opinion, it would appear, that the conservative, “Religious Right,” Republican, sector of the nation’s leadership. Is no more in favor of the 2nd Amendment, or an “Individual Right to a Self-defense,” than the, left leaning, socialistic, Democrats. Perhaps it is time, to start looking at, thinking about, and voting for the Libertarian Party’s candidates.



Let's not start pointing fingers and generalizing.



Conservative, gun owner, union member and Democrat.

 

[The patriot]

Steve M, of course youre allowed to think for yourself, but you know where youre money is going.

Eric

 

[Steve M]

Eric, All I can suggest is for you to boycott every company on the list and then your point will have been made. Anything short of that and you're just pointing a hypocritical finger.

 

[joel]

Geez, Steve, feeling self conscious about something?

I also pointed out the ABA for the lawyers, Netscape users - whatever. I wasn't making any indictments. Too bad you felt I was. Speaks volumes about your point of view, not to mention the extremely condescending way you attacked me with your, "... and thus spake Joel".



I think I'll boycott SteveM posts... .



(oh, and for the record, truth in advertising and all that, I'm not a union member or a union fan in general)