Did anyone watch the Dixie Dingbats last night?

[loncray]

What Natalie Maynes said, I don't really have a problem with that, nor with where she said it. I obviously don't agree with threatening her or her family - but if people want to not listen to their records anymore, that's perfectly fine with me. They indeed made their bed on this one - but didn't their latest record return to #1 on the charts AFTER the boycott? I think there's a lot of people reacting to the boycott by going out and buying their albums in sympathy. I'm not one of them, but that's because I simply don't listen to country music.

And I hadn't heard Bruce Springsteen was a conservative Republican - nor liberal Democrat.

 

[illflem]

Originally posted by Elite1

Illflem, I have never heard Bruce Springsteen described as a conservative republican. But, what is wrong with radio stations and networks, that listen to their customers and not play the Dixie Chicks. Should we take away their freedoms ? Or should they be able to decide what music they play?

The Dixie Chicks made their bed... .

Springsteen went on the road in support of Papa Bush back then.



You're right, radio stations should play what their listeners want but I have to wonder if it's really what the listeners want when the most of stations that banned the Dixie Chits are owned by two nationwide broadcasting networks.



After increasing sales and a sold out tour I have to wonder if the boycott and bashing only gave them free publicity. Heck, I never heard of them till they made their statements, if they weren't country it may have even inspired me to check out their tunes.

 

[RustyJC]

Originally posted by illflem

Heck, I never heard of them till they made their statements, if they weren't country it may have even inspired me to check out their tunes.

Bill,



Go ahead and check them out, because they aren't country!



Rusty

 

[Elite1]

illflem, The Dixie Chicks are kind of a mix between Country and soft rock. Soft rock with alot of fiddle. They made their biggest appearance to dat at halftime of the Super Bowl, in January... . There is no way they would have got that gig if the superbowl was tommorow. There record sales a down since their statements, not up. They may be still selling out concerts, but they were doing that before their statements and from what I hear, even though tickets are sold (usually 3 or 4 months in advance) there are many empty seats now as a protest!

 

[Champane Flight]

Credit

I don't think you give the American military enough credit if you think that the eight words spoken by Natalie on stage would sway them into doubting their commanding officers. Geez, I had Jane Fonda telling me to lay down my arms, go home, from a enemy radio station and laughed at it! Everybody around me laughed at it. Now that was treason, and she has never suffered from that action. So you have to excuse me if I cannot find Natalie and the girls guilty of treason.



Treasonous? No, not hardly. Just like the Chicks, our President has taken a position, now he has to face the heat to. And the people boycotting them are the same ones who haven't listened to much music anyway, too busy listening to Rush and the boys...

 

[Sled Puller]

BUSH:'04

Let Freedom Ring

 

[Shrimpy]

Hey Loncray, you guys (sore loser's of election 2000) fail to realize that the Supreme Court was simply upholding the Constitution by stepping in. Every election cycle, literally tens of thousands of votes are dismissed because of voteing irregularity (two votes, not completely punched, not penciled in dark enough) and nobody says a word. But let a dozen old f@rts cry fowl because of their inability to FOLLOW DIRECTIONS, and the whole voteing system is corrupt. The turning point for me was when they (Gore Camp) pushed like the devil to cancel the military votes. That act alone says VOLUMES about the ends that that side of the demoncrat party will go to achieve victory.



Game over, BUSH 04, take it to the bank... .....

 

[illflem]

Originally posted by Elite1

They may be still selling out concerts, but they were doing that before their statements and from what I hear, even though tickets are sold (usually 3 or 4 months in advance) there are many empty seats now as a protest!

Elite, better check your news sources, all the US seats are empty for their sold out tour, it doesn't start till next month. Sales of scalped tickets at up to three times the original price are soaring. http://www.livedaily.citysearch.com/news/4662.html



The Dixie Chicks latest album sales dropped 15% last week, but that was good compared to next five top selling albums by other artists whose sales dropped an average of 26%. The Grammy-winning disc actually climbed two spots to number four and remained number one on the country sales chart. Of course this can be attributed to the goosesteppers stocking up on discs for their next burning.

http://att.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11476,00.html



I wanted to see what they sound like and went to download something from WinMx, out of 2145 (and climbing) download sites only 6 were availible for download, the rest were being used. The 6 were 56k, I baled. Guess the music Nazis were blocking the web so no one would have to listen to them.

 

[Elite1]

Illflem, I checked my source... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/entertainment/main544077.shtml



"their hit song, TRAVELIN SOLDIER , was #1 at the time of their remark and tumbled completely off the charts after their comments. "



"Most of their shows in the upcoming U. S. tour were sold out BEFORE they made the comments... the shows that weren't sold out were nearly sold out 85-95%"



I'll bet there will be alot of empty seats at their concerts, in protest! Or better yet, hecklers and rotten tomatos!

 

[sdalton]

I never thought of that. I change my mind. I would go to one of their concerts. I would also bring an air horn with me, just for fun.

 

[Champane Flight]

Actually

Actually Jane had no effect on me, then or now. Our country dinging me around and lying to me did however. So in a very short period of time I learned to trust no one, especially the government.



It wouldn't have mattered if the candidate in question was Democratic or Republican, when your Brother and your campaign manager are in charge of deciding state (Electoral) and the vote is swung by that narrow of a margin, something is fishy. If Gore would have won and his Bro and Manager were in charge of this same state, I wonder if the Republicans would have cry ed foul? Thats funny... . They cry ed for eight years, so loud it was deafening.



Actually Ill, the Chicks are very talented young ladies. I have listened to some of their music and found the vocals, harmonies, musical content, and writing to be superb (though not to my musical taste). I think way too much is being made about this and the pro Bush Gestapo is not going to have much effect on their career. Talent always comes through.

 

[illflem]

Thought this was interesting



Where's the backlash? "For some celebrities, a protesting the war has turned into a good career move. "Before this I was a moderately well-known character actress," said anti war activist Janeane Garofalo, "Now I'm almost famous with more job offers than I can possibly fulfill. " Garofalo and other celebrities say they've been speaking from the heart - but dissent, it seems, is a pretty good career move. When conservative critics fire back, the backlash merely creates a sympathetic counter-backlash, galvanizes the left, the center and people who weren't political before. "



Fonda's career skyrocketed after her antics in Vietnam, and she never apologized for it. When her babble came over the radio when I was in Vietnam we just laughed at it, if today's troops can't do the same we're in a world of hurt.



When the silent majority hears folks raving about boycotting an artist just because of their political views they end up siding with free speech and a bad taste for the side screaming boycott. Total backfire, some of you are cutting your own throats.

 

[Shrimpy]

Another attempt by a sore loser to shift the FACTS of Florida... ... the ballot was designed and approved by the demon-cratic controlled county goverment. THEY designed, printed, and maintained the ballots, not his brother... .....



Back to the subject, why do celebrities think that the public WANTS to here their opinion. Did someone in England, over the earsplitting noise, ASK them for their opinion? If I want to give my opinion, I can go stand on the street corner and possibly get in a fist fight (if I said what the chks said). What makes their opinion more newsworthy than the average joe?



I expect the news shows to interview only those supporting the chks at their first few shows. These will be the same folks that will justify going because they support free speech, when it is really about dropping 50 bones for each ticket and feeling like an idiot for doing it... ... .

 

[loncray]

Why do celebrities give their opinions? Because they can. People do care what celebrities are wearing, doing, saying - whether or not that's RIGHT is another question. And singers have been making political songs for years and years - Three Blind Mice is supposedly a parody of British politicians from centuries ago. Songs for and against various govt. policies have been staples for many, many years. And it's newsworthy for the same reason that Britney Spears dating some guy is newsworthy. People do care.

Face it, the Dixie Chicks have just as much right to say what they said as everybody here has to voice our opinions in this venue - in fact, moreso since we have to follow more rules to be allowed to post here, and we've paid for the privilege. Had they said what they said in a concert in Baghdad with Saddam Hussein in attendance, THEN you can trot out charges of treason.

 

[RustyJC]

Originally posted by loncray

Face it, the Dixie Chicks have just as much right to say what they said as everybody here has to voice our opinions in this venue - in fact, moreso since we have to follow more rules to be allowed to post here, and we've paid for the privilege

Yes, they have every right to say what they wish, but in doing so they must understand that actions have consequences. If they choose to exercise their First Amendment rights, I also have the right to vote with my wallet by not purchasing their CD's and not attending their concerts. I also have the First Amendment right to petition my local radio station to refrain from playing their material - which I did and they did.



Rusty

 

[loncray]

Absolutely you do have that right! The thing is, though, that it doesn't seem as though (depending on who you believe) the boycott is causing any harm to the group. It's even possible that they are doing better - selling more albums and tickets - than they were prior to that concert in London. So the consequences of which you speak are NOT (again depending on who you believe) what the boycott intended.

 

[RustyJC]

Originally posted by loncray

So the consequences of which you speak are NOT (again depending on who you believe) what the boycott intended.

I don't have any control over anyone's actions but my own. I did what I thought was right in this situation. There's nothing I can do if others choose to reward them for their behavior - those that do so have to live with themselves just as I do.



Rusty

 

[loncray]

Originally posted by RustyJC

I don't have any control over anyone's actions but my own. I did what I thought was right in this situation. There's nothing I can do if others choose to reward them for their behavior - those that do so have to live with themselves just as I do.



Rusty

That's all any of us can do. I'm not planning on buying any of their albums or concert tickets, but that's just because it's not my kind of music.

 

[CWeidenkeller]

CF... . "pro-Bush Gestapo"?



Folks, can we have a moment of silence for CF? He's finally gone off the edge.....



Then again, maybe we need a "pro-Bush Gestapo" to counter the acts of "civil disobediance" endorsed by the "Anti-establishment Faction"



Seriously, who gives a rat's *** what these spoiled little pop country prima donnas have to say. Lots of liberals will like them even more just because they spoke out against GW. Folks that didn't like 'em or didn't know who they are will listen to them just because of that. Y'aint gonna change their minds, these are the same folks that think anything GW does is bad, no matter what it is. Same folks that protest any war that doesn't affect them personally. Same folks that would protest a war until the enemy knocks on their front door. Jack Nicholson summed it up very well in A Few Good Men - "You sleep under the blanket of the freedom I provide, and then criticize the way in which I provide it"



I don't like the Dixie ****, won't listen to 'em, buy their crap, or even allow it in my house, but that's my decision. What you do is your own business. Is my position on this gonna change anybody else's opinion of them? Don't know, don't care. If the Dxiie ***** disappeared tomorrow, someone else would take their place. There's plenty of liberal loudmouths in entertainment that are just begging for a place to be heard. Look at that ******* Michael Moore. "Nuff said.



I guess I'll just have to turn up the Hank Williams III stuff a little louder

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