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2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Fitment problems with DSS and 3rd Gen Trackbar

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I spent the big bucks for both the DSS steering box support and the adjustable 3rd Gen trackbar conversion, with bracket, for my '96.



The DSS was a very poor fit. The frame holes, even though slotted, would not allow for centering the bearing support under the steering sector. Worse yet, the bearing support was @ 1/4" too high and would not allow the bearing to be bolted onto it before bottoming against the extended pitman nut shoulder.



I had to cut the bearing support plate entirely off, mount the crossmember to the frame, then center the plate under the steering sector while also using some 3/8" steel plate to space it downward so the bearing saddle could bolt flat to it.



Sure, i could have tried to send the item back, but I ordered it long ago and was waiting for all my frontend parts before tearing into the truck. My time and opportunity to do these repairs and upgrades is very limited, so all the cutting, fitting, and welding was faster than waiting for another DSS, which might have the very same problems. Still, it took many hours; not the 'minutes' they say installation should take.



It now fits very well and is stronger than original. There is a slight problem with the stock '96 steering stabilizer on the y-style tierod/steering linkage hitting the DSS bearing saddle at full lock, despite having dropped the bearing support plate 3/8".



That is not a big concern since I seldom turn that tight and will soon have the T-style linkage and different style stabilzer shock and mount on the truck, too. I will make sure everything clears then.



The 3rd gen trackbar adapter plate, while thick and strong, is a poor fit to the contours of the Dodge frame. It leaves a large gap which allows the bracket to flex a great deal when turning the wheels.



I had to build an entirely new snowplow frame brace on the driver's side to accomodate the new trackbar adapter bracket. I left the bracket alone.



However, I can see no difference between allowing the bracket to continue to flex than allowing the trackbar bushings to be worn. It adds slop. And it will, IMO, cause the premature fatigue failure of the bracket and/or mounting bolts with possibly dangerous consequences.



So I see little choice but to bridge the gap between the frame and the bracket and weld it solidly to the frame. I don't plan to ever return to the 2nd gen junk trackbar setup, so that doesn't bother me.



What DOES bother me is the HUGE money they get for these items and the poor quality control that goes into building them.



This has been my experience. Your's may have been better. But I am not happy with the money spent, or the extra time and materials it took to make these items actually fit right and work right.



If it weren't for my extensive steel fabrication equipment and a good stock of steel, the installation would have been impossible for the DSS.



The development of these improvements was ingenious and much needed. For that I applaud the manufacturer. But if they wish to command such high prices, they should have much better quality control and fit.
 
Man that sucks! My DSS installed with no issues and I've read/heard the same about many others. I wonder if there's a chance yours was for another model.
 
I have installed many of these on different year trucks. Never had that kind of problem. Thw worst case scenario for me was to have to use a rat tail file for a couple minute. There is an certain tolerance the trucks will have from one to another but it sounds like you may have received the wrong version for your truck.



Bob
 
When it was first a matter of the slotted holes not being enough to allow alignment of the hole in the bearing support plate under the steering sector, I was thinking the same thing: Just file them out some more.



But when the hole in that bearing support plate was up too high and the bearing saddle would not seat against it before bottoming on the nut, I knew cutting the plate off and repositioning it was the only answer.



It was that 'double-whammy' that irritated me.



The DSS was purchased from PSC Motorsports, Allen Performance Resources in Azle, Texas. Who actually manufactured it is unknown... It cost $129. 95 plus $18. 00 shipping for $147. 95 total.



The 3rd Gen adjustable track bar and and the track bar conversion kit (a steel bracket and a few bolts) came from Source Automotive and was made by Solid Steel.



The flex allowed by that 'kit' bracket defeats the purpose of replacing the old, sloppy track bar.



The track bar was $315 and the 'kit' to mount it was another $185 for $520 total trackbar parts cost. Add $20 for shipping and I have $667. 95 in purchase costs alone for these poorly made items.



That is a lot of money for parts I have to go to such lengths to make fit and work right!



I would be interested to know if anyone else who has installed that SS track bar bracket has ever watched the bracket for flex while someone else turns the steering wheel back and forth? Mine flexes @1/4" or more.
 
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Did your stuff come from . ca or . biz? Two different company's. One is the original and the other is a spin off. I believe . biz is the original, and if you bought their adjustable track bar then that is Solid Steel Industrial (. biz) and you should have talked to them about your issues. Did you grind the old mount flat to mount the new bracket? On mine I just put a larger fender washer between the new bracket and the original mount and it has been installed for many years without a problem. That bolt has to be really tight, I think it was like 275 ft lbs.



While driving that bracket is not going to flex. While stopped turning wheel back and forth is putting extreme side pressures between the axle and frame. The bigger the tires the more pressure.



SNOKING
 
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You purchased the DSS from PSC, which is not made by Solid Steel Industries, they copied it from us and did a poor job in the process, the fitment problem you have with the PSC's product is common.



The Track Bar Conversion Kit you purchased from Source Automotive is manufactured by us ( Solid Steel ). There may be a little grinding on the existing track bar mounting lug to make the TBK fit properly, this varies from truck to truck. Also, not all mounting lugs are welded exactly in the same location/angle at the factory which can make it difficult to install the TBK.



That being said, we have had a couple instances where our TBK bracket was not manufactured to the precise tolerances we like. We had a minor glitch in the CNC programming that distorted the angles of the bends in the bracket. This problem was resolved quickly and we haven't had any problems since.



We stand behind our products, if it does not fit properly we will send you out a new one... . Or, if you are not happy with our products you can return them and get a full refund.

Let us know what we can do for you.



Regards,

Russell Tessier

Solid Steel

SolidSteel. biz - Home of the Dodge Steering Stabilizer
 
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I bought my DSS from PSC. While mine fit with only minor adjustments necessary, I was generally disappointed with the overall quality versus the price. Mine came with welding splatter under the paint and the bearing wouldn't fit over the nut. I left the paint as it was and I buffed the inside of the bearing with a sandpaper wheel on a die grinder until the nut fit. It wasn't a show stopper, but it just wasn't what I expected for the price or company reputaion for that matter.
 
One thing I see here with his install that I noticed right off the bat was his comment about the fit with his snowplow frame. I know personally from a friend who I talked into Solid Steel's parts after he drove mine that fitment with a plow frame in place is a problem. We ended up having to modify the plow frame to make the trac bar mount fit properly and he decided to just forget the DSS Brace until later in the Spring as it would never fit. He runs a Hiniker plow and needs his stuff ready now so we will address it later.



The Solid Steel parts on my truck(DSS Brace,3rd gen Trac Bar Kit and Lower Arms) were a bolt in fit with zero issues during the install. They have performed flawlessly and done all I have asked. I have only had minor issue with the Lower Arms since the install which was quickly resolved by Russell and EEP.



Great Parts from a great company which were worth every penny I spent on them... ... Andy



P. S. -BDaugherty...

You did see that in the above post you bought a copy and not the original right?
 
X 3 on the PSC. I was not happy with mine and had to torch the mounting holes on the passenger side to get it on. I could have spent 3 hours with a file, but the torch was much faster. I need over 1/4 inch to fit the passenger side bolts. I do have the adjustable track bar and mount from DSS. They went on perfectly and I love them.
 
One thing I see here with his install that I noticed right off the bat was his comment about the fit with his snowplow frame. I know personally from a friend who I talked into Solid Steel's parts after he drove mine that fitment with a plow frame in place is a problem. We ended up having to modify the plow frame to make the trac bar mount fit properly and he decided to just forget the DSS Brace until later in the Spring as it would never fit. He runs a Hiniker plow and needs his stuff ready now so we will address it later.



The Solid Steel parts on my truck(DSS Brace,3rd gen Trac Bar Kit and Lower Arms) were a bolt in fit with zero issues during the install. They have performed flawlessly and done all I have asked. I have only had minor issue with the Lower Arms since the install which was quickly resolved by Russell and EEP.



Great Parts from a great company which were worth every penny I spent on them... ... Andy



P. S. -BDaugherty...

You did see that in the above post you bought a copy and not the original right?



I did see that and my comment was intended to show that the copy is hastily made and not worth paying the same money as what the original cost. However, I repaired my steering pre-TDR membership so I only had my own experience and internet research to guide me. Knowing what I know now, my next steering mods will be the lower bushing repair and Luke's links anywhere that my linkage develops slop.
 
Lukes Link...

Thats a been there,done that T-Shirt I had and will never do again.

Nothing more than a small band aid trying to cover a deep cut and doing a poor job of it.
 
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Lukes Link...

Thats a been there,done that T-Shirt I had and will never do again.

Nothing more than a small band aid trying to cover a deep cut and doing a poor job of it.



Well, you may be right but its a band aid that has stuck for over three years on my 96. It did its job well and is still working well. Oh ya, I still haven't needed to adjust it yet.



Floyd
 
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