Firearms Carried Into Canada

[HBarlow]

Gun-toting RVers fined $20,000 after border bust


Kelly Cauthorn posted on December 08, 2011 14:19

VANCOUVER, B. C. -- On Wednesday, two pistol-packing American senior citizens were fined $10,000 each for a July 11 incident. Their motorhome was searched at the Aldergrove border crossing by Canada Border Services Agency, revealing a small arsenal of undeclared firearms, reports the Vancouver Sun.

Sixty-four-year-old Danny Cross, of Texas, and his 70-year-old brother-in-law Hugh Barr told guards there were no weapons in their motorhome, but a search uncovered a shotgun, a derringer-type pistol, a cowboy-style six gun, and three semi-automatic pistols. All but the shotgun were loaded, reports the Vancouver Sun.

The two were accompanied by their wives and were on their way to Alaska to celebrate Cross's wedding anniversary, reports the Vancouver Sun. Instead, they ended up in jail for five days.

For the complete story from the Vancouver Sun, click here

This is a cut and paste from RV Daily News blog.

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This could be a good reminder for some of us who are accustomed to carrying a weapon in an RV. Canadians are very serious about weapons.

 

[The patriot]

Who dont travel with a loaded shotgun anymore?



Canada has oil, we should just annex it.

JM. 02

 

[BIGNASTY]

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First of all unless it has changed handguns in Canada are a NO NO. I did transport one in 1976 across they ran a cable with a lead plug on both ends of the barrel. They asked where I was going to leave Canada, I was going into MI Detroit. They said that I better not get caught leaving anyplace other than that. And the seals had better not be broken. Ya follow their rules and ya have no problem. And it sounds like these 2 just flat out lied to them so what so you expect.

 

[Regcabguy]

I'm sure there were prominent sighs warning against entering Canada with guns as there are at the Mexican border.



The difference for ignorance is you go to jail in Mexico. They got off easy in Canada.

 

[MChildress]

I know a lot of people who traveled in and through Canada and never claimed their firearm and never had a problem but the law was always there. Sounds like they are tightening up with a zero tolerance policy. I will just scratch Canada off my list of places to go now. Really starting to get closer to where only criminals carry guns very sad.

 

[Gonzo 1066]

I know a lot of people who traveled in and through Canada and never claimed their firearm and never had a problem but the law was always there. Sounds like they are tightening up with a zero tolerance policy. I will just scratch Canada off my list of places to go now. Really starting to get closer to where only criminals carry guns very sad.

I live within 1/2 mile of the Canadian border (on the south side) and I disagree with your sad statement. Canada IS a different country, traveling through it is NOT a US citizen right. It is a privilege, WE as US citizens have no right to impose our ideas of freedom on foreign soil. If Canadian law states that they don't allow firearms across their borders that is the law of THIER land. Just as we US citizens guard our laws and our country, Canada has the right to do exactly the same thing. I am not trying to ruffle any feathers, I drag race in Canada and because of this I strictly obey ALL of the laws in that country. This I do out of simple courtesy and respect for that fine country. IMHO



P. S. The Canadian border crossing guards take their job VERY seriously, this is not the place to start lying or cracking jokes. Because of 9-11 everything has changed, If I treat the officers with respect and honesty I am in return treated well.

 

[SRay]

I live within 1/2 mile of the Canadian border (on the south side) and I disagree with your sad statement. Canada IS a different country, traveling through it is NOT a US citizen right. It is a privilege, WE as US citizens have no right to impose our ideas of freedom on foreign soil. If Canadian law states that they don't allow firearms across their borders that is the law of THIER land. Just as we US citizens guard our laws and our country, Canada has the right to do exactly the same thing. I am not trying to ruffle any feathers, I drag race in Canada and because of this I strictly obey ALL of the laws in that country. This I do out of simple courtesy and respect for that fine country. IMHO



P. S. The Canadian border crossing guards take their job VERY seriously, this is not the place to start lying or cracking jokes. Because of 9-11 everything has changed, If I treat the officers with respect and honesty I am in return treated well.

Gonzo 1066: I fully agree with your above post. Thanks for saying Canada is a fine country! I enjoyed my trip to Indiana this summer for the TDR rally and Cummins Plant tour.



I too respect America with courtesy and honesty as well and the border people on both sides were just doing their job regarding the laws of both countries and I was treated nicely by everyone.

 

[mwilson]

I live within 1/2 mile of the Canadian border (on the south side) and I disagree with your sad statement. Canada IS a different country, traveling through it is NOT a US citizen right. It is a privilege, WE as US citizens have no right to impose our ideas of freedom on foreign soil. If Canadian law states that they don't allow firearms across their borders that is the law of THIER land. Just as we US citizens guard our laws and our country, Canada has the right to do exactly the same thing. I am not trying to ruffle any feathers, I drag race in Canada and because of this I strictly obey ALL of the laws in that country. This I do out of simple courtesy and respect for that fine country. IMHO



P. S. The Canadian border crossing guards take their job VERY seriously, this is not the place to start lying or cracking jokes. Because of 9-11 everything has changed, If I treat the officers with respect and honesty I am in return treated well.

Agree as well. It is a different country and I will do as they ask anytime that I cross.

If you are not sure about something you can call them and ask prior to your trip. Also a few rules change from year to year.

I have crossed enough at one location so I can now joke with them a bit, but that does not give me license to lie or cheat.

Besides I am probably going to be standing next to them the next day at some function at the Provincial Park.....



A great country, plus if you get the chance while over there watch their news on TV.

It will give you a new slant on the USA. CBC doesn't pull any punches... ... .....



Mike.

 

[The patriot]

I've never crossed with guns.

I HAVE crossed nearly blind drunk. With a 1/2 keg beer in the back of the van... . a window van.

No problem.

That was about 1980.

That was one he** of a night!

 

[Road Dog]

Pistol Packing Seniors Fined $20,000

They got busted for lying about having firearms. Bringing them into Canada is just paperwork. If I was caught with a firearm in the US I'd be shipped off to Guantanamo Bay. The American Government is completely anal about non-Americans having guns or gun parts or ammunition.

Americans come up all the time for shooting competitions & hunting. Some even have a [Canadian] PAL (possession & acquisition license).

 

[Tractorat]

It takes filling out a short form and $50 to take a hunting rifle into Canada. (or thats what it was last time I crossed the border).



When you go into Canada, you are going into another country that has their own laws that they get to have regardless of who you think you are. If one is so brain dead stupid as to not ask the question before going into another country, then I support the seizure of their guns. They are too dangerous to handle them responsibly.

 

[ringneck]

if they cant have guns,their not free.

 

[Bill Stockard]

In the late 70s I carried my 12-gauge pump shotgun into Canada. I declared it and the ammunition at the border, did the paper work, and paid a small fee. They asked me to seal it if I went into a national/provincial park which I did at the first park I entered. I checked it at the border when I passed back into the US at a different CA Port of Entry than I entered. No problems at all.



Bill

 

[Gonzo 1066]

if they cant have guns,their not free.

So you actually think that Canadians DONT have guns?? Just do a little investigation before showing how much you dont know.

 

[SRay]

Ringneck: We don't need guns to be free.

 

[NIsaacs]

Back in the mid 70's I was hauling logs in northwest Montana real close to the Canadian border. So one Sunday afternoon my wife and I decided to go to Canada just so we could say we been there, we went to the nearest town and had an ice-cream cone.



The Canada side was a piece of cake but the return to the US side was a rude experience. Just about like Arizona when you enter a port with a truck



Nick

 

[RustyJC]

if they cant have guns,their not free.

Canadians have every right to run their country the way they want to. Americans seem to think they have the right to project their laws and customs into every country they visit - no wonder we have the Ugly American reputation!



I've traveled internationally on business for some 40 years, and those who do so learn pretty quickly that, when in someone else's country, we had best adhere to their laws and customs whether we agree with them or not. Mexico City or Caracas ain't Toledo, Ohio boys, and they really don't care how we run things in America.



An American's FREEDOM vis-a-vis another country is pretty much limited to the decision to visit there or not.





Rusty

 

[HBarlow]

I like Canada and enjoy visiting. This summer I rode my Goldwing along the west side of Lake Superior up through Minnesota, crossed into Canada at Grand Portage and rode around the lake back to Sault Ste. Marie. It was a great trip.

Canadian officials haven't asked me my opinion of their customs and laws yet so I assume they like it the way they run it and don't need my approval.

In summer of 2003 I pulled an Avion to Alaska and back. Entered and reentered Canada many times visiting the small Alaskan towns along the Pacific Coast. Seeing Texas license plates they studied my eyes and facial expressions carefully each time they asked me about weapons and sometimes asked the question more than once but never gave me a hard time.

When I reentered ND via a dirt backroad somewhere in the middle of nowhere the US Customs apparently thought I was a smuggler or outlaw and inspected the inside of my trailer. The jackass made me throw away a small package of ground beef I used to supplement my female German Shepherds dry dog food.

During the time I was transporting trailers for hire I made many deliveries into Canada. Canadian customs were always easy to get along with. BC DOT was not so easy. They frowned on my failure to buy permits. I got away with it many times but got caught and paid a $70 or $100 fine. I got caught one more time after that but talked my way out of the ticket by convincing the DOT cop I was going to buy the permit at the scale which was ahead on my route. I had not planned to and he knew it but he checked the computer and saw that I had bought a permit once before so he gave me a break. Not a bad guy, just doing his job.

 

[mwilson]

Canadian officials haven't asked me my opinion of their customs and laws yet so I assume they like it the way they run it and don't need my approval.

Spoken like a true Mainer... ... ... ... ...



That is exactly what my father would say... .



Mike.

 

[mwilson]

When I reentered ND via a dirt backroad somewhere in the middle of nowhere the US Customs apparently thought I was a smuggler or outlaw and inspected the inside of my trailer. The jackass made me throw away a small package of ground beef I used to supplement my female German Shepherds dry dog food.

I too have been a victim of ground round impoundment, it took me a couple of episodes before I got it figured out... ...



They are completely freaked out by raw meat but that is only to try to keep disease out, it also happens with potatoes and other veg at certain times of the year.



What the Customs Agents told me was to keep the meat in the wrapper, so that the stores stamp is on the packaging. If is is marked with a sticker from a US store that makes it OK to bring it back in as it originated in the US to start with and has already been inspected in the past.



Even if it is in your freezer.



If it is already cooked, forget it 'cause it is headed for a trash can.



A search of your RV is pretty much mandatory now, I am searched everytime I reenter the US.



Now some searches are more thorough than others, 2 of the agents have CTD's, another one wants one so sometimes the search is only five minutes long and the Ram discussion takes another 25 minutes. :-laf



The Mega Cab is not a low profile vehicle when any Ram fan spots it.

It would be a poor choice for a smuggling vehicle... ...



We all make it appear very serious, gotta' make sure the populace knows they are being protected at all times.



They are simply doing a job, some are tougher than others. The main thing is follow the rules to the best of your abilities and you will be fine.



Mike.