Diesel & Gas Prices Shooting through the roof again!

[FATCAT]

Will someone just explain why Diesel is $. 20 to $. 30 a gallon MORE than Super Unleaded. And its not just a "winter" thing. It is all year now. I understand the price of fuel goes up and down and am not complaining about the $2. 61/gal/diesel I'm paying now ... its just the huge difference between gas & diesel.



I just remember not too many years ago that diesel was ALWAYS cheaper than regular unleaded in the summer months ... that is not true any more, why?

 

[HRDROKN]

Will someone just explain why Diesel is $. 20 to $. 30 a gallon MORE than Super Unleaded. And its not just a "winter" thing.

"Part" of the problem is that the EPA/CARB mandating lower sulfur... the refineries have spent huge dollars adding processes and changing processes to meet the regulations. And we get to pay for it!!!

 

[WStrmiska]

Bought a 1985 Nissan 5 speed pickup and parked the Diesel in the garage, will use the Dodge when I trailer my horses to the mountains. I'm tired of paying the sob oil companys. Thats the only way I know how to get back at them. :-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[SHobbs]

As far as Cummins stating that they accept B5 which I believe they increased that to B20 and nothing more is crap. If the bio meets all the same specs as #2 what can they say? There is a law to protect you (can't remember the name) and they would have to prove the fuel caused any problems if any. How can they say that a fuel that offers twice the lubrication as #2 is not accepted? Afterall they have seen the carnage caused by the lack of lubrication.



As far as I am concerned to heck with them and OPEC. If you get the opportunity to run bio, do it. Send a message to the oil barons that them and their obscene profits all the while raping consumers at the pump is ridiculous and that you will not support it. I have been getting B100 for about $2. 40/gal which is at times the same or higher than #2. I don't mind paying more since my money stays here at home and provides a growing industry for our nations farmers who need the money more than OPEC.

 

[hammersley]

Their Oil????????????

"The oil is the oil companies property. " That's for the most Part largely BS! How much oil do these freaking CROOKS get that is OUR OIL???? I mean from FEDERAL PROPERTY - can you say the CONTINENTAL SHELF---Western Federal Lands - Alaska - This isn't their FREAKING OIL BUBB!!! It's Ours-Oh and I see the other day that they had these lying bast%$DS testifying and they had no idea how the profits were so high - well I can explain it - Just like in Mark 6:41 when Mark records the story of Jesus feeding the multitudes with 5 loves and two fish ----------- IT'S A MIRACLE!!!! I for one - like some more here - are feed up with this - we need to NATIONALIZE these companies- This is pure proof of Why CAPITALISM is not always the best- I mean they have no concern for you at all. But some of the KOOL AID crowd here - well they must be working for these crooks. Man are they being made fools of and don't even see it. I pity them... ... .

 

[john3976]

No one minds the oil company's making a FAIR profit, it is all these RECORD profits they have been raking in and this is with United States demand being down from past years.



So they are selling less to US consumers yet they are breaking every profit record each quarter, that my friends is PRICE GOUGING!

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

The problem is that when Crude was $40 a barrel we payed $1. 25-$1. 50/gal for diesel and we were 10-15/gal less than gasoline... it's cheaper to make diesel than gas.



Now oil is ~$60/barrell (50% more than before) and we're paying $2. 50-$3. 00/gal.



~$. 40/gal is taxes so we were paying~$1 for the fuel at $40/bbl now we pay over $2/gal at $60/bbl... . WHY? and to add insult to injury diesel is still more than super unleaded instead of less than regular.



Truckers are going out of business. their support industries are hurting, car sales are down (they just closed a chevy plant in OK). The effects are far reaching. When 2000 factory workers loose their jobs 3-6000 others are effected if not eliminated. Those folks aren't buying cars, realestate, appliances, etc. .



The economy cannot withstand this fleecing. I don't want the gov't to step in but fuel is a STRATEGIC commodity that effects every facet of our economy. The oil companies WILL create a depression even in the midst of our meager economic growth over the last few months.



Something has to be done. the question is what should it be.

 

[RGardner]

No the truth is that fuel tax is per gallon not a percentage. So as the price rises the governments make less percentage wise on fuel. I agree that every company has a right to a profit but when we get fewer and fewer big companies the possibility of collusion increases greatly. It is a fact that several big oil companies have already been sued and lost over cheating the royalty owners on payments due to them on the oil or gas that is produced so why is it so far fetched to think that they might not be as competitive on their prices as they could be? Supply and demand works when you have a competitive economy not when you have a defacto monopoly.

 

[SHobbs]

One other thing for people to remember is to stop electing career politicians. I know that at times there isn't much choice out there but I always vote for the best independent I can. I will not cast another vote for a Rep. or Dem. no matter what. Everyone keeps putting these people in office then after they get in there they wonder what happened to all their promises. Well duh, they got voted in and now it's time to get down to fleecing the very people that put them there.



Another thing is that is way to much money in politics and the opportunity for someone no matter how good a person they are is just too great. Changes need to be made and it's time for the voters in this country to finally start putting the right ones in office. Why not give an independent a chance, honestly do you think they could do any worse. They can't screw it up any more than it allready is.

 

[Spooled-up]

Won't expect those educated in a government schools to know the difference.

I was educated in a government school and I know the difference!

 

[Miner49er]

Hey guys. . ya got to read an article that was in the Washington Post last June. CNN did a take off on it this morning. It was an article on Brazil and what they have accomplished growing "seas of sugar cane... "

We, the middle class america, became too educated and aquired too much wealth to the point that it put a scare into the upper class ( big business & goverment). What we now are experiencing is only the "tip... "

 

[TSpecht]

Part of the problem, but nobody wants to hear it, is you get about 45% gasoline and about 22. 5% diesel from a barrel of oil. Check out this link http://www.eia. doe.gov/neic/infosheets/crudeproduction.htmAnother part of the problem happens to be the tighter environmental regulations. While I agree the changes they've made in diesel fuel haven't given us any advantages or improvements in mileage or engine longevity, the environmental nuts have decreed we must clean it up, therefore private industry does not get a choice in the matter, and must comply with the regulations. Who do you think ultimately eats the cost for such "improvements"? If you said "Consumers", buy yourself a cigar, you're a winner. The Government is part of the problem already. They tax fuel excessively, they decree certain specifications that must be met, and so forth. As bad as it may be now, it will end up worse if the Government gets involved.

Anybody remember what happened in the 80's and 90's when the fuel company profits dropped? Anyone? Beuller? Well here's what happened in a nutshell: Refineries closed, wells were capped, and it more or less set us up for the situation we're in now, which is not being able to keep up with demand as effectively as should be possible. So basically if the Government caps the prices, consumers will consume more (I know I'll drive a lot more, at $1. 50/gallon than I will at $2. 50/gallon). If you can't see where I'm going with that, there may not be hope. Combine that with the fact it's unlikely to push new refineries past both the NIMBY idiots and the environmental extremist idiots, and the situation isn't all that likely to improve very quickly. That's just the harsh reality of things IMO. Above all keep in mind the only thing the Government is good at is red tape, and you *will* be paying for their fuel industry services you want, probably more at the pump and more in your income taxes, etc. There is no free lunch unfortunately.

 

[GRichins]

one thing we all have to remember is that big oil has bought and paid for is our good people in washingtom

 

[EEdmondson]

one thing we all have to remember is that big oil has bought and paid for is our good people in washingtom

Amen!!! Until political contributions and lobbyists are restricted to "we the people", we will continue to have the best government that business can buy.



In other words, only citizens should be able to contribute to politicians.

 

[TSpecht]

Remember, a big chunk of the problem is the combination of lobbyists from the environmental movement and the oil industry, and everybody else. Perhaps we just need to do away with lobbyists and get our representatives listening to what "We the People" want again. Take any compensation from anybody at all and get thrown in jail, or at least removed from office, of course we'll never see that...

 

[biggy238]

I thought they passed a bill syaing that lobbyist had to wait an extended period before bring up an issue... I thought it was going to be 2 yrs. .

 

[y-knot]

You haven't seen anything yet, just wait till the new diesel hits the stations latter this year. The so called industry has reported spending 60 billion dollars just to get everything ready to convert to the ultra low sulfur diesel. And although they Will not come right out and say what the surcharge will be per gallon of diesel fuel, most analyst feel we will be paying somewhere between . 15 and . 20 more fro a gallon of diesel fuel. Which depending on how high the diesel continues to go, will put it very close to three dollar a gallon in some places. Also many believe the reason the diesel fuel is and has been so high lately, is to help start paying back the industry for the money they had to invest. Since there is really no one that would go up against the diesel suppliers and help control the cost, we are just stuck with the bill.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Gas went up but diesel stayed the same at the station I fill up at.

 

[DonTX]

It is my opinion, and has been born out in the past, that diesel fuel price FOLLOWS gasoline. Down here in the Rio Grande Valley, while diesel was following gasoline DOWN, gasoline started back up again! For the first time in quite a while, today many stations had diesel and gasoline at the same price, $2. 43 per gal. Diesel has not changed for some time, but gasoline has gone from $1. 89 to $2. 43 in a BIG hurry.

 

[ringneck]

i thank your right ringneck