Frequency of filter changes on the FASS?

[steved]

First, not draining your water separator is just stupid... I suppose you would blame the FASS if you sucked a bunch of water into the IP?



I didn't say that I was blaming anything on the FASS, all I was looking for was some direction on what might be causing the noise, which I got from Dan.

You response was a lot of help though

My response was exactly correct... like I stated in a previous post... you can tell someone to do something and them actually doing it are two different things... you are a good example... the FASS states to drain it every 500 miles IIRC... you haven't drained it is 20k?? Do you hate your truck?



steved

 

[ROADWARRIOR]

Diesel Dan,



Where might I be able to find and view "service topic" 2005-002?



Thanks,

Dan

 

[DLBurns]

My response was exactly correct... like I stated in a previous post... you can tell someone to do something and them actually doing it are two different things... you are a good example... the FASS states to drain it every 500 miles IIRC... you haven't drained it is 20k?? Do you hate your truck?



steved

1300+ posts in less than a year... I guess I should be humbled by your vast knowlege of all things mechanical.

If I had the orignal paperwork on the FASS I might have been able to read what it said. And since it has been making this noise since day one I am quite sure it has nothing to do with the WS filter.

I don't hate my truck, I hate a--holes like you who make rude responses to posts from people just looking for an answer to a question.

 

[LowFly]

Diesel Dan,



Where might I be able to find and view "service topic" 2005-002?



Thanks,

Dan

Help me out here..... where did you read this..... and i might be able to point you in the correct direction... ... . might be a referance to our older trouble shooting manual.....





DLBurns,



Just add some salt... . he means well..... these computers sometimes don't translate what we really "Mean" to say and it sometimes comes across harsher than wanted... ... ... when i get in a rush..... i have been guilty! :-laf We are all friends here!#ad

 

[DLBurns]

You are right Dan, and my apologies if I over reacted to Steve's post.

I have gained a wealth of knowledge on this site and I owe all of the members a debt of gratitude.

Thanks for helping to set me straight.

Dave

 

[ROADWARRIOR]

Diesel Dan,



It was referenced to in the troubleshooting manual I found online in section 3b. It said to refer to this "service topic" for sticking brushes.



Thanks,

Dan

 

[steved]

1300+ posts in less than a year... I guess I should be humbled by your vast knowlege of all things mechanical.

If I had the orignal paperwork on the FASS I might have been able to read what it said. And since it has been making this noise since day one I am quite sure it has nothing to do with the WS filter.

I don't hate my truck, I hate a--holes like you who make rude responses to posts from people just looking for an answer to a question.

Yes, 1300 post in a year... thank you very much for pointing that out, I didn't even realize that until now. Read some of my threads, I don't post for the fun of it... a good percentage of my posts actually mean something...



While I don't know as much as some of these guys, I can hold my own on most topics.



And if you haven't drained the WS, how do you know IT isn't your restriction??? It might be completely full of crud. Mine had a good amount of junk in it within the first two tanks, not to mention all the sand I have drained out of it in recent...



But this is just another useless post/thread of mine to post-***** it up... has no meaning, no information... so why did you read it? :-laf



steved

 

[steved]

I hate a--holes like you who make rude responses to posts from people just looking for an answer to a question.

Oh, and another rude response would be: "check your fuel pressure lately?"



I found that running the FASS at higher than needed pressures also causes excessive noise (mine came to me running 25psi)... changing that to a 12 or even my current 15psi setup (Thanks again Dan!!) really quieted the thing up... if you don't need 25psi, don't run 25psi... run what you need.



Or, have you checked the pickup in the tank? It might be plugged...



Mine started noisey and has continually gotten quieter... I also have over 30k on mine too... it currently isn't much louder than the OEM pump.



But, this might be construed as another post of useless information again... I'd better delete it... you wouldn't want it anyway.



steved

 

[LowFly]

Diesel Dan,



It was referenced to in the troubleshooting manual I found online in section 3b. It said to refer to this "service topic" for sticking brushes.



Thanks,

Dan

Did some digging..... i beileve that "Service Topic" was a refernace to a dealer e-mail... . SO I went looking in our data base... and found it! Here it is:

SERVICE TOPICS

File No. 2005-002​

Applies to FASS 150 fuel systems serial numbers 2024 – 3246 and serial numbers 100 – 203 for the FASS HPFP’s



Subject: Motor not running due to ground brush sticking



We have been receiving complaints about the motor on some of our system’s not running. This is after diagnosing that there is power and a good ground supplying the motor. Some of these customers have lightly tapped on the motor, while the power was on, and the motor started running. This has been only happening to our knowledge on the 24 Valve Dodge Cummins.



We believe this is due to a poor ground thru the ECM, we have discovered (with the help of one of our dealers) that on some of the Dodge ECM’s there is a high resistance on the ground side of the factory fuel pump wire harness. This is what we believe is causing the ground brush to stick. To help with this problem we have incorporated another ground wire into our wire harness for the 24 Valve Dodge’s. This ground wire is connected to the negative terminal on the battery.



Our Suggestions:



Make sure you have proper/clean ground. If you have a 24 Valve Dodge Cummins and the wire harness you have only plugs into the ECM for the power/ground source we suggest you solder in another ground wire and connect it to the negative post on the battery. The green wire in our harness is the ground wire; this would be a good place to attach another ground wire. While you’re performing this suggestion, remove the fuse several times, this will clean the contacts of the fuse holder, and before installing a new fuse (15amps) apply some di-electric grease to the fuse holder. This can prevent problems down the road.



Our Solutions:



For everyone that has sent in their product registration form along with a copy of their purchase receipt (you have to send those two items in to qualify for the warranty) we will be sending out a new ground brush and two new brush caps. Please replace the old brush caps with the new ones. The new ones have o’rings to make sure they will not back out and they will seal better. Instructions will accompany the hardware. This is for FASS fuel systems serial numbers 2024 – 3246 and serial numbers 100 – 203 for the FASS HPFP’s



Thank you,



Brad Ekstam

These brushes have already been sent out over a year ago... . so don’t contact me if you didn’t get them. haha.....



TO ADD: I also found in my personal testing, the metal Cap on the end of the brush spring will become corroded. ALSO the brush slides will do the same. This is what i have found that works very well. Clean the brush "Contact Tab" with a Scotch Brite Pad. Make it shine! THEN cut a strip about 1/4" wide and about 4-5" long. Stick that strip in a cordless drill. Insert the cut strip in the brush recess and operate the drill in both the fwd and rev directions. This will clean the brush recess where the tab makes contact. This is just like you BATT terminals... the cleaner the better! THEN when you reinstall the caps, put a small amt of silicone on the threads to keep moisture out.



I had a motor here that would not run at all. I did this fix, and ran it for 2 days under full load with no issue. Just a hint for those with the

older motors.

 

[DLBurns]

Oh, and another rude response would be: "check your fuel pressure lately?"



I found that running the FASS at higher than needed pressures also causes excessive noise (mine came to me running 25psi)... changing that to a 12 or even my current 15psi setup (Thanks again Dan!!) really quieted the thing up... if you don't need 25psi, don't run 25psi... run what you need.



Or, have you checked the pickup in the tank? It might be plugged...



Mine started noisey and has continually gotten quieter... I also have over 30k on mine too... it currently isn't much louder than the OEM pump.



But, this might be construed as another post of useless information again... I'd better delete it... you wouldn't want it anyway.



steved

Apparently you are as stupid as you are rude... if you read MY post you would have seen that I run a constant 15PSI.

Sorry Dan, this guy really is an a-- hole!!!

 

[steved]

Apparently you are as stupid as you are rude... if you read MY post you would have seen that I run a constant 15PSI.

Sorry Dan, this guy really is an a-- hole!!!

Thank you for that compliment... at least I know my way around a FASS... and can figure stuff out on my own... I'm far from stupid... I might be rude, but that's only when provoked!



If your running 15psi and not cavitating... then it might just be noisey. I'm sure not all are noisey and not all are going to be quiet... or quiet up over time (since you say you already have 20k on it)... mine has progressively gotten quieter since new... I retract my 30k statement... that is on the filter itself... I have around 40k on the FASS currently... it only recently (last month or so) started quieting up some...



And have you checked ANY of the things that might be causing the problem mentioned already?? You know, the restricted pick-up? Plugged WS? Plugged filter?



If you think the FASS itself is noisey, have you considered placing a piece of rubber between the FASS mount and the truck's frame for a little isolation??



You started the name calling... I actually think it is pretty funny that you got as bent as you did over this! Oh, and one more thing: I've been called a lot worse by better people.



steved