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I saw diesel this moring for $299/gal in Gainesville, GA. The same station had regular for $1. 69. Will diesel fuel ever be in line with gasoline again?



Looking for REAL economic answers... not just "greedy *******" stuff.



The reason I ask is because I've been wanting to trade my 6. 0 liter suburban for a mega-cab but I'm starting to re-think this scenario since the diesel advantage will almost never overcome the price discrepancy. I towed my '88 GMC Jimmy up to IN with the sub. I got 8 mpg overall and I could barley keep the load at 70mph on the flats. In the mountains and in the cities I pulled down into 3rd and kept it at about 60 mph. It's a 700 mile trip so I burned 87. 5 gallons. At 1. 69/gal it cost me $148. To equal that with diesel costing about $0. 90 more per gallon, I'd have to get 12. 3 mpg. That's barely doable with a load like that; even with the cummins. So aside from having "plenty of power" and the "macheesmo" of having a diesel, what is the advantage. I used to have one, and I loved it but can I justify buying another one?
 
Ereynolds,

I wouldnt expect diesel to ever get to par with gasoline again.

First of all, have you noticed how oil shoots up every time the stock market gets a little crazy and moves up a couple of points ? If/when the economy starts to come back, oil is going to go crazy (yes, thanks to Hugo, Vlad, Iran, the Saudi's etc, and mostly because of speculation).



Second, diesel is frowned upon by those on the left (who are in power) in this country. So, even though the economy runs on diesel, there really isnt any political will to bring the cost of diesel down. For an example of the crazy's have you seen the recent news story that the EPA wants to tax dairy farmers because their cows cause greenhouse gases by belching and farting ?



Third, now that our diesel meets european standards, they find it more profitable to ship our diesel over there, thus reducing supply here in the US.



So, if your justification for buying another diesel is economy, I would just stick with the suburban (unless you really need a pickup truck).



Just my observation

TRat
 
I saw diesel this moring for $299/gal in Gainesville, GA. The same station had regular for $1. 69. Will diesel fuel ever be in line with gasoline again?

Looking for REAL economic answers... not just "greedy *******" stuff.



The reason I ask is because I've been wanting to trade my 6. 0 liter suburban for a mega-cab but I'm starting to re-think this scenario since the diesel advantage will almost never overcome the price discrepancy. I towed my '88 GMC Jimmy up to IN with the sub. I got 8 mpg overall and I could barley keep the load at 70mph on the flats. In the mountains and in the cities I pulled down into 3rd and kept it at about 60 mph. It's a 700 mile trip so I burned 87. 5 gallons. At 1. 69/gal it cost me $148. To equal that with diesel costing about $0. 90 more per gallon, I'd have to get 12. 3 mpg. That's barely doable with a load like that; even with the cummins. So aside from having "plenty of power" and the "macheesmo" of having a diesel, what is the advantage. I used to have one, and I loved it but can I justify buying another one?









I believe diesel will get back in line with gasoline in time when enough people get fed up with the ever increasing price difference and start writing to their Congressmen and Senators. I know what the expert are saying, that diesel is refined more then gasoline and that the Ultra Low Sulfur is another reason for the big difference. I think it's all BS.
 
Grizzly,

I sure hope you're right. But a lot of people have been complaining and writing to their senators for a few years. But, nothing changes. I think that the community that uses diesel is pretty small, and doesnt have a lot of political influence. And, I think there are a lot of people that would just as soon have diesel outlawed altogether (my wife is one). That where the political power is.



As far as the actual cost to refine diesel being more than that of gas, I just dont buy that. At least not to where it makes diesel, at some times, almost a dollar more than gas. I heard from an UNreliable source that diesel is STILL less expensive to refine than gas. But, they can say the "new improved diesel with refined ingrediants found only in the marshes of outer afgonistosha" makes it much more valuable to us, the consumer (just like they do with toothpaste)
 
In the last week our diesel finally dropped to the lowest price since Hurricane Katrina. $2. 87 was the cheapest in the last 3. 5 years until lately. I saw $2. 65 today.

For whatever reason diesel prices have really taken a dive in California & AZ. Here's how some of the western states stack up according to AAA:

Washington 2. 649
Oregon - 2. 636
Idaho - 2. 602
Nevada - 2. 451
Utah - 2. 464
California - 2. 532
Arizona - 2. 376 (cheapest in the nation, has that ever happened before??)
Montana - 2. 536
 
AAA must be asleep at the wheel, A local truck stop is at 2. 15 for diesel. Arco's around here are usually the lowest, gas is 1. 59 and diesel is 2. 17.



Sam
 
In the last week our diesel finally dropped to the lowest price since Hurricane Katrina. $2. 87 was the cheapest in the last 3. 5 years until lately. I saw $2. 65 today.



For whatever reason diesel prices have really taken a dive in California & AZ. Here's how some of the western states stack up according to AAA:



Washington 2. 649

Oregon - 2. 636

Idaho - 2. 602

Nevada - 2. 451

Utah - 2. 464

California - 2. 532

Arizona - 2. 376 (cheapest in the nation, has that ever happened before??)

Montana - 2. 536







I've searched AAA till I'm blue in the face and I can not find anything where they give diesel prices for Western states. Can you post the web site so that I can compare our state to the other States. Fuel prices in New Mexico and Albuquerque are about as low as anywhere. Several stations in Albuquerque are selling diesel for $2. 09 and one station a few blocks from my house is selling it for $2. 08. Regular gasoline is $1. 45 at several stations around town.
 
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