drain plug

[Hammer]

Ok so I have a question here for you all on these drains...



How many of you had compromised oil pans which led you to these drain plugs?. What I mean by that is a oil pan which would not seal up when the drain plug was reinserted,no matter what trick you tried?. On my 12valver after the engine work was done at EEP the oil was changed and the plug reinstalled. The drain plug was very tight when it was removed and when we replaced it and refilled the oil,it has been dripping ever since.



The drain plug(factory)has been changed out with a new Mopar and Cummins plug,sealing gaskets have been tried(copper,rubber and plastic)and EEP went as far as to make sure the pan was flat at the sealing point by some old fashioned ingunity. I was thinking of trying one of these myself before I go back out to have the pan changed to the chrome one. The mess in the driveway is driving me nuts,let alone wiping down the underside all the time. I have checked the drain plug area on the pan and see no cracks or areas compromised enough to lead me to believe the pan is shot. I rather save the new chrome pan for my new bullet but if its pressed into service sooner,then so be it.



Any thoughts??... ... . Andy

 

[steved]

Ok so I have a question here for you all on these drains...



How many of you had compromised oil pans which led you to these drain plugs?. What I mean by that is a oil pan which would not seal up when the drain plug was reinserted,no matter what trick you tried?. On my 12valver after the engine work was done at EEP the oil was changed and the plug reinstalled. The drain plug was very tight when it was removed and when we replaced it and refilled the oil,it has been dripping ever since.



The drain plug(factory)has been changed out with a new Mopar and Cummins plug,sealing gaskets have been tried(copper,rubber and plastic)and EEP went as far as to make sure the pan was flat at the sealing point by some old fashioned ingunity. I was thinking of trying one of these myself before I go back out to have the pan changed to the chrome one. The mess in the driveway is driving me nuts,let alone wiping down the underside all the time. I have checked the drain plug area on the pan and see no cracks or areas compromised enough to lead me to believe the pan is shot. I rather save the new chrome pan for my new bullet but if its pressed into service sooner,then so be it.



Any thoughts??... ... . Andy

My dad had his plug crack, that was the reason I bought him the Fumoto in the first place...



Almost sounds like the weld around the plug's bung in the pan is cracked... oil is a funny thing, it WILL find and pass through cracks that water sometimes won't... With all the attempts to cure it you have done, that would be my guess... it isn't the drain plug that is faulty, but the piece the drain plug screws into (and further, the entire pan)...





steved

 

[UP N MTNS]

Thanks to this thread my leaking drain plug problem is now fixed I went with this one from Geno's:

http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FTP-FG7B



Thanks for the info guys.





Just and FYI mine is no where near the axle/housing... Maybe and issue on the newer trucks(03+)??? but not on mine. If something "grabs" it I've got much bigger problems to worry about...

 

[BTowler]

Actually, it is pretty vulnerable since the bottom of the "finger touvh" valve lines up with the bottom of the front axle tube...

Is your truck dropped?????? Or do you have the "super secret extra severe duty 25 quart oil pan"? :-laf

 

[staarma]

I've got the Fumoto with nipple on my oil pan. What a cinch and no mess.



There must be some heavy duty extreme offroaders here. I live in MT where I hunt, fish, camp and drag ATV's and snowmobiles into the mountains and woods 12 months a year. I've never encountered any terrain where I had to drop my front end over somthing at such an angle as to have it go right behind the axle tube and into the oil pan. That's serious right there. Dang.

 

[AMassaro]

I don't like the fact that those quick drain plugs can be opened so easily. Some kid playing ball in the street, gets under my truck to get his ball and opens the valve. I know it sounds crazy, but I've had some crazy things happen to past trucks I've owned... Wanted to beat one guy to death... . he went to jail instead. Maybe I'm just bitter from living in a big city for too long...

 

[rubberneck]

Hey, does anybody know if there is a diffence between the 89-93 and the 02-06 drain plugs?? Genos lists them both as 18mm. I have one that was supposed to go on the 1992, but we sold the truck and I wonder if I could use it on the 06??

 

[rubberneck]

I don't like the fact that those quick drain plugs can be opened so easily. Some kid playing ball in the street, gets under my truck to get his ball and opens the valve. I know it sounds crazy, but I've had some crazy things happen to past trucks I've owned... Wanted to beat one guy to death... . he went to jail instead. Maybe I'm just bitter from living in a big city for too long...

This is the only concern that i have had with the fumoto, but i have had it ont the truck for 98K miles now (since 1st oil change) and so far so good. Knock on wood. Plus, i think it would be hard to miss that big ol 11 qt puddle. :-{}

 

[69RoadRunner]

I don't like the fact that those quick drain plugs can be opened so easily. Some kid playing ball in the street, gets under my truck to get his ball and opens the valve. I know it sounds crazy, but I've had some crazy things happen to past trucks I've owned... Wanted to beat one guy to death... . he went to jail instead. Maybe I'm just bitter from living in a big city for too long...

Think about it. Only a very, very small percentage of vehicles have these drain plugs. You can only tell by sticking your head under the vehicle.



Do you really think kids are going to go around sticking their heads under dozens and dozens of vehicles to find one with a Fumoto valve? They're really too lazy to do this.

 

[CDonaldson]

Not only are they too lazy, but most are too stupid, knowing about this valve would require reading. If it's not in some tv commercial they have no clue. I can't imagine they would even know what an oil pan is let alone think to themselves "Hey this guy's got a fumoto valve, I'll screw with him and drain out his oil!" They just look into your windows and see if they want to steal your stereo or whatever.



CD

 

[Dutch & Di]

I can help you with that question. The 18mm plug fits 1989-1993 & 2002-2006. The 22mm plug fits 1994-2001.

 

[BigDaddy]

If it is security that worries you, drill a hole in the lever and safety wire.

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[GAmes]

If it is security that worries you, drill a hole in the lever and safety wire.

An excellent idea!

 

[HSpiering]

drain plug hanging down???. not to sure about that. had an 04 that i took places one should not take a truck ( i got lost). before i got out 25 miles creek beds and side hills i banged about every thing under the truck. had 11 inch ground clearance on my 04. now i have only 8 inch on 06. did not like to give that up.

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[MFalkinham]

If it is security that worries you, drill a hole in the lever and safety wire.

Or you can use an old-fashioned spring hose clamp to keep the lever from moving. Someone would need a pliers to remove it before doing any harm.

 

[stownsend]

Oh yea. One of the best things I have ever bought for my truck! I bought the kit from Geno's: EZ-DP-22MMPL-DG. No more mess!

 

[SMorneau]

I had a temperature probe that was in the left PTO cover of my 5600 get broken off driving on paved roads. Obviously something bounced up and hit it. Activating a lever is a concern but so is yellow metal getting smacked hard enough to break it. Just my two cents.

 

[Willys]

I have the drain valve with the green tube mentioned earlier in this thread on my truck, which has been on for over 150k miles. It hasn't 'leaked' so far as I can tell- though occasionally there might be a few drops in the cap that also may have been there when I put it on from the previous oil change. Not a big deal, I don't leave spots on driveways. My folks have them on 3 other CTD trucks, and my new '95 and my dad's new '94 will soon be getting them as well. With the 4 that have them, I'd say its a combined over 300k miles and no problems.



The lever valve that extends below the oil pan seems like a good idea, especially with the safety wire to protect it from getting opened. But, my trucks are work trucks, and end up getting driven through the deep brush of southern woods on a regular basis. I won't take the chance with such a critical part on my trucks. I think Murphy must follow me around... because I am all too familiar with his law.



EDIT: I cracked at least 3 stock drain plugs on my '96 before I got the EZ change plug. I cracked plug will definitely leave a noticeable puddle on the concrete. :-laf



The EZ change plug is easy to use without making a mess, and even if you can't find the tube to change your oil, you can use a long ratchet extension to push the valve up.

 

[maggies man]

Has anyone ever ground down, or cut out the old bung and welded in a new one. My engine will be coming out Monday and I was thinking of doing this since the threads are pulled in the old pan. Any advice would be helpful. Just bought this 1993 w250 extended cab w/ 130000 miles on it. Oil pan gasket and timing case gasket are leaking, then discovered the drain plug problem. Thanks in advance.