Firearms Carried Into Canada

[mwilson]

I have to share this, then I will quiet down. .



One Sunday the wife, Buddy the wonder dog and I were pulling up to the US entry point and noticed 6 or 7 agents and 1 drug sniffing (or ground round sniffing) German Shepherd lined up against the front of the Customs House.



I told the bride that this may take a few minutes, do we have any beef to toss to the Shepherd, I would much rather he got it than the trash can... .



As we are pulling by the line of officers the Shepherd starts barking at us, I tell Sandy that we are going to need a lot of hamburg, I don't like the looks of this...



The right hand window was down and we plainly hear the officer next to the dog handler say

"That's quite a dog you've got there, Bill. He's barking at the Cougar on the side of that frigin' camper!!":-laf



I laughed for 10 minutes.



Mike.

 

[Bill Weber]

3 years ago crossed into Canada 4x in 4 days near Vancouver. They saw my Texas plates and asked several questions about guns. All light heartily. No problems. Last sumer going to Alaska we were asked if we had any guns - we didn't. Coming back through - same thing.

We had friends that have been searched every time. They too were from TX. Seems a TX plate is a big red flag to Canadians. Why we were not searched I don't know. Maybe an old couple with 2 Labs in the back seat didn't look too dangerous. Also, these are people just doing their job. Be friendly to them.

 

[The patriot]

if they cant have guns,their not free.

I'm probably the most pro 2nd person here, but Canada done have a Constitution that guarantees the 2nd amendment. AFAIK.



I'm no expert at Canadian laws, but I do know theyre "allowed" to own a lot of guns that have been banned here in the US by George Bush.

 

[RustyJC]

I'm probably the most pro 2nd person here, but Canada doesn't have a Constitution that guarantees the 2nd amendment. AFAIK.

No offense intended, but isn't the above what you intended to type instead of "done"?



Rusty

 

[Bill Stockard]

I've traveled internationally on business for some 40 years, and those who do so learn pretty quickly that, when in someone else's country, we had best adhere to their laws and customs whether we agree with them or not. Mexico City or Caracas ain't Toledo, Ohio boys, and they really don't care how we run things in America.

Rusty

Yep, when I traveled overseas on business, I too followed and respected the rules and regulations of that country. I was a guest and acted accordingly.



Everywhere I went, and especially in the UK, as soon as they found out I was from Texas, I always got questions about life my home state.



Bill

 

[RustyJC]

Everywhere I went, and especially in the UK, as soon as they found out I was from Texas, I always got questions about life my home state.

Yep, me too. Back in the late 1970s when "Dallas" was on TV, I was in a hotel restaurant one Sunday night in Coventry. When my waiter asked where I was from and I told him, "Texas", the next thing I knew everyone from the restaurant manager to the chef and dishwasher were around my table wanting to hear my accent and to ask questions about Texas. I'm glad I was one of the few people in the restaurant because I guess I shut the sucker down. :-laf



One of our customers was an old Scotsman who was a manager of Shell's North Sea operations in Shell Expro's Aberdeen office. He was a country music fan, and I always had to get an order from him before I would come over so that I could purchase and bring him the CDs he couldn't get in Scotland.



Rusty

 

[Shadrach]

It's always interesting when you find out that something is "different" in another country when you take it for granted in your own. I'm a Canuck and I don't own a gun - although lots of my coworkers do. Sometime I have to laugh at how serious some American are about guns. Then I read about the restriction on vehicles in California and I'm shocked about the lack of "freedom " they have. A few years ago when I flew to Florida and needed gas for the rental car I couldn't pay at the pump because I couldn't enter a "zip code", so I had to go and prepay even though I had no idea how much fuel the rental would take. Just another one of those things that was different than I was used too. I guess we just get used to things being a certain way.



When in Rome do as the Romans do.



Shad

 

[HBarlow]

It's always interesting when you find out that something is "different" in another country when you take it for granted in your own. I'm a Canuck and I don't own a gun - although lots of my coworkers do. Sometime I have to laugh at how serious some American are about guns. Then I read about the restriction on vehicles in California and I'm shocked about the lack of "freedom " they have. A few years ago when I flew to Florida and needed gas for the rental car I couldn't pay at the pump because I couldn't enter a "zip code", so I had to go and prepay even though I had no idea how much fuel the rental would take. Just another one of those things that was different than I was used too. I guess we just get used to things being a certain way.

When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Shad

Shad,

Yes, you're right. KA, NY, MA, and possibly a couple of other US states lag behind the former Soviet Union in government oppression but they're working on it. Many of our citizens can't give up our freedoms fast enough. Take a look at the _______ that occupies our WH.

 

[The patriot]

No offense intended, but isn't the above what you intended to type instead of "done"?



Rusty

Yes. Thanks. The 4yo is all over me like a cranked out monkey. :-laf

 

[The patriot]

Harvey, dont forget NJ.

 

[Bill Stockard]

Yep, me too. Back in the late 1970s when "Dallas" was on TV, I was in a hotel restaurant one Sunday night in Coventry. When my waiter asked where I was from and I told him, "Texas", the next thing I knew everyone from the restaurant manager to the chef and dishwasher were around my table wanting to hear my accent and to ask questions about Texas. I'm glad I was one of the few people in the restaurant because I guess I shut the sucker down. :-laf

Rusty

Yep, it was fun to be in the UK during "Dallas" TV series. When the Brits heard me talk and asked if I was from Texas and then ask where in Texas and I would tell them "the Dallas area" (Our IH dealership was in McKinney and I lived between McKinney and Frisco, both about 25 miles north of Dallas, but they wouldn't have a clue where that was. ). I could quickly attract a crowd around my table. The TV series was filmed near McKinney and both ranches where "Dallas" was filmed were our customers. The International tractor in shown plowing a field in the introduction of each show was owned by one of our customers. The big oil well fire that was in one of the episodes was staged so close to our house, we could hear the old oil storage tanks blowing up. I could go on and on...



Bill

 

[mwilson]

You didn't tell the ladies that your name was "J. R. Stockard" or anything like that did you????



Just curious... 'cause I would have been tempted to... if it wasn't for my Maine accent anyways... .

A Maine "Ayuh" would not carry the weight of a Texas "Ma,am"...



Mike

 

[Bill Stockard]

You didn't tell the ladies that your name was "J. R. Stockard" or anything like that did you????



Just curious... 'cause I would have been tempted to... if it wasn't for my Maine accent anyways... .

A Maine "Ayuh" would not carry the weight of a Texas "Ma,am"...



Mike

Nope, I remained truthful... no tall Texas tales. I never met any of the Ewings. I stayed away when the filming was going on. I had better things to do.



Bill

 

[Gonzo 1066]

IH question

Nope, I remained truthful... no tall Texas tales. I never met any of the Ewings. I stayed away when the filming was going on. I had better things to do.



Bill

So Bill Do you still have the IH dealership?? Just wondering , I am a IH collector and Tractor puller. .

 

[Bill Stockard]

So Bill Do you still have the IH dealership?? Just wondering , I am a IH collector and Tractor puller. .

I retired from the dealership in '93. At that time we mainly were a truck dealer and had previously canceled the CaseIH contract. When we canceled the CaseIH contract, it left only one dealer in Texas selling what was once the full line of IH products. Our Ag division also had the Ford/NewHolland contract. I didn't sell Ag equipment during the 23 years I worked there; however, I worked with the Ag salesmen when I had a customer who wanted Ag equipment.



The dealership was sold in '96, to the International truck dealer in Dallas. They sold off the Ford/New Holland contract to the Dallas Ford/New Holland dealer, remodeled the building, and used the Ford/New Holland parts and service area for truck service. It has been strictly an International truck dealership since mid '96 and they've been very succesful with it.



Bill

 

[Roscoe14]

As an officer that works at the border (U. S. Side), I can tell you that my Canadian counterparts work as we do... law abiding citizens are not penalized for ignorance or for being misinformed. The declaration process is two-fold, you fill out the written declaration, and then an officer verbally goes over each question again to give you a chance to ammend it. The were obviously aware of the "no handgun" laws in Canada and were hoping not to get searched. We see it all day long... ... . if it's prohibited and you declare it, you're just turned around to store it before proceeding into Canada. If it's prohibited and you hide it..... well... you have a nice pair of new laceless sneakers courtesy of the B. C. gov't when you get out of jail!! Safe travels. .

 

[HBarlow]

As an officer that works at the border (U. S. Side), I can tell you that my Canadian counterparts work as we do... law abiding citizens are not penalized for ignorance or for being misinformed. The declaration process is two-fold, you fill out the written declaration, and then an officer verbally goes over each question again to give you a chance to ammend it. The were obviously aware of the "no handgun" laws in Canada and were hoping not to get searched. We see it all day long... ... . if it's prohibited and you declare it, you're just turned around to store it before proceeding into Canada. If it's prohibited and you hide it..... well... you have a nice pair of new laceless sneakers courtesy of the B. C. gov't when you get out of jail!! Safe travels. .

Roscoe,

It's always good to hear the facts from someone who is actually a member of the profession.

Some of our fellow Americans have a tough time grasping the concept that our customs, traditions, laws, constitution, and preferences do not apply when we cross the border into another country.

 

[CUMMINZ]

I won't tell what border crossing this was but about 2 years ago my wife and I with conceiled carry permits were carrying a glock in the DC compartment between the 2 front seats while driving across north US with RV. At 10pm after a 10 hour drive our GPS told us to make a right turn to get to the RV park and we found ourselves in the middle of the US/CA border crossing and could not turn around. The US side border agent told us to simply drive across and CA would just turn us around. The last question when we arrived was DO you have any weapons? I looked at my wife and said yes. The guard simple said get out of the truck and show me where it is and he took it and put it in an evidence bag and placed it in my truck tool box. This was June 2nd. and 2 days after the new US laws about papers to get back in. They turned us around and when we got back to the US side there were 10 border agents that walked up to my truck. After 2 hours of abuse and telling me I was going to jail for 7 years and to make a long story short, when I pulled out of the stall and the rear of my RV hit an iron pole and did $13,000. 00 worth of damage to my RV. Short story they let me go and I when I got home called my congressman and reported it to him about the abuse. He hand dilivered my complaint along with his to the Secretary's office in Washington. After 5 months he got a letter of appology from Homeland Security telling me the agents violated my rights. End of story.



The CA agents were sweet and the US side were *****.

 

[Alaskaskiff]

I have frequently crossed the border legally with declared firearms. I have almost always found the Canadians to be easy to deal with. I do have a CA firearms permit called a PAL. I have rarely found the same from the US agents even though I worked for DHS as well. Sorry, and no disrespect to Roscoe, but my hands down worst experience was recently at the Bellingham crossing while trying to register a gun while still in the US and getting ready to go through Canada so that re-entry would not be in question with respect to ATF importation law. CBP needs to slow down and get some people skills.

 

[BruteForce]

I crossed the Canadian border a few times. I told the Canadian agent that I had a pistol and was suddenly surrounded by at least 10x agents. They took possession of my pistol, gave me paperwork and walked it to their guard house.

I was told I could get it back upon return to the States. . which I did.

The reaction of the Canadians was pretty comical. You would have thought that I was bringing an Abrams tank across.