Egr Can it be disabled out or does it have be deleted.

[Robert59]

I just bought my first diesel. I have a 2017 4th gen 6.7 2500. found out that the EGR is an evil corrupt. Can it be zeroed out by a tuner then put back for inspection. Or do I have do a delete. Where I live I don't think they do a full inspection on exhaust as further south they do as you live closer to NYC. If either way what tuner works best for the buck. I was told as long as I'm not using the truck as an all out performance. I can leave in the dpf. I don't mind since there's no soot and sulfur smell. Any info would be highly appreciated

 

[Ozymandias]

Today you can buy such stuff only below the counter or from abroad.
The EPA is watching that market very closely and fined vendors and users heavily.

 

[lpennock]

Unlike the pre-DEF models that needed a lot of EGR to keep NOX under control, my17 doesn't use as much EGR. Pre-DEF models had a EGR cleaning at 60K miles but that requirement has been removed on the DEF models.

 

[EDankievitch]

Well over 145k miles an No EGR issue. Just drive an enjoy your truck. No need to delete anything.

 

[Jim W]

Did you read the buyers guide that TDR provides to it's members? If not I would read the buyers guide for your year of truck also the one for around 2013 and 2014. This should explain the changes to the emissions system and the new SCR emissions over the older 6.7L Cummins truck say from 2007.5 to 2012 with only the DPF and the higher EGR.
The buyers guides are in the LH column on the home page.

 

[Ltngdrvr]

DEF trucks only use about 1/3rd the EGR as pre-DEF trucks.
EGR on my truck has been untouched and my truck has 568,000 miles on it so far.
All emissions intact, only thing ever changed was the SCR cat under the recall.

 

[Robert59]

Well over 145k miles an No EGR issue. Just drive an enjoy your truck. No need to delete anything.

the edr is also choking out the engine. A lot. Some stated 8 to 14 mpg increase when they removed it. One tread said it can zeroed out through the obo outlet and when its time for inspection just remove it then plug it in after. So I'm just researching.

 

[TRAMPLINEMAN]

Well over 145k miles an No EGR issue. Just drive an enjoy your truck. No need to delete anything.

While this may be true for your truck, it’s not for all. Would you enjoy driving your truck while it’s at the dealer every other week with emissions related problems?

 

[Ozymandias]

I'd never buy a deleted Truck.

Resale value is much lower on these and especially dealers refuse to trade in such vehicles as they have to bring them back to stock for resale.

 

[EDankievitch]

While this may be true for your truck, it’s not for all. Would you enjoy driving your truck while it’s at the dealer every other week with emissions related problems?

My first two years were a nightmare. Wasn’t until RAM eliminated the Ammonia sensor and got the Software right did this stupid truck start to behave. First 3 trips to Fla it would go into limp mode around South Carolina or Georgia. Never had an issue with the EGR system. My issue were a bad pressure differential sensor and Software. Even the issue I had with the DEF pump was due to the tank and pump heater not being turned on. The pump would blow the fuse when the DEF froze one winter. Again a software issue. RAM did swap out the SRC under that recall a few years back. Last 65k miles it’s been good. Just the normal Death wobble ball joints, Turbo actuator, Driveshaft U joints Brakes an tires Bs. Normal stuff you expect when you buy a $60k truck.

 

[DonFitzwater]

the edr is also choking out the engine. A lot. Some stated 8 to 14 mpg increase when they removed it. One tread said it can zeroed out through the obo outlet and when its time for inspection just remove it then plug it in after. So I'm just researching.

Most reliable sources claim little to no gain from EGR delete alone. As mentioned, leave it alone and drive it, very few egr related problems on the 6.7 Cummins.

 

[firemansdiesel]

the edr is also choking out the engine. A lot. Some stated 8 to 14 mpg increase when they removed it.

False.....

 

[Ltngdrvr]

the edr is also choking out the engine. A lot. Some stated 8 to 14 mpg increase when they removed it. One tread said it can zeroed out through the obo outlet and when its time for inspection just remove it then plug it in after. So I'm just researching.

You're getting your info wrong, or from the wrong source.

 

[AH64ID]

the edr is also choking out the engine. A lot. Some stated 8 to 14 mpg increase when they removed it. One tread said it can zeroed out through the obo outlet and when its time for inspection just remove it then plug it in after. So I'm just researching.

Ha! Time to do some better research.

My 100% stock 2018 gets within ± 5% of the mileage my 2005 got under nearly all circumstances, and the 05 had multiple efficiency upgrades to the truck and motor. The only time it doesn’t is due to extensive driving with the torque converter unlocked (05 was a manual), not the EGR.

There isn’t 2 mpg left on the table from the factory, let alone 8-14 mpg.

 

[lpennock]

Ha! Time to do some better research.

My 100% stock 2018 gets within ± 5% of the mileage my 2005 got under nearly all circumstances, and the 05 had multiple efficiency upgrades to the truck and motor. The only time it doesn’t is due to extensive driving with the torque converter unlocked (05 was a manual), not the EGR.

There isn’t 2 mpg left on the table from the factory, let alone 8-14 mpg.

My 18 gets 1-3 mpg less than my 06 in most conditions. I do attribute tge difference to a G56 in the 06. Running 75mph with the camper on is where the are the closest. 68mph with or without the camper is where the are ffurthest apart.

 

[AH64ID]

My 18 gets 1-3 mpg less than my 06 in most conditions. I do attribute tge difference to a G56 in the 06. Running 75mph with the camper on is where the are the closest. 68mph with or without the camper is where the are ffurthest apart.

I don’t do it often, but 65 empty is one speed where the ‘18 is better than the 05. I attribute it to the VGT and taller OD of the Aisin vs the NV5600.

Both of which are better than dad got with his 06 G56 under similar conditions. He did often pull better mileage than I did, but a significantly slower speeds. The AD G56 pulled like no other in 6th, but man they could burn some fuel! We did get his mileage up a bit with tuning too, and 03-04 style pistons/injectors.

Needless to say, the 18 hasn’t really disappointed me on mileage... other than hundreds of miles at less than 20mph with the converter unlocked.

 

[lpennock]

I don’t do it often, but 65 empty is one speed where the ‘18 is better than the 05. I attribute it to the VGT and taller OD of the Aisin vs the NV5600.

Both of which are better than dad got with his 06 G56 under similar conditions. He did often pull better mileage than I did, but a significantly slower speeds. The AD G56 pulled like no other in 6th, but man they could burn some fuel! We did get his mileage up a bit with tuning too, and 03-04 style pistons/injectors.

Needless to say, the 18 hasn’t really disappointed me on mileage... other than hundreds of miles at less than 20mph with the converter unlocked.

My 18 has 4.10 so overall final drive is similar to the 06 G56 3.73 with 295/70-18 which probably has a lot to do with the 06 doing better.

 

[Ltngdrvr]

Mine is 2WD, so it has a lot less driveline drag, I have gotten 24+ MPG (26+ EVIC) with favorable winds, over the course of a trip, unladen of course. I generally run no more than 5 over the speed limit, so most driving is at around 75. I also run nearly 100% highway miles, and use cruise whenever possible.

 

[AH64ID]

My 18 has 4.10 so overall final drive is similar to the 06 G56 3.73 with 295/70-18 which probably has a lot to do with the 06 doing better.

Also the added drag of DRW vs SRW.

 

[CToney]

EGR adds cooling load to the truck. The soot also bungs up the IMAP sensor. The sensor begins to not read properly. This leads to reduced performance and fuel efficiency. If anyone has followed the Ecodiesel’s at all the IMAP sensor pics are disgusting. I’m not sure how the 6.7s compare. The ISX, DD15, and Ag engines I run across have different degrees of EGR contamination. The CNH engines have it right no EGR and no VGT. I think I should give John a call.