Explanation for High Fuel Prices

[PKitzman]

I am getting tired of hearing you Big Oil backers crying how we don't have to buy gas, B*(& S*(%, yes we do have to buy gas, it is a part of life, what do expect families to do, walk 5 miles to the food mart and drag home 6 to 8 bags of staples and meats ect, how do they get to work each day? walk 15 to 30 miles?



My god man, open your freaking eyes son and take a good smell of coffee, because you are being totally ignorant on the issue.



Gas is not a luxury, it is a needed commodity for all Americans and other in the world.

John,



Food, water & air are necessities. Gas is not. You will not die if you could not buy anymore gas. Your life would radically change, but you would not die.



Realistically most people do need to purchase a certain amount of gas. You say you HAVE to drive 30 miles to work each day. WHY do you live so far from work? The american dream is to have a nice house with a picket fence in the country or the suburbs, but then you HAVE to drive a long way to work. Are ther NO houses that are closer to where you work? Could YOU get a job that is closer to your house? Can YOU change your driving style so YOU burn less fuel. Can YOU trade your vehicle in and get one that is more fuel efficient?



Realistically John you DO need to buy some fuel, but 99% of Americans don't NEED to burn as much as they are right now. There are a lot of things that YOU can do to help America become less dependent upon foreign oil. And yes, voting for a politician that DOESN'T have their head up their *SS is one of them.



Begging for inquiries into Big Oils price fixing will just waist tax payer money. This has been done several times before and the end result is that they find there is no big conspiricy... why??? BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE.



Do you have any idea of what it would take for all these companies to get together and actually fix the price of fuel? You don't think this would eventually leak out? Give me a break.



The solution to the problem is to burn less fuel. This is easy to say, but hard to do. The only way this sinks in to the general population is when it hits their pocket book. I don't like seeing people get hurt by high fuel prices, but I think in the LONG RUN these high prices will DRIVE the contry in the right direction. Times might get a little rough for some people, but this is what it takes for the US to break its addiction to oil.

 

[john3976]

Not a luxury, if you can't walk to get your groceries, then what the hell is that? I'm the one to open my eyes here... are you sure? hahaha go ahead and get all worked up, I'm going to go for a 30 mile bike ride to prepare for this summer when that's how I'll get to work. I'll give you those extra 2 gallons of fuel, cause I'm just that nice... or is it just not lazy?

I issue this challenge, man up and follow through with it since you think it is no big deal.



You go to the local food mart and buy one weeks worth of staples, meats and milk, forget the beer, but milk is something that kids need, now don't go shopping for just one person, shop for a family of 4 forget about those who have 5 to 7 in their family, just shop for a family of 4 and put together balanced meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner, now don't cheat, you walk to the store and walk home with one weeks worth of food items.



Your tune will change in the first 1/4 mile. Oh yeah and don't steal the stores cart, doing that just costs the rest of us more for our food.



Also to make this more real make sure your food mart is at least 4 to 5 miles from you, that is what most people have to travel to do their weekly food shopping. If it is farther then 5 miles deal with it and walk both ways.



Talk is cheap, buck up and take the challenge. Oh yeah and no TV dinners, real food prepared like mom used to make. That should fill up a good 6 to 9 bags, now carry all of that home and again no cheating, remember your a mans man and can do this.

 

[HRDROKN]

John,

Food, water & air are necessities. Gas is not. You will not die if you could not buy anymore gas. Your life would radically change, but you would not die.

Well ya... quite radically!

Realistically most people do need to purchase a certain amount of gas. You say you HAVE to drive 30 miles to work each day. WHY do you live so far from work?

To find housing that I can afford.

The american dream is to have a nice house with a picket fence in the country or the suburbs, but then you HAVE to drive a long way to work. Are ther NO houses that are closer to where you work?

Not that my family could afford.

Could YOU get a job that is closer to your house?

Not that pays enough for me to own a house.

Can YOU change your driving style so YOU burn less fuel.

I already do that.

Can YOU trade your vehicle in and get one that is more fuel efficient?

Cant afford a newer vehicle payment and the insurance to go along with it.

Realistically John you DO need to buy some fuel, but 99% of Americans don't NEED to burn as much as they are right now. There are a lot of things that YOU can do to help America become less dependent upon foreign oil.

Realistically 99% ?

And yes, voting for a politician that DOESN'T have their head up their *SS is one of them.

A... . isn't that an oxymoron?

The solution to the problem is to burn less fuel. This is easy to say, but hard to do.

That's not what you said above... . ?

The only way this sinks in to the general population is when it hits their pocket book. I don't like seeing people get hurt by high fuel prices, but I think in the LONG RUN these high prices will DRIVE the contry in the right direction. Times might get a little rough for some people, but this is what it takes for the US to break its addiction to oil.

And the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer... . yada yada yada..... think I'll go take a drive now.

 

[Rman]

I issue this challenge, man up and follow through with it since you think it is no big deal.



You go to the local food mart and buy one weeks worth of staples, meats and milk, forget the beer, but milk is something that kids need, now don't go shopping for just one person, shop for a family of 4 forget about those who have 5 to 7 in their family, just shop for a family of 4 and put together balanced meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner, now don't cheat, you walk to the store and walk home with one weeks worth of food items.



Your tune will change in the first 1/4 mile. Oh yeah and don't steal the stores cart, doing that just costs the rest of us more for our food.



Also to make this more real make sure your food mart is at least 4 to 5 miles from you, that is what most people have to travel to do their weekly food shopping. If it is farther then 5 miles deal with it and walk both ways.



Talk is cheap, buck up and take the challenge. Oh yeah and no TV dinners, real food prepared like mom used to make. That should fill up a good 6 to 9 bags, now carry all of that home and again no cheating, remember your a mans man and can do this.

Well hero, where I grew up you picked dinner up every night and cooked it. I think I would do that instead of lugging home 4 weeks worth of food. Another change brought by ignorant abuse of fuel. And trust me I'll take any challenge you can throw at me, I'm not the one who can't walk 30 miles without dying. I just biked it in 1 hr 15 minutes with a 15 mph wind. Do the math on that one.

 

[john3976]

Well hero, where I grew up you picked dinner up every night and cooked it. I think I would do that instead of lugging home 4 weeks worth of food. Another change brought by ignorant abuse of fuel. And trust me I'll take any challenge you can throw at me, I'm not the one who can't walk 30 miles without dying. I just biked it in 1 hr 15 minutes with a 15 mph wind. Do the math on that one.

Don't reduce it down to you and you alone, and by the way biking it is not so tough, I have a bike to and for some reason I am just never tired after a nice long several mile ride. Now walking several miles that is different, so all you have provided is a side step to the challenge, treat this challenge as 90% of America would have to live it, but if you are not able to butch up enough to complete this challenge then I understand it is because you come from a life of privilege and wealth and you just don't know how to rough it.

 

[Huskerman]

I am getting tired of hearing you Big Oil backers crying how we don't have to buy gas

For the record, I am not the one crying like a little b1tch about the price of a gallon of fuel.



I am not a "Big Oil" backer, but I DO have a lick of common sense. Heck, I don't even work for a "Big Oil" company but that doesn't mean I have lower my IQ down to less than 100! Common sense tells me that this is how capitalism works and if you have a problem with it, I would highly suggest you go to some of places I have been where you wouldn't have to worry about such annoyances as high fuel prices!!



In FACT you wouldn't have to worry about all sorts of annoyances such as owning your home, having to lug 9 sacks of groceries from the store etc!



People LOVE to use the term "Big Oil" and rail against the profits they are making and yet not ONE SINGLE PERSON HERE would like it if there was a message board worth of folks saying that food should be taken off their table!!



Where's the message board I can go to and complain about Joe Sixpack and what he charges to fix my car. Or how about Sally Sixpack and what she charges to bag my groceries. How about John Doe and the ridiculous amount he sells his cattle for?



You want the government to step in, why doesn't the government clean their own mess first? They already collect upwards of . 70 cents/gallon in fuel taxes AND another 40% of the corporations profits on top of THAT!!



I know the EASY thing to do is to blame the oil companies but if you actually did some research instead of just shooting your pie-holes off, you would already know that since 1986 health care costs have risen 200%, food stuffs have risen 300% and rent 100%. The average price of a gallon of gas has risen 60%. YES, 60%!



The truth of the matter is that a lot of the folks who like to b1tch and moan and whine about gas prices are more peeved about the fact that some CEO got 400 million dollars that they are never going to get. Well, that's life deal with it!! I won't ever have that kind of money either but the fact that the price of gas has gone up . 67 cents/gallon year over year in my area isn't going to impact that one bit.



BTW, please keep using the "Big Oil" phrase; it makes it easier for me to weed out those with something intelligent to say and those without.



Huskerman

 

[JFaulkner]

People LOVE to use the term "Big Oil"

Just wait until they realize that part of the high cost of gas (other than the SUPER HIGH taxes) is the cost of ethanol (which in case you "big oil" people don't know, is made from corn) when that little piece of info gets around it will be "BIG CORN" screwing us.



I like the politicians with the "winfall profit tax". That's it, tax a corporation for making a large profit. Because we all (well a few of us anyway) know that they will NEVER pass that extra tax on to the consumer.

Begging for inquiries into Big Oils price fixing will just waist tax payer money. This has been done several times before and the end result is that they find there is no big conspiricy... why??? BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE.

Awww come on now, Just because the other 6 or so times they've investigated the oil companies they never found any evidence doesn't mean anything. :-laf These Libs. are just one trick ponys, it's always someone elses fault.

I am getting tired of hearing you Big Oil backers crying how we don't have to buy gas, B*(& S*(%, yes we do have to buy gas, it is a part of life, what do expect families to do, walk 5 miles to the food mart and drag home 6 to 8 bags of staples and meats ect, how do they get to work each day? walk 15 to 30 miles?

No they don't need to walk (authough by the looks of most, it wouldn't do them any harm to do some excercise) but they could make one trip to the store, and here's an idea. Stop at the store on the way to or from work, it's called Multi-Tasking. I'm tired of the "can't afford to buy gas AND food" crap. If your job doesn't pay enough to justify the commute FIND ANOTHER JOB. I don't know about you but I can stay home and go broke I don't need to go to a job that doesn't support me to do it. Seems you have enough disposable income to pay for internet access, and toys for you trucks but can't seem to scrape up enough for "poor little timmy to eat".



Please tell me if the oil companies are in fact the cause of all this with their "unfair profits" of a whooping $0. 09 per gallon, what would (in your personal opinion) be a fair profit margin?



Keep in mind though that we're completely ignoring the real problem of special blends of fuel for certain areas of the country, and the $0. 70 per gallon tax on the fuel, and the tax on the profits, and the EPA regulations, and the lack of new refinerys, and the HUGE increase in world demand... . Sorry I wouldn't want the FACTS to get in the way of your OPINION!

I am getting tired of hearing you Big Oil backers

Just wanted to also mention (since I've been acused of working for big oil), that my family owns a trucking company. So if by using large amounts of fuel (about 9000 gal a month) makes me part of "BIG OIL" then all I can say is GUILTY! Funny how those who use the most whine the least!

 

[HRDROKN]

Well hero, where I grew up you picked dinner up every night and cooked it. I think I would do that instead of lugging home 4 weeks worth of food. Another change brought by ignorant abuse of fuel. And trust me I'll take any challenge you can throw at me, I'm not the one who can't walk 30 miles without dying. I just biked it in 1 hr 15 minutes with a 15 mph wind. Do the math on that one.

Any challenge? Well then... . go ahead and WALK 30 miles, let me know how it comes out... :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[JFaulkner]

Any challenge? Well then... . go ahead and WALK 30 miles, let me know how it comes out... :-laf :-laf :-laf

I barely want to walk to the mailbox, however I'm not overweight and I'm not whining about the prices. :-laf

 

[john3976]

For the record, I am not the one crying like a little b1tch about the price of a gallon of fuel.



I am not a "Big Oil" backer, but I DO have a lick of common sense. Heck, I don't even work for a "Big Oil" company but that doesn't mean I have lower my IQ down to less than 100! Common sense tells me that this is how capitalism works and if you have a problem with it, I would highly suggest you go to some of places I have been where you wouldn't have to worry about such annoyances as high fuel prices!!



In FACT you wouldn't have to worry about all sorts of annoyances such as owning your home, having to lug 9 sacks of groceries from the store etc!



People LOVE to use the term "Big Oil" and rail against the profits they are making and yet not ONE SINGLE PERSON HERE would like it if there was a message board worth of folks saying that food should be taken off their table!!



Where's the message board I can go to and complain about Joe Sixpack and what he charges to fix my car. Or how about Sally Sixpack and what she charges to bag my groceries. How about John Doe and the ridiculous amount he sells his cattle for?



You want the government to step in, why doesn't the government clean their own mess first? They already collect upwards of . 70 cents/gallon in fuel taxes AND another 40% of the corporations profits on top of THAT!!



I know the EASY thing to do is to blame the oil companies but if you actually did some research instead of just shooting your pie-holes off, you would already know that since 1986 health care costs have risen 200%, food stuffs have risen 300% and rent 100%. The average price of a gallon of gas has risen 60%. YES, 60%!



The truth of the matter is that a lot of the folks who like to b1tch and moan and whine about gas prices are more peeved about the fact that some CEO got 400 million dollars that they are never going to get. Well, that's life deal with it!! I won't ever have that kind of money either but the fact that the price of gas has gone up . 67 cents/gallon year over year in my area isn't going to impact that one bit.



BTW, please keep using the "Big Oil" phrase; it makes it easier for me to weed out those with something intelligent to say and those without.



Huskerman

First off, quit your crying about how unfair the tax is on our fuel, it is not unfair, you want unfair go overseas youwill learn what taxing fuel is all about.



In Florida depending on the county you are in we are only paying between 36 cents to maybe 44 cents a gallon in tax, that federal, state and local, in Lee County it is right at 36 cents a gallon, so tell who is really soaking the public and raking in the money? It is not the government, it is Big Oil.

 

[Huskerman]

it will be "BIG CORN" screwing us.

THAT was funny! Nice one JFaulkner!





I was born in Nebraska so I guess I will just have to go out and get me a t-shirt that says:



I SUPPORT "BIG CORN"







Hey John, you forgot to mention how "Big Oil" is paying "Big Auto" not to release the 100 mpg carb so that we have to keep buying more fuel.



Oh, you also forgot to mention that Elvis is alive and living with Amelia Earhart. I heard that they have a pet Bigfoot.



Huskerman

 

[Shrimpy]

O. K. Guys ... ... ... I concede. john has enlightened me and convinced me with facts :{ that the Government needs to step in and corral these runaway prices. We need them to come in and protect us. Why most of you here probably haven't increased you I. Q. but by about 10 points since you were spit out by your moms. No..... you guys are !diots for not wanting Big Brother to step in and stop Big, Mean, Evil, Oil. They don't do nothing but GIVE ALL of their money to the two top guys in the company anyway.



SARCASM OFF



john, I hope you live within 10 miles of a MAJOR TERMINAL facility for big oil. Because when they (goverment) step in, you will see the investment houses plow literally BILLIONS of dollars into the fuel commodity market. Can you answer why this will happen????? Probably not. I will let you stew on it awhile. Those who don't live in a major refining area will have to spend HOURS and HOURS waiting to get your ten gallons. I had only been driving for a year when jimmaa carter stepped in last time. I spent EVERY day in a gas line that summer. My dad had to have fuel for his company trucks and I would swap license plates around to get fuel for however many trucks I could EVERYDAY. My fathers business would have, and many of his friends businesses did, go under that summer. I spent from mid may to early September in gas lines from before the sun came up until the pumps ran dry.



But don't worry john, it will only cost $2. 85 a gallon instead of $2. 95 to $3. 00 a gallon... ... ..... big brother will protect you





Jim

 

[macdaddy]

For the record, I am not the one crying like a little b1tch about the price of a gallon of fuel.



I am not a "Big Oil" backer, but I DO have a lick of common sense. Heck, I don't even work for a "Big Oil" company but that doesn't mean I have lower my IQ down to less than 100! Common sense tells me that this is how capitalism works and if you have a problem with it, I would highly suggest you go to some of places I have been where you wouldn't have to worry about such annoyances as high fuel prices!!



In FACT you wouldn't have to worry about all sorts of annoyances such as owning your home, having to lug 9 sacks of groceries from the store etc!



People LOVE to use the term "Big Oil" and rail against the profits they are making and yet not ONE SINGLE PERSON HERE would like it if there was a message board worth of folks saying that food should be taken off their table!!



Where's the message board I can go to and complain about Joe Sixpack and what he charges to fix my car. Or how about Sally Sixpack and what she charges to bag my groceries. How about John Doe and the ridiculous amount he sells his cattle for?



You want the government to step in, why doesn't the government clean their own mess first? They already collect upwards of . 70 cents/gallon in fuel taxes AND another 40% of the corporations profits on top of THAT!!



I know the EASY thing to do is to blame the oil companies but if you actually did some research instead of just shooting your pie-holes off, you would already know that since 1986 health care costs have risen 200%, food stuffs have risen 300% and rent 100%. The average price of a gallon of gas has risen 60%. YES, 60%!



The truth of the matter is that a lot of the folks who like to b1tch and moan and whine about gas prices are more peeved about the fact that some CEO got 400 million dollars that they are never going to get. Well, that's life deal with it!! I won't ever have that kind of money either but the fact that the price of gas has gone up . 67 cents/gallon year over year in my area isn't going to impact that one bit.



BTW, please keep using the "Big Oil" phrase; it makes it easier for me to weed out those with something intelligent to say and those without.



Huskerman

Well put, excellent post.



Mac

 

[MCummings]

I drove around town today in my Dad's 8,000Lbs truck, because I broke mine, but that's beside the point, and I saw a very interesting thing...



Chevron, Conoco, and Valero had the most expensive prices, with most Chevrons not even selling diesel...



The truck stops were medium to high priced.



Exxon and Citgo (Circle K) had the lowest, by a fair margin.



Maybe Exxon figured out that if you sell a few pennies cheaper than everybody else you can sell more volume, and make more money?





Merrick

 

[Mundgyver]

First rule of business, if you can sell more volumn at a slightly cheaper price, you will make allot more money. Dave Smith up in Kellog Idaho has been doing this for years and makes a bundle of money saving money for his customers. He was moving anywhere from 120 to 175 trucks a day a few years ago. I don't know what he is doing now, but I know everytime I drive by on my trips over to Idaho so see my folks, his business is packed with customers.

 

[JFaulkner]

THAT was funny! Nice one JFaulkner!





I was born in Nebraska so I guess I will just have to go out and get me a t-shirt that says:



I SUPPORT "BIG CORN"







Hey John, you forgot to mention how "Big Oil" is paying "Big Auto" not to release the 100 mpg carb so that we have to keep buying more fuel.



Oh, you also forgot to mention that Elvis is alive and living with Amelia Earhart. I heard that they have a pet Bigfoot.



Huskerman

Yea but I see you live in Idaho now so your part of "Big Potato" so your the reason my french fries went up at McD's. I spent $400. 00 today at wal-mart because they're slow to raise their fuel prices so I exploit it, does that mean I'm supporting "Big Box Store".



I didn't mention the 100mpg carb 'cause big brother told me not to or he would have to kill me. And Elvis isn't alive anymore, he got abducted my aliens.



I went through my JCWhitney mag and I bought everything for my truck that "increases fuel milage" so I figure that if I put it all on, eventually I'll have to pump the excess fuel out of the tank so it doesn't run over.



seriously though you know that someone on here is saying "that carb thing is true man... . the oil companies killed the man who made it and stole it just to keep us down!"

 

[Huskerman]

"that carb thing is true man... . the oil companies killed the man who made it and stole it just to keep us down!"

When I read that, I laughed so hard that the soda I was drinking shot out my nose. Too funny.



Huskerman

 

[MCummings]

Fuel prices are so high because my 500HP 7,500Lb truck uses it all,, MUAHAHA! You're boned



Merrick

 

[Whiskey]

I heard on talk radio today that the goverment makes more money on fuel taxes, than BIG OIL made on profit!

whiskey

 

[JFaulkner]

I heard on talk radio today that the goverment makes more money on fuel taxes, than BIG OIL made on profit!



whiskey

Don't bring that up, it makes certain people mad that they can't place all the blame on "big oil"! :-laf There are a few one trick pony's on here that keep riding the "big oil" bandwagon. Due to their pure hatered of American capitalism and a complete ignorance to the way the system works they can not and will not look at both sides. None of the factors that contribute to the higher prices mean anything to them, unless it has to do with their image of a fat rich texas oil tycoon sitting in his office smoking a cigar laughing at "the little guy's hardship".



FACT: Since 1977 the us government has collected $1. 34 Trillion in gasoline tax revenues in inflation adjusted dollars. That's more than twice the amount of domestic profits earned by major U. S. oil companies during the same period.

woops... I forgot that doesn't matter.