Attention: TDR Forum Junkies I too love my CTD. I really dislike Toyota's. But to say that the fit and finish or over-all reliability of a Dodge, Ford or Chevy is as good as or better than a Honda or Toyota is crazy talk. You know the "I'd rather push my xxxx than drive your yyyy".
I have owned Toyota's, Ford's, Dodge's, Volkswagon's, and even an Acura. I LOVE my CTD but the fit and finish isn't even in the same ZIP code of the Acura. Maybe parts do cost more (for example ball joints) but the difference is in the quality. How many Toyota trucks with 5k miles have to replace ball joints? I am not talking about the "I have a buddy... " story. I am talking about in the same quantity of what we have seen just on this message board.
You can say what you want about Toyota, but I have seen them used around the globe (ie other countries) in EXTREMELY heavy duty applications such as mining and other industrial operations and guess what? They hold up extremely well. We got guys using CTD's as daily drivers and they are experiencing failed ball joints and lift pumps?? I had Ford Superduty with only 19k miles on it and it was missing 3 of the 4 bolts that hold the turbo on the engine! The result, the turbo got fried and I had to replace it. Thankfully it was under warranty.
My 01' CTD had a rattle under that dash (with only 11k miles on it) that was enough to bring a grown man to tears. My friend with a 1986 Celica with over 170k miles and not a single rattle. There's a "my buddy" story for you.
No doubt, everybody has lemons, my 1990 Tercel was one of them. But come on!! Personally I find it disgusting that my truck was built in Mexico where as my Acura was built in America. If you want to know one of the reasons that Honda's cost more its in part (please note I said PART before you flame me) due to the fact that the auto workers union adds extra costs to a vehicle that Dodge doesn't have to deal with in Mexico.
I own a CTD because I love the Cummins and I like the extra room it affords over some other trucks. I also chose the Dodge because of some bad luck I had with Ford. If Honda ever offered a full size truck with a diesel I would darn sure give it a hard look. And that's a GOOD thing because it that attitude that keeps Detroit honest and improving.
If everybody said "I will NEVER own a Japanese vehicle" then we would all still be driving the same crap that Detroit pushed out in the 70's. What we are talking about is overall or average quality, not just extreme stories from a buddy. Everybody has a story. I guess Consumer Reports and JD Power are just members of a conspiracy and are being controlled by the Japanese.
Huskerman
I have owned Toyota's, Ford's, Dodge's, Volkswagon's, and even an Acura. I LOVE my CTD but the fit and finish isn't even in the same ZIP code of the Acura. Maybe parts do cost more (for example ball joints) but the difference is in the quality. How many Toyota trucks with 5k miles have to replace ball joints? I am not talking about the "I have a buddy... " story. I am talking about in the same quantity of what we have seen just on this message board.
You can say what you want about Toyota, but I have seen them used around the globe (ie other countries) in EXTREMELY heavy duty applications such as mining and other industrial operations and guess what? They hold up extremely well. We got guys using CTD's as daily drivers and they are experiencing failed ball joints and lift pumps?? I had Ford Superduty with only 19k miles on it and it was missing 3 of the 4 bolts that hold the turbo on the engine! The result, the turbo got fried and I had to replace it. Thankfully it was under warranty.
My 01' CTD had a rattle under that dash (with only 11k miles on it) that was enough to bring a grown man to tears. My friend with a 1986 Celica with over 170k miles and not a single rattle. There's a "my buddy" story for you.
No doubt, everybody has lemons, my 1990 Tercel was one of them. But come on!! Personally I find it disgusting that my truck was built in Mexico where as my Acura was built in America. If you want to know one of the reasons that Honda's cost more its in part (please note I said PART before you flame me) due to the fact that the auto workers union adds extra costs to a vehicle that Dodge doesn't have to deal with in Mexico.
I own a CTD because I love the Cummins and I like the extra room it affords over some other trucks. I also chose the Dodge because of some bad luck I had with Ford. If Honda ever offered a full size truck with a diesel I would darn sure give it a hard look. And that's a GOOD thing because it that attitude that keeps Detroit honest and improving.
If everybody said "I will NEVER own a Japanese vehicle" then we would all still be driving the same crap that Detroit pushed out in the 70's. What we are talking about is overall or average quality, not just extreme stories from a buddy. Everybody has a story. I guess Consumer Reports and JD Power are just members of a conspiracy and are being controlled by the Japanese.
Huskerman
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