Fuel milage

[Rattler]

Not to start a fire, but how does a 2010 6. 7 compare to the same truck with a 5. 7 Hemi as far as fuel use goes? I am looking to move up to a newer 2500 or 3500 crew cab 4x4 , and with fuel prices heading up again, i need to consider all choices. THanks for yuour opinions, Randy.

 

[Simplysmn]

yes the MPG stink's but where they really shine is Pulling you will leave the Hemi in the dust my best is 18 empty and loaded I can average 12 or better

 

[JLeake]

Mileage

I traded off a 1500 pickup and bought a 2500 CTD. My mileage for the 1500 Hemi (2006) for 70,000 miles was calculated 16. 5. The 1500 has MDS, and that was good for a couple of mpg below 65 on mine. Above 65 my mileage dropped about 2mpg. My CTD gets 16-17 on up to about 75mph as far as I can tell, lightly loaded.



Towing with my 1500 was really hard on mileage (as low as 10mpg), have not towed a whole tank with my CTD 2500. My CTD 2500 has less than 6000 miles on it now and the mileage keeps improving with more miles.



Hope tha thelps

 

[HBarlow]

If you are concerned about fuel mileage a gas engine pickup will not be your solution. A gas engine will provide slightly better fuel economy at steady highway cruise speed unloaded. Around town driving or pulling a trailer it will be no better and with a heavy trailer it will be worse.

Gas mileage is only a part of overall operating cost. Long term durability and resale value are also factors and an area where a gas engine will not compete.

 

[Rattler]

I know the reasons to own a CTD, i have owned my current truck sence December of 98. I was just looking for a comparison of fuel useage of the new 6. 7 trucks compared to a comparable truck ( 2500,3500) equiped truck with a Hemi.

 

[Jeff Knight]

You might want to check. I don't think the 2500/3500 cuts cylinders like the 1500 does. I would think the mileage would be different with the HD trucks compared to the 1500. Just thinking.



Jeff

 

[Rattler]

I don't know either Jeff. Hopefuly somebody that owns a late model Hemi in a heavy truck can chime in.

 

[JLeake]

The 2500 / 3500 Hemi's as I understand it do not have MDS.

 

[rscurtis]

I believe your are correct, but the new hemi's get the benefit of the 6-speed automatic.

 

[mopar paul]

I'll chime in here. Three days ago I bought a 2500 HEMI 4wd. When I first drive the truck I was really impressed with the power, and I just got rid of my 2005 with Edge box. SO, I bought the hipe of the HEMI. I towed with it once (6000lbs) and took it back today to trade in on a HO Cummins. I could not get better than 10. 4 mpg towing no matter how conservative I was. Even worse, I had to put in premium fuel to keep it from pinging on the hills, which negates the cost of fuel!! Even in town, it sucked fuel. After owning Cummins for the last 15 years I should have known better, but was trying to save a few $$$.

 

[Rattler]

Thanks Paul, thats the kind of imput that i was looking for.

 

[HBarlow]

I'll chime in here. Three days ago I bought a 2500 HEMI 4wd. When I first drive the truck I was really impressed with the power, and I just got rid of my 2005 with Edge box. SO, I bought the hipe of the HEMI. I towed with it once (6000lbs) and took it back today to trade in on a HO Cummins. I could not get better than 10. 4 mpg towing no matter how conservative I was. Even worse, I had to put in premium fuel to keep it from pinging on the hills, which negates the cost of fuel!! Even in town, it sucked fuel. After owning Cummins for the last 15 years I should have known better, but was trying to save a few $$$.

Paul,

I'm sorry to hear of your expensive mistake but grateful to you for sharing it. Personally, I know better having towed with a big block fuel injected Furd back in the '90s but some, like yourself, might be tempted to make the same mistake and will regret it. You did some TDR members and probably a few silent readers a huge favor by sharing your experience.

A lighter Ram 1500 with a gasoline V8 will accelerate strong when unloaded but it is a lousy substiture for a Cummins diesel for towing.

 

[mopar paul]

Well thanks. Having been a mechanic and car builder for 25 yraes (of Mopars with the Legendary 426 HEMI), I'm very loyal to Mopar. I appreciate good advice & honesty & wish I would have read such a post a week ago!! Take care all.

BTW The dealership is giving me full credit on my purchase towards the HO, so I'm a happy camper!

 

[CathyO]

If you are concerned about fuel mileage a gas engine pickup will not be your solution. A gas engine will provide slightly better fuel economy at steady highway cruise speed unloaded. Around town driving or pulling a trailer it will be no better and with a heavy trailer it will be worse.



Gas mileage is only a part of overall operating cost. Long term durability and resale value are also factors and an area where a gas engine will not compete.

Thanks for this informative post! By the way, To make vehicles that have six- and eight-cylinder motors more effective, more car businesses are fitting brand new automobiles with cylinder deactivation. It isn't a new technology, but it's a way to make a gallon go a little further. Get the credit car you need for your situation.

 

[Bill Stockard]

I know the reasons to own a CTD, i have owned my current truck sence December of 98. I was just looking for a comparison of fuel useage of the new 6. 7 trucks compared to a comparable truck ( 2500,3500) equiped truck with a Hemi.

Fuel mileage is only one factor when considering the total cost of ownership of a vehicle. There are other expenses that should be considered as well, i. e. duty cycle, fuel cost, maintenance costs, down time for required maintenance, depreciation, finance cost of the original price, etc.



Bill

 

[champspa]

I went over the Blue Ridge last year to a tractor pull , trailer and tractor weigh 16k so the total is 23. 5k . a friend who pulls near the same , just a little less, has a new ford gasser and drove that . he averaged 6mpg and with my old Dodge averaged 11. 1 . he said he could watch the needle go down when going over the mountains .

 

[EGroeneveld]

Not to start a fire, but how does a 2010 6. 7 compare to the same truck with a 5. 7 Hemi as far as fuel use goes? I am looking to move up to a newer 2500 or 3500 crew cab 4x4 , and with fuel prices heading up again, i need to consider all choices. THanks for yuour opinions, Randy.

I have a client with a 2012 CC 2500 hemi 4*4 shortbox and he claims 14-15 in mixed driving. Only tows a fifth wheel a few times a year. His towing mileage sucks but he is happy saving the 6K+ additional cost of the diesel option and less expensive maintenance on the Hemi.



I get 15MPG on my 2011 Diesel 4*4 Dually CC 4. 10 gears going downhill, with the wind running empty and no trailer. Mixed driving I'm closer to 12. I am hooked to a trailer every weekend and haul the camper for 45 nights of camping in 2012 alone. Fully loaded up with Truck camper and towing enclosed trailer with toys gets me 10mpg. I have been disappointed with the mileage of my diesel truck in comparison to my 2005 5. 9 Cummins.



I have the diesel for the towing and hauling duties. MPG between Hemi or diesel to me is pretty much pointless. You get a diesel if you want to tow a lot of weight comfortably and still get okay mpg. Todays gas motors for those who don't tow often make great choices. Todays gas motors are pretty amazing compared to ten short years ago. And if you could do the Hemi 1500 truck you could see 25mpg according to the ads

 

[rscurtis]

That 25 MPG rating is for a 2WD truck with the V6. The money "saved" on the initial purchase will be more than lost on resale. I would also want to see the calculations on your client's 2500 FE claims.

 

[EGroeneveld]

I'm not going to get into an arguement over it and frankly don't care.



My point is this. Many people live life perfectly happy with 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton gas powered trucks. Todays diesel trucks with all the smog stuff really don't get that great of mileage. You either need the diesel for towing and/or hauling or you don't. If you don't need the diesel for towing and hauling then you can be just fine and happy with a hemi powered 1500 or 2500. You can throw numbers around all you want but I really don't think the diesel mileage will ever pay for its self anymore. Even with the higher value ten years down the road. I know many people who have had issues with Ford 6. 0 and 7. 3 diesels, with GM diesels and yes even with the Dodge Cummins Trucks. I expect and see todays gas powered motors going 250K miles+ without issues. You have one turbo or injector issue and you've lost.



To me argueing about gas verse diesel is dumb. Get the diesel if you need it. Get it if you want it. Get a big 3500 dually for your little canoe if you want. You'd be hard pressed to justify with all the numbers over 300,000 miles if your just running on the hwy and never really tow or haul much. The diesel option costing more, the diesel fuel costing more, oil changes and fuel filters costing more just makes it harder... .

 

[HBarlow]

Well, tell us . . . if arguing about the merits of a gasoline powered truck is "dumb" why did you introduce it?

This is a Dodge-Cummins website. We appreciate the truck and the engine here. Are you trying to persuade us we should sell our trucks and buy some pos gas 1/2 ton? I doubt many here are interested in your argument.