DTT valve body.. help

[Mopar-muscle]

good question deiselnerd , i'm not even sure how to respond , or if i should respond . i think alot of the slavish devotion comes from being told you were getting the best product and then being stuck on the side of the road beacuse yyou were one of the "CASH COWS" and its cheaper to deal with a warranty claim than wait for the investment in a better product to be returned .

jthorpe , the DTT product is more directed towards the trailer towing crowd , i am reminded of it all the time from Bill . we just seem to hear more from the racing crowd than the trailer towing crowd , which gives you the idea that its a hot rod part .

 

[Dieselnerd]

Hammong, I disagree with you. I don't know how long you have been descending long grades with a heavy vehicle in tow but I've done it for over 30 years with automatic transmissions. If I left it in drive and just kept stepping on the brake I wouldn't be here because brake fade would have sent me over the side of a pass somewhere long ago. At the very least I take it out of OD and use the brakes where needed without riding them and getting fade. I have never had a transmission problem on any vehicle because I do monitor temps and I do use brakes when necessary. I ask again, where is it written that a lower gear going down hill hurts your transmission? Also it's hard to cause overheating unless you have an exhaust brake which is another story. Then you will do damage unless you keep it locked up. Enough said, we are getting way off topic and I think I started it, I'll stop!

[This message has been edited by Dieselnerd (edited 05-22-2001). ]

 

[Dr.Kayak]

M. M. -- From your experience a DTT upgrade will solve the reliability problem with the 47RE? Reliability is a big issue with me. Performance enhancements are great but not at the expense of reliability. .

 

[tmacc]

jthorpe,
I beleive I recall your post when you were having problems w/ your VB. I also recall that Bill responded and said that he needed to recalabrate your VB for light thottle useage. Apparently they didn't ask and you didn't mention it when you ordered it. Not being critical to either one of you here, just sounds like miss communication at time of order. I kept that thread in mind when I ordered my TC & VB and made sure I mentioned that I too spent time in heavy traffic. Just something to keep in mind for others reading this post and thinking of ordering transmission up-grades from any of the vendors not just DTT. Glad everything is working for you now. It does get frustrating when something doesn't work as planned.
Tom

 

[jthorpe]

Originally posted by hammong:
Repeat after me: Using your $3500 automatic transmission to slow you down is bad. Using your $60 brake shoes to slow you down is good.

I don't know where you come from but I have been pulling trailers for quite some time and I have done it with more than just this auto. I'm sorry but if you're using your brakes only in the mountains of Colorado or similair areas, you're toast, or lucky you made it but it aint smart.

What I don't like on this board and why I usually don't post much here is those who somehow think they're better than everyone else, I. E. insecure fools who talk down to me because I am one of the few who aren't happy with a DTT VB. Get over it people. The fact remains that DTT isn't the end all be all. No matter how good you think you are, there is always someone, or something better.

Jack


Jack

 

[Dieselnerd]

Bravo Jack!

 

[groundpounder]

Man this is starting to sound like the Ford site.

 

[Koa Man]

My Dodge Owner's Manual on page 101 says, "use "2" Second when climbing long grades and for engine braking when descending moderately steep grades. " It also says to use "1" First for engine braking on very steep hills. Since the manufacturer recommends it, I have been doing that going down steep hills. 52K miles and no problems so far.

 

[Bob Wagner]

Originally posted by jthorpe:
No matter how good you think you are, there is always someone, or something better.

Jack

OK Jack back up the quote. Show me the product...

I'm game #ad

 

[jthorpe]

Originally posted by Bob Wagner:
OK Jack back up the quote. Show me the product...

I'm game #ad

Maybe I could ship the VB to you, or even send you the whole truck! Yeah, that's practical. You're game for what, falling into the category I talked about in my previous post?

 

[Bob Wagner]

give us the link or who manufacturers the better products?

Lets not get petty, I am game.

You show me a better 91% TC and VB and lets get it on ...

I mean it

 

[Mopar-muscle]

insecure fools ... thats cute ... people are insecure because they are happy wit hthe product they purchased , that door i guess swings both ways ??

jack every company has a customer with a bad experience for every X number of good , no matter how hard people try you can't please everybody , law of averages .

as far as using the engine as a brake , this is not hurting the trans directly , what it is doing is causing the TC to sheer thru the fluid heating it up and possibly causing a failure due to heat , the only proper way to use an auto i guess is with an exhast brake and a device to keep the TC locked , but only to a certian speed .

sorry for getting off topic , again , must be my insecurity ???

turbo , whats the outcome ???

 

[jthorpe]

You get it on with yourself bud. You can call All-Pro Transmission at 919-876-9720. They don't have a website. David is the manager there and can get you all of the information you're looking for about the VB and TC if you're so curious.

Don't come here giving me a hard time because DTT isn't perfect son. Call David up and ask them about the products they sell. As far as I'm concerned, they're the best builders in the Carolinas. You can talk to their builders if you want to. I don't really care.

My point was that there is ALWAYS going to be something out there that is better. In my opinion, the VB and TC that has been installed into my vehicle is better than DTT. I'm not trashing on Bill K and his product. He tried as much as he could to help make it work but it wasn't to be. As I pointed out in my other posts, I don't usually post on here much because God forbid someone have an opinion about DTT or other products that isn't pure joy, and many people "have a cow" as Bart would put it and start throwing insults. I'm here to get and give information, not get into a childish contest with you about "My Dad is bigger than your Dad. " So get over it and move on, DTT is probably for the most part a great product, but it's far from perfect.

 

[Joe G.]

Did anyone ever help turbo lcc before the ranting started?

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Joe George
Eureka, CA

'95 2500 CC auto 4X4,3. 54,Combo EGT/boost guage,custom switch panel,PacBrake,TST #5,DTT TC/VB,Automatic motorhome steps on both sides,Foldacover hard bed cover,Cummins chrome kit,Black steel grill guard,Front hitch receiver, KDP 160,000-NM-WT Insurance

 

[Sky]

Originally posted by jthorpe:

What I don't like on this board and why I usually don't post much here is those who somehow think they're better than everyone else, I. E. insecure fools who talk down to me because I am one of the few who aren't happy with a DTT VB. Get over it people. The fact remains that DTT isn't the end all be all. No matter how good you think you are, there is always someone, or something better.

Jack


Jack

Jack, nobody was "talking down to you". The way I read it was you "talked DTT down first" . Saying they they "should build VB based on towing not drag raceing" Well you got to think that maby your going to get a little bit of a rise from people with that. However your happy with your truck and im happy with mine so were all happy!

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2001 QuadCab,SWB,Auto, 4X4,4" Flowmaster Raceing Exhaust, DTT TC & VB, EZ Box, Bosch 275 Injectors, Mag-Hytech transmission pan/Dana 70, K&N, 33" BFG AT'S... ... .....

 

[jthorpe]

Originally posted by Mopar-muscle:
insecure fools ... thats cute ... people are insecure because they are happy wit hthe product they purchased , that door i guess swings both ways ??

jack every company has a customer with a bad experience for every X number of good , no matter how hard people try you can't please everybody , law of averages .

You just solidified my point, maybe without even knowing it. It's great that most people are happy with the product. I am glad they are. Bill is a nice guy and I have nothing but pure respect for the man. He refunded my money for the VB immediately.

My point is that if you're happy with the product, be happy about it and don't sweat it.

The ones who are "insecure fools", are those who have to immediately throw insults or childish remarks at someone just because it makes them feel better about the product that they purchased; God forbid someone doesn't think they way they do.

 

[jthorpe]

Originally posted by Sky:
Jack, nobody was "talking down to you". The way I read it was you "talked DTT down first" . Saying they they "should build VB based on towing not drag raceing" Well you got to think that maby your going to get a little bit of a rise from people with that. However your happy with your truck and im happy with mine so were all happy!

I agree with you Sky, to a point. I don't remember talking "down" about the DTT product. If you go back and re-read my initial post in this thread, it outlines my experience only. In the end, I said it wasn't for me. I don't see any wording in that post that talked down to the DTT product.

In ref. to my second post, I truely believe that to build a product for street use, you have to take all factors into consideration before putting something out there, or you're going to get a lot of customer kickback.

 

[Bob Wagner]

Originally posted by jthorpe:


The ones who are "insecure fools", are those who have to immediately throw insults or childish remarks at someone just because it makes them feel better about the product that they purchased;

I see no insults here at all just questions and answers.

Where are the insults #ad

 

[Turbo Terry]

I have the same syptoms as above. I have decided that its a small inconvenience for the most part and mostly solved by proper fluid level and driving habit style. As in when you know its going to shift step into it a little instead of holding the throttle steady, Also if your driving in 2nd( why did you get a auto if you want to shift) do not let up on the throttle or it will try to shift up as stated above. Leave it in drive and go.

 

[Turbo Terry]

I do not really think anybody was telling anybody which T/C or VB to buy or talking down to anybody. You buy a auto not to have to shift. In my opinion if ya live in the mountains and or tow hard and heavy no auto would beat a stick with a e- brake. I have a auto because I drive in traffic and get tired of shifting. Chill