Edge EZ on Power Level "0"?

[Ben Rumson]

I have a STOCK '03 HO Automatic w/ a K&N stock box air filter.



I'm evaluating a BD Power Pup v. an Edge EZ to see which one I like - and which one to buy.



Bully Dog Power Pup

I starting with the BD on "Tow" mode (50 to 70 HP) and have gone from 15. 4 to 19. 1 MPG in just over 200 miles - mix of city and highway driving - based on the overhead console. I'm very happy with the improved mileage . I understand the the BD is working with Timming and Duration (but not pressure). Is this corrrect?



Edge EZ

I haven't put this on yet because I'm not sure what setting to use and whether my stock truck can handle it. I understand that the edge works on Pressure and "some" Duration (but not timming). I could be wrong...



Situation/Question:

I'm happy with the mpg improvement on the BD and will tow a 28' 5th this summer. I'm not looking to add more power than stock can handle.



I am wanting to also get more pressure in the formula that the BD isn't giving by possibly using the EZ in addition to the BD in "tow" mode. My goal in doing this is to get a little better mileage than with the BD alone - WITHOUT adding much more power.



Can the Edge EZ add pressure only with no (or very limited) additional power?



I found an EZ User Manual on the internet that shows power levels of 0,1,2,3, and 4. Level "1" adds 40 HP. There's no mention of what power level "0" does. I'm hoping that power level "0" will add pressure, but little (if any) HP.



If it DOES add pressure and very little HP, I may run the EZ on "0" for better pressure in addition to the BD Pup set on "Tow" mode (50 - 70 HP) in hopes of getting a little better mileage.



Thanks for your help.

- Ben

 

[SierraRam]

If you add pressure you will add power! The EZ is a pressure box only and stacks well with the BD Pup. I see most of the improvement on the lower end power with this stack.



Also your display is worthless for determining mileage you need to hand caculate.

 

[JHMiller]

EZ or Edge/Attitude?

What you are describing sounds like the Edge Juice/Attitude. I thought the EZ had 3 power settings that were changed by moving a jumper in the box itself. If it is and Edge Juice/Att. 0 is stock, mine has 0-5. 0=stock, 1=mileage, 2=tow, 3=drive, 4=race, 5=extreme. Can't remember what the actual Hp or Torque of each level are, but I run on 4 because that's where I get the best mileage empty. I don't race around and do drop to tow when towing, the torque curve peak is suppose to be lower just for towing. A suggestion before you add any power would be to get the stock muffler off, you'll like the power improvement but you'll need to increase the system to 4" for much power additions. But stock you'll be amazed at the performance increase just changing the muffler out alone. As I remember the 3. 5" system is good for about 40 maybe 50 HP max. on my 03 6 speed. I know the auto was lower HP than the 6 speed so you might give that a try first and you might have more room to add more HP with the auto. If you do consider the muffler and want to keep the noise down, check out the posts on the Donaldson muffler (they seem to be getting the best reports) and only do it once. One note of importance, if it is not the Edge Juice/Attitude that has gauges, DO NOT add power with out EGT monitoring, not kidding here... John

 

[JHMiller]

I just checked out the Edge site, they have the CR/ in cab adjust on the fly and the mileage max. So I assume you are describing the Juice/Att. Anyway check out these 2 muffler posts, Exhaust is done forever, pg 4 today and Best flow thru muffler, pg 34 today... John

 

[JHMiller]

If you are interested in more noise, I do have a used Silent Might muffler and a new never installed 4" down pipe for a 03 I'd like to sell... John

 

[Ben Rumson]

Power level "0" is stock for ease in setting no power without removing the unit

Thanks for helping with the EZ questions I had. It is and EZ for sure - not a juice or attitude. It had the removeable end plate and the 3 left and 3 right jumper pins. I finally got a hold of esge in Ogden and they said that power level "0" is stock. They did that so it could be changed back to stock without having to completely remove the box from the truck.



Thanks for the help !!

 

[CookJ]

Thanks for helping with the EZ questions I had. It is and EZ for sure - not a juice or attitude. It had the removeable end plate and the 3 left and 3 right jumper pins. I finally got a hold of esge in Ogden and they said that power level "0" is stock. They did that so it could be changed back to stock without having to completely remove the box from the truck.



Thanks for the help !!

Can you tell me what the jumper settings for stock? I was told some time back (by Edge) that the box had to be removed to go down to stock power. thanks

 

[Ben Rumson]

Send me your e-mail and I'll forward the settings to you

I found the Installation Instructions for the EZ (. PDF format) somewhere on the internet and saved a copy to my computer. Page 11 of the Manual has the settings and jumper locations for the different power levels.



It has good pictures and fairly good written instructions.



I tried to attach the file to this reply but it's too large. Please private message me with your e-mail address and I'll send it to you direct (e-mail to e-mail).



- Bruce

 

[JJPage]

FYI



XX: ::: LEVEL 1

X:: ::X LEVEL 2

X:: :X: LEVEL 3

::: :XX LEVEL 4

X:: X:: LEVEL 5

::: X:: LEVEL 5 #2

::: XX: LEVEL 6





LEVEL 3 is default , this is what my original literature says, up to LEVEL 4.



I was mistaken(about stock power), just pulled out the box, level 1-40hp/150tq, 2-50hp/180tq, 3-60hp/200tq, 4-70hp/220tq.

 

[Ben Rumson]

more than level 4?

My literature only goes to Level 4. From your chart... is there more power above level 4 and if so, do you know how much??



THANKS

 

[CookJ]

Thanks Ben. If i did it correctly, you should recieve a pm. thanks in advance.

 

[JJPage]

My literature only goes to Level 4. From your chart... is there more power above level 4 and if so, do you know how much??



THANKS

Sorry, the settings after 4 were never released by edge to the public.



Edge says the pins on the left hand side are for storing the jumpers only, that is probably why the two number 5's, have the same result.



I can tell you, I have tried 5 and 6, they definitely raise the pressure and are prone to spikes (witnessed on my rp gauge), also egt's get hot very quick.



I really advise against using them for any prolonged period, Edge cut out the ___ ______ pins on the _____ hand side on later models, to prevent 5 & 6 from being used.



I still am unsure where level "0" is!



Jess

 

[Ben Rumson]

Good Info

THANKS for the supplemental information!!

 

[CookJ]

Ben rumson- got your pm, thanks. The information on my EZ is as follows:

serial #40002024 yr 3/13/2003 model# EZD1000C



About a year ago, i contacted Edge and the tech told me i would have to remove the box to go back to stock. I indicated to him that the '03 install manual has a jumper setting for stock power and he said to ignore (for reasons i cannot remember). Although i have yet to remove the box, i can say that I feel no power change from level 1 to stock. So, i'm still curious if there actually is a stock setting, or, there is something wrong with my box. Also, when the EZ arrived, i noticed on the left bank of pins, the top pin (3rd row) was missing. Any thoughts? thanks

 

[AH64ID]

First off. . . The O/H is inacurate in stock trim, with any sort of programmer or power adder the O/H is even worse (as the computer doesn't see the change in the fuel map)... So going off the O/H for a mpg increase will only leave you disappointed at the pump. .

Adding pressure adds power. . more pressure means more fuel means more power...

I personally don't recommend pressure on trucks that tow. . too hard on injectors.

 

[Ben Rumson]

CookJ

Hey CookJ,



My innermost left hand upper pin is also removed.



I found Differing Diagrams between the schematic posted above by JJPage and the EZ Manual I downloaded off the internet and sent to you in . PDF format.



JJPage's Power Level six (6) is the same as the downloaded manual's Power Level zero (0). Conclusion - they're at opposite ends of the spectrum of umph. WOW



I set my EZ on the Manual's Level zero (0) [AKA JJPage's Level six (6)] and the result is definitely a razor-sharp, jerk your head back with the slightest throttle pressure increase in power - .



I think the manual is wrong and JJPage is right. The manual I downloaded might be for a later/earlier version of the EZ and therefor the charts don't apply unless we have the "very" unit it was written for. What a difference! Unsuspecting/unknowing users could get hosed big time if they thought their unit was on NO power (Level zero) and it was really on Level six (6) - as was the case for me.



Watch out. Don't trust the manual I sent to you!



There's Another difference with the Manual and what the person at EZ in Ogden, Ut told me just last week. He told me the left-hand side was only for storage of the extra jumpers and that they didn't do anything for the performance of the unit. On the other hand, the manual shows that with the jumpers in the two furthest left-hand positions it's Power Level one (1) - not zero as the person at Edge told me. The manual and JJPage are in agreement here.



On this item, I'm inclined to not trust the person I spoke to at Edge. He was a nice person, but I felt, at the time, that he probably wasn't too knowledgable on the units... more like he was in sales (and new at it) and not in the tech side of the business. I'm not dissing him or Edge. I AM saying that I have more confidence with JJPage's schematic above than anything else.



I've placed a copy of JJ's schematic in my manual to use instead of the manual's diagrams and I'm ignoring what the guy at edge told me about the left-hand side doing nothing.



Hope this helps. Holler if you feel/find out anything different that might help me as well.



Take Care

 

[CookJ]

I've had two manuals, one that came with the EZ, the other I downloaded. I lost the original one but do not believe it ever stated a stock setting (just 40,50,60,70hp). I later downloaded one from Edge's site for the 2003's. It had a setting for stock and i tried it but could not feel power decrease. At the time, i was having some issues with my lift pump and fca. I've since changed both and noticed an improvement, but, haven't tried the stock setting (or, the secret#6) as of yet mainly because of my discussions with Edge and what I have read here on the tdr. This evening, i'll try the #6 and see what it does now with the improvements i've made to the fca/pump and report back. If i notice a power increase, i'll assume jjpage's diagram is correct and will need to remove the box entirely should i want to resume stock mode. Thanks guys.

 

[SShafranko]

Is there a new Edge EZ box out there? I'm confused, the only EZ box i have ever seen has only three settings with an in-cab toggle switch. My Juice w/attitude has 6 settings and a 0 for stock. Please let me know if there is because i am in the market for one and i want to get the right one. Thnx

 

[CookJ]

Well, I tried the level 6 setting at lunch today and it's definetely not stock! I also noticed the egt's up a bit as JJPage explained. Although I don't plan on using this level (or #5) at all, think i will turn on the VA on the way home to see how these two respond. In closing, it would appear the EZ needs to come out if we want to return to stock pressure. Thanks for the information guys.

 

[AH64ID]

Is there a new Edge EZ box out there? I'm confused, the only EZ box i have ever seen has only three settings with an in-cab toggle switch. My Juice w/attitude has 6 settings and a 0 for stock. Please let me know if there is because i am in the market for one and i want to get the right one. Thnx

Exactly. . I have only ever seen a 3 position EZ. .