Fifth wheel hitch for short box

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We are moving into a new house and unfortunately the Home owners rules require that you keep your cars/trucks in the garage at night. Unfortunately my 96 long bed (with only 85K on it) will not fit in the garage.

On the up side this means that I need to buy a new truck and the 03 quad cab short bed fits nicely in the garage This kills the wife's arugment about me needing a new truck because the house was her idea.

The down side is that I will need to go to a slider type fifth wheel hitch and this is new to me.

Anyone out there have experience with this type of hitch and could share their knowledge with me on what to buy and how well it works. I only need a 15K size hitch and I have a Reese now.

Regards

Rollie
 
I have a Reese slider in a short box and to tell you the truth, I have never used it in the pulled back position. I can turn to lock and the cab corner is about an inch from the trailer. Mine is mounted so when it is forward it is just slightly in front of the axle.



Good luck on the new truck.
 
Keep the Reese hitch you have and just get the sliding part for it.



I might be interested in a swap. I have a Draw-Tite slider and don't need it. It is the same hitch as the Reese.
 
Check out the Super Glide by Pull-Rite. They will send you a video if you e-mail them. I don't own a fifth wheel yet, but I'm planning on getting one.
 
I have the 25. 5 Superfifth by Pullrite and can certainly attest to the quality and heavy construction of their hitches. I had the chance to look at a Superglide on display and it is a neat piece of engineering. However if you already have a hitch and are careful on sharps turns while backing, it will probably do the job for you.



Good luck.



Glad they don't make me park my truck in the garage. I would move first rather than get rid of my dually.



Casey
 
Since you already have the hitch, the simplest and cheapest solution is to get the slider kit to go with it. We did this. It works well. Don't often need it, but when you need it you need it. By having it, in addition to the usual reasons, we were able to get a larger 5th wheel and still maneuver it in our limited driveway space.
 
You can use your Reese and convert it to a manual slider for about $100-125. but if you can aford it a 16K Superglide IS the way to go. I used one for years and loved it, if I were to get another short bed I'd get another Superglide.



" Buy a good hitch and if you have any money left over buy a trailer ;) "

-D. A. Hare, Airstream dealer (and Pull Rite dealer)



Fireman
 
Pullrite Super Glide

Pullrite Super Glide



Having just pulled my brand new 30' Cougar 5th wheel home from Mesa, AZ to Las Vegas with the Pullrite Super Glide 16K, I am compelled to chime in on this subject.



I've bumper pulled for a few years, but 5th-wheeling is new to me. I was extremely concerned, literally losing sleep, over fitting a 5th wheel to my short box 4x4. With 265 tires, the top of my tailgate stands 4' 10'' tall. I researched this board and many others searching for ideas and answers about my situation. I found that the owners of Pullrite automatic sliding hitches are unanimous in their positive support of this product. To a man, not one regret.



My trailer dealer, on the other hand, was not so keen on selling me this item. The part cost and the installation cost are considerably higher than standard non-slider and manual slider hitches. No trailer salesman wants to threaten a sale over the increased cost of a superior hitch. The line on manual sliders is, "all you have to do is get out and slide it when you might be (backing) into a tight turn situation. " Theoretically, that's great. Practically, that's a pain in the posterior. What if you misjudge that situation or just plain forget because you're busy trying to keep a handle on the situation? What if you're already in a bind and the thing won't slide?



I did not want to deal with any of this at the risk of damaging truck and trailer. The only downside to the Pullrite Super Glide is the price. My solution was to pay now for the insurance of avoiding those risks rather than possibly pay later for the damage, inconvenience and embarassment of the potential problem. Another plus with this hitch is that it mounts under the bed. If you and two of your best buddies decide to remove it, you'll have 4 silver-dollar sized holes in your bed, no rails or brackets.



There are a couple of limitations unique to this hitch that didn't come to light for me until I was commited, neither of which would have changed my mind.



1. A keyed king pin slider plate is mounted (could be screwed, they welded mine) on the king pin (trailer side). This locks the king pin to the hitch head which is critical to the automatic cam sliding action - hard to explain, not hard to understand when you see it. The point is, you'll never need any lube on your hitch head because the pin doesn't rotate like every other hitch. In other words, a trailer with the Super Glide keyed mounting plate is NOT compatable with any standard 5th wheel hitch! The king pin assembly can be replaced if it ever comes to that.



2. The other limitation is hook-up angle. It's a little more restrictive than standard hitches. Pullrite rates maximum angle for hitching/unhitching at 16-degrees. Again, manipulaing the hitch makes this easily understandable.



I am very happy with my decision. As a complete 5th-wheeler novice, after one technician supervised practice hitch/unhitch, I was able to hitch and unhitch all by my lonesome (wife supervised of course). Watching the thing in action on slow, tight turns and never seeing the trailer close enough to the cab to make me sweat is well worth it.



Good luck with your choice.

Neil





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Neil,



I contacted Pull Rite about welding the plate to my pinbox and was advised that it might not be a good idea. The reason, if anything happens to your truck nobody else would be able to tow your trailer with that plate welded on. I am glad I took their advice since I have traded trucks and now have a long bed. SO rlittle if you go this route, drill and tap your pinbox so the plate can be removed if nessecary.



Fireman
 
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I don't have the sliding hitch but recommend PullRite's quality and customer service. I really like my PullRite 20. 5 Super Fifth.



Dean
 
I have a Pull-Rite 16K & it is definately nice. The most important thing in determining whether you need your hitch to slide back is the pin location. Mine is right at the leading edge of the camper. A buddy has one that is about 1' ahead of the leading edge and he doesn't really need to slide the hitch in most circumstances.



Personally, with the wife & kids in the truck I have too many distractions already - I wanted a no brainer hitch.



If you get one I would mount the adapter plate with screws, not weld it on. If you ever need the camper towed with anything else you are hosed. Another option if you have many 5th wheels is a dealer plate. It goes on and off pretty quickly.
 
no welding

Fireman,



I agree about not welding. When I looked at the kit prior to install and saw all the screw holes, I had no idea the dealer would weld the damn thing. If I ever sell the trailer, I'll probably have to replace the pin plate and buy a new adapter for the Pullrite.



All that stuff's in the realm of possibility. In reality, actually pulling, turning and backing with the Pullrite is a joy!



Neil
 
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picture of SWB + 5th wheel

picture of SWB + 5th wheel

It's 30' 10" length, nominally 9500 lbs. , about 1500 lbs. pin weight, tows terrific. Tommorow I'm installing a Jacobs E-brake.
 
I hate to disagree

but the most important consideration is the distance from the hitch to the cab. This is usually less than 4' on a short bed truck, and since most 5w trailers are 8' wide the trailer would hit the cab in a jack knife situation regardless of how far ahead of the leading edge of the trailer the pin is. It is rare to have to turn that sharply and I try to avoid it when ever possible, but I have been forced to on occasion.

Fireman
 
Thanks for the information on the short box hitchs. Unfortunately the Pull Rite is a little to hard on the budget right now so I guess I will try to find a used hitch or maybe a switch with Ken Klenger per his Post.

Ken I will send you and E-mail Direct to your E-mail address.

Regards and thanks for the help.

Rollie
 
Try Hitch Trader. Com

That is where I sold mine. You will see them there regularly. Costs about $80 to ship (those things are heavy)



Fireman
 
Ken, please check you private messages on the TDR as I can not seem to get an E-mail thru to the E-mail address in your website.

Rollie
 
Rollie and I made the swap this evening. It appears the the Reese and Draw-Tite hitch parts are interchangeable. We just swapped Rollie's A-Frame supports for my slider assy and everything fit OK. As the indians say, ... "good trade".
 
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