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Engine number is on the driver's side front gear case of the engine. Vin is on the window plate or door jamb sticker. The engine number plate will also tell you what horsepower rating your engine has.
Once you have the data from that plate might want it as a tattoo…seems the engine s/n, Family number, VCE number, ratings etc. are ALL useful at SOME point!!!
Once you have the data from that plate might want it as a tattoo…seems the engine s/n, Family number, VCE number, ratings etc. are ALL useful at SOME point!!!
I took a 14MP pic of it, cleaned it up to be readable, made a cropped version and put 'em both on my PDA phone. So long's I have the phone with me, I have the data. And when I ride the motorbike to the dealer, I just show 'em the phone.
I went with Neal's route I took a picture of it this morning, now yesterday morning,stored on server for worldwide access and hardcopy in the truck. However an engine plate tattoo with MY valuable data might help me out as my brain continues to degrade... .
Its amazing how some parts people wont look up crap without a vin or engine number and others will do it without a 2nd thought... . This parts person wanted the number for the thermostat and o ring... .
I have been a partsman for over 35 years and a lot of it is repetition, you remember from doing it over and over. Having an interest in what you do also helps. I've worked with guys who have sold the same part over and over but because they doesn't have an interest in that particular part, say performance parts, it doesn't stick in their brain. A "good" Dodge or Cummins partsman shouldn't need an ESN to look up valve cover gaskets for a 12 valve as they fit 98 and older 4 and 6 cyl "B" engines. The Cummins p/n is 3930906. That doesn't mean if he doesn't know the p/n of what you want that he isn't a "good" partsman. The Cummins parts system, like most now a days, is set up to work in a certain way, in this case by typing in the ESN first. It isn't really designed to work without one, although it can be done. That's where good old books come in handy. You can also make notes in them.
You should hear the way some people describe things and how little info they give you. They may know in their mind what they want but they don't always tell you. I've had people yell at me because in their mind if you can take it apart then you should be able to buy every piece separately. I tell them I can take the sleeve off my shirt but I can't buy a replacement one.
BTW I still remember the VIN for my 73 Sebring and my 69 Barracuda that I bought in the mid seventies. And yes I know my ESN for my 03 Cummins, and the 97 I used to own. Just don't ask me what my wife said to me yesterday about something that is going to happen next week. :-laf Shadrach
I'm with you Shadrach. I was just commenting on the fact that some people wont even try to help you with out the engine # while others will do whatever it takes to figure out what you need. While I have you here, would you mind checking something for me? The cummins dealer ordered me (without the engine #) a new water in fuel sensor that came with a fleetguard fuel filter. I installed it to find out that the plug is ever so slightly different. I called back with the engine number and he said it was the right part #. If I pm you the engine # and part number would you mind checking? Im just gonna change pigtails on it since its not worth my time arguing over it but was curious as to what happened.
You should have got a p/n 3831852-S which fit 89-96 CTD. I have seen some that don't seem to fit in the plug properly, but was never able to get it resolved. If thats the case just cut the plug off your old one and make sure you seal it properly ( heat shrink it ).