Diesel emissions warning

[brucejohnson]

... Pants in San Diego were hardly needed 10 months of the year.

OHP-P-P-F-F. You have led my imagination to places unanticipated! Did P-p-porky P-p-pig live nearby???
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And the "crack-down" continues...
Three Inland Northwest diesel truck companies agree to pay EPA penalties for selling prohibited emission products
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/mar/05/three-inland-northwest-diesel-truck-companies-agre/

 

[BIGNASTY]

HA HA HA HA Obviously haven't been to Indiana the entire state is like a RUN-WHAT-YA-BRUNG car show

 

[Timd32]

I'm not sure on the $50k part but they have been doing pop up roadside check points for many years.

Here is what I found on the state web site.

If you fail a roadside smoke emission inspection conducted by MVC in conjunction with the New Jersey State Police, you will be subjected to the following penalties: $700 for the first offense (reduced to $150 if paid within 45 days and with proof of repairs) $1300 for the second offense (reduced to $500 if paid within 45 days and with proof of repairs)

We do have pretty strict Air Permits that go as high as $50k, those are for stationary gen sets and the sort. Emergency power and running on Air Quality days. You have to work pretty hard to get up to the $50k level, I can't find anything that high for vehicles in a bunch of stuff I looked up.

NJ DOT and the NJSP has had mobile inspections for trucks for more then 20 years, they use a few 24' trailers all set up with mobile scales and the sort, they recently added the emissions element.

Here is the new program that they most likely were testing out prior to full roll out...

https://www.state.nj.us/mvc/inspection/dieselemission.htm

We are not a truck friendly state, we closed all rest area bathrooms many years ago, we have almost no parking for big trucks along I-80 and I-78 from PA to NYC.

The north to south NJ Turnpike has rest stops for trucks, but it's a pretty sad state for trucking.

Years ago they enacted a ban on big trucks on a bunch of state roads except local delivery. It was a complete cluster at the time. That lasted only a few weeks then they went with a 102 wide ban and doubles all have to run specific routes.

It's a nice state to live in, but you do have to deal with quite a bit of BS.

In Jan 2020 Forbes released its 14th annual "Best States For Business" ranking. NJ was #39. No surprise there.

I can go on, but you get the point.

 

[Wayne M.]

Wow, Tim! Have you seen them out and about?

 

[Timd32]

Yep they set up on 31N in Glen Gardner all the time few miles north of Clinton, NJ, it's a go between for trucks to bypass the NJ RT 78 and PA RT 78 scales.

So it's easy picking.

The emmissions part is new but the mobile inspections is not.

 

[Timd32]

They can pretty much impound your vehicle for all sorts of reasons and force it to be towed, still can't find that list but there are all sort of stuff on the "emissions" part.

https://www.state.nj.us/dep/bmvim/bmvim_hddvip.htm

ROADSIDE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM
All HDDVs, New Jersey registered or out of state, are subject to random roadside inspections. Teams of MVC inspectors and State Police monitor a network of inspection sites that cover the entire state. The inspection sites are selected to provide maximum safety for the motoring public, the truck drivers, and the inspection team. The roadside inspection utilizes the snap-acceleration test, one of three test methods adopted by NJDEP. Penalties, in the form of fines, are issued for exceeding the emission standards, and for failing to have the annual inspection performed.


The fines are still showing up as posted above.

PENALTIES

Violations are placed upon owner or lessee, not the operator.
The fine for a first offense is $700, reducible to $150, with proof of repair.


For second and subsequent offenses the fine is $1300, reducible to $500 with proof of repair.


Failure to comply with the annual inspection requirement carries a fine of $500.

 

[Signal73]

I’d slap a Hemi badge on the side of my truck.

 

[EDankievitch]

You’d need to change out that 4” stack with a smaller one like the Hemi uses also

 

[Signal73]

The 6.4 looks to use a fair size tailpipe

 

[mfurrh55]

From behind with dual exhaust mine probably looks like a gasser

 

[Capt. Methane]

Unfortunately, you pay taxes to make it so you have to respect their authority...

let that sink in for a bit.

Dang, all of this is going to make my 1st Gen more pricey to find parts for!

Nice not having a converter or electronic crap, no twitchy wastegate and especially no Tomcat Piss to deal with...and yeah, at full power under load a fair bit of smoke is to be expected-not rolling coal by any means but the old school trucks make a little soot under load.

 

[Joe Mc]

Hey guys, just read thru all this and a question comes to mind related to my truck/situation. A bit of info about my truck first - see signature for mods only thing not listed is no muffler 4" pipe from turbo outlet to tailpipe. Recently I was able to save the $185-ish annual registration fee "forever" by getting classic registration plates = I never have to pay an annual renewal fee. That being said, I live in Levittown PA and go over Burlington Bristol Bridge for fuel (typically $.45 to $.55 per gallon less) and have been doing this since I bought the truck in May 01.

So my question is: I read above about "deleted" items and all the fines when/if pulled over and inspected. Does the deleted mentioned refer to only newer (than mine) trucks originally equipped with emission control systems?

Thanks

 

[EDankievitch]

Hey guys, just read thru all this and a question comes to mind related to my truck/situation. A bit of info about my truck first - see signature for mods only thing not listed is no muffler 4" pipe from turbo outlet to tailpipe. Recently I was able to save the $185-ish annual registration fee "forever" by getting classic registration plates = I never have to pay an annual renewal fee. That being said, I live in Levittown PA and go over Burlington Bristol Bridge for fuel (typically $.45 to $.55 per gallon less) and have been doing this since I bought the truck in May 01.

So my question is: I read above about "deleted" items and all the fines when/if pulled over and inspected. Does the deleted mentioned refer to only newer (than mine) trucks originally equipped with emission control systems?

Thanks

I think you’re ok the 01’s didn’t have much emission stuff on them. Later trucks , 07 and newer another story.

 

[jgillott]

Hey guys, just read thru all this and a question comes to mind related to my truck/situation. A bit of info about my truck first - see signature for mods only thing not listed is no muffler 4" pipe from turbo outlet to tailpipe. Recently I was able to save the $185-ish annual registration fee "forever" by getting classic registration plates = I never have to pay an annual renewal fee. That being said, I live in Levittown PA and go over Burlington Bristol Bridge for fuel (typically $.45 to $.55 per gallon less) and have been doing this since I bought the truck in May 01.

So my question is: I read above about "deleted" items and all the fines when/if pulled over and inspected. Does the deleted mentioned refer to only newer (than mine) trucks originally equipped with emission control systems?

Thanks

You don't still tow or haul with your truck do you?

 

[DavidC]

I remember one of the times here in the Phnx. area the guy walking the side of the truck with a wheel mounted mirror. I asked him what he was doing and he replied he was looking for the cat on my 99. I told him good luck with that and if he finds it to let me know. I then told him 99 did not have one. He walked away scratching his head.

 

[jgillott]

I remember one of the times here in the Phnx. area the guy walking the side of the truck with a wheel mounted mirror. I asked him what he was doing and he replied he was looking for the cat on my 99. I told him good luck with that and if he finds it to let me know. I then told him 99 did not have one. He walked away scratching his head.

When we are doing PA state inspections at the garage, we are required to go through a checklist of emission equipment to satisfy the "visual emission inspection" section of the inspection requirements, even in counties that do not require separate emissions. The book that the state provides is as big as an old yellow pages and lists everything from PCV, to EGR for every vehicle out there. It still amazes me the number of people that think that the garage is going to look the other way and pass one with missing equipment.

 

[KATOOM]

So my question is: I read above about "deleted" items and all the fines when/if pulled over and inspected. Does the deleted mentioned refer to only newer (than mine) trucks originally equipped with emission control systems?

Yes...they're talking about trucks with particulate filters and EGR valves.

I think you’re ok the 01’s didn’t have much emission stuff on them. Later trucks , 07 and newer another story.

The only emissions component on the 94-98 12 valve was a catalytic converter.
The 98.5-2002 24 valve came with ZERO emission components. The only thing a smog station is supposed to care about when I smog my truck is if I've changed any mechanical engine components (turbo, injectors, etc), and if there's any electronic tuners connected. Other than that, I can legally change my intake and exhaust since those components were not part of any emissions compliance.

 

[JR]

Classic plates must have a different meaning in PA. In Ohio the vehicle must be 25 yrs old and only be driven to and from car shows and similar events not to exceed a certain mileage annually.

 

[BigPapa]

Classic plates must have a different meaning in PA. In Ohio the vehicle must be 25 yrs old and only be driven to and from car shows and similar events not to exceed a certain mileage annually.

Same in TN.

 

[jgillott]

Classic plates must have a different meaning in PA. In Ohio the vehicle must be 25 yrs old and only be driven to and from car shows and similar events not to exceed a certain mileage annually.

It is similar here. We have 2 different plates available, Classic (15 years) and Antique (25 years). There are small difference between the two. But, both are limited use, no daily transportation use, and can't be used to transport cargo, etc. I have PA Antique plates on my Square Body.

Here is the PA fact sheet on the Classic and Antique plates.

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV Fact Sheets/fs-ant.pdf