Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting Glock or?

[BoeingDiesel]

I never really thought it would come to this but with the unrest and violence in today’s world I feel it’s absolutely necessary to get my wife a hand gun. I want her to take a couple courses in defensive, what if scenarios, type training etc. I don’t have much experience with handguns and mainly hunt waterfowl so I’m kind of at a loss in what would be a good choice. After doing some research I’m thinking maybe a Glock 19 or 23 might fit the bill but then I also read the other thread on the Millennium G2 9MM as well.
My wife and I shoot clays on a regular basis so she is no stranger to firearms but we know very little about pistols. Any suggestions or recommendations are greatly appreciated. We're going to a gun show on the 16th and I'm hoping that she'll be able to handle various weapons and see what fits for her.
Thanks
gregg

 

[WCPoe]

If you think you might get the Taurus then ---->

Make sure to check to see if your pistol is eligible for the rebate the Taurus has in effect until the end of the year. The Millenium G2 9mm and 40 blue model have a $50 rebate.

Here ---> http://www.taurususa.com/taurusonlinerebate.cfm

Purchase must be made between September 1, 2015 and December 31, 2015, and form must be postmarked by January 15, 2016 and received by January 30, 2016

 

[BaldwinScott]

I would also recommend the Taurus Millennium G2. My wife loves hers because it's not a heavy gun and she can handle and carry it very easily. I got her the 9mm because it doesn't kick as much as the 40. Also has a 12+1 capacity so it has a fair amount of firepower and is a lot cheaper than the Glock.

 

[jgillott]

Also take a look at the offerings from Smith & Wesson, Walther, Sig, etc. They all have a little different feel, safety design, etc. She will never know what she is comfortable with until she handles them.

 

[NIsaacs]

For a new handgun shooter I recommend a small revolver, they are simple and they work.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766342_-1_757768_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Nick

 

[BSeyler]

For a new handgun shooter I recommend a small revolver, they are simple and they work.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766342_-1_757768_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Nick

Great advice. My daughter is looking at getting a handgun to carry as she embarks on her career as a veterinarian. She's just a little nervous about going to a strange place on an emergency call at night by herself. She is an army vet, but did not receive any handgun training. This is one of the pistols we have looked at. Simple and reliable.

Bud

 

[WCPoe]

I posted this in the other thread but just in case you missed it.

Just an FYI ----------

For all those considering the Taurus Millenium G2 please go pick up the Jan 2016 issue of Shooting Illustrated. This issue has the G2 9mm on the cover and the Managing Editor, Daniel McElrath has a great reiview contained inside. Cliff Notes is that he thought it was a great gun at that price point. I could only find it in the hard copy. I imagine later the article will be online
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Also check this link on the American Rifleman site. ---> http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...2-9-mm-pistol/

Donj't forget the $50 rebate on this gun ends at the end of this year.

Good luck on your search.

 

[Mike Ellis]

I would also recommend a revolver for a new shooter. If her hands are pretty strong she may be able to adapt to a small semi-auto very easily, but those with weaker hands can find the slides very challenging to rack.

It would be well worth your money to visit a local gun store with an indoor pistol range, most of them will rent pistols and it is an easy and cheap way to test out a variety of handguns in a no-pressure environment. They will typically charge a by-the-hour fee that gives you access to the lane, and allow you to try out as many of their pistols as you like. Some of them will make you use their ammo and it is more expensive that way, but for $100 you can visit one of these places and run a mag or two through several pistols to see what she likes the best.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Go to a range that has guns for rent and see what works for the shooter, NOT WHAT SOMEBODY'S ADVICE IS !!!

 

[NIsaacs]

NOT WHAT SOMEBODY'S ADVICE IS !!!

I think advice was the OP's wish...

Nick

 

[BoeingDiesel]

Excellent advice from all of you… Thanks!

I was thinking a revolver is the way to go based on simplicity but she really wants a semi auto pistol. My bride isn’t a large woman but she is strong (probably the result of raising 4 boys and 2 girls) so I’m not too concerned that she’ll be able to handle it.
Something that does have me concerned is the California hand gun approved list and what “Moonbeam” will allow. The probable outcome will be a pistol that meets regs’ for the Ca. home and another that fits her best for Texas home.
As I mentioned we are going to a gun show in a couple weeks but I’m also going to take her to Fowlers tomorrow and have her handle some pistols…we’ll see where it goes from there.

I found this link… http://www.firearmstraining.com/... Looks like this outfit offers some excellent self defense courses, and the owner will be at the same gun show.

 

[ranger 393]

I don't know her level of experience, but if she does'nt have alot with a handgun, I would recommend a revolver. If she is ever put into situation where her life depends on it, she may draw a blank under stress and can't remember if there is one in the chamber, what do I have to do to fire it etc.... With a revolver all she has to do is point and shoot. Im not trying to be disrespectfull towards your wife, I can only speak for things I have seen, but with anything training is the key no matter what weapon you choose...

 

[BoeingDiesel]

I don't know her level of experience, but if she does'nt have alot with a handgun, I would recommend a revolver. If she is ever put into situation where her life depends on it, she may draw a blank under stress and can't remember if there is one in the chamber, what do I have to do to fire it etc.... With a revolver all she has to do is point and shoot. Im not trying to be disrespectfull towards your wife, I can only speak for things I have seen, but with anything training is the key no matter what weapon you choose...

Good point Ranger. As I mentioned she is excellent in handling a shot gun but no experience with a hand gun...if I have my druthers', it will be a revolver. There is one thing to consider tho'; a solid breech creates more recoil than a semi auto and I presume that could have an effect on follow up accuracy?

 

[ranger 393]

Good point Ranger. As I mentioned she is excellent in handling a shot gun but no experience with a hand gun...if I have my druthers', it will be a revolver. There is one thing to consider tho'; a solid breech creates more recoil than a semi auto and I presume that could have an effect on follow up accuracy?

This is true with both weapons, but this is where practice will help. If you "limp" wrist an auto there is a good chance the slide will not fully rack back causing a stove pipe , or not cycling another round in the chamber. At least with a revolver that next round will be cycled to the next round. Believe it or not but women are usually better shots than men.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

I've noticed a lot of women typically want small caliber side arms to begin with. As their confidence increases and the fear of heavier calibers subside, the light bulb comes on and they find that heavier side arms are easier shoot and more accurate.

My wife went from carrying a Lady's, light weight .38 special wheel gun to a compact .45 1911 within a short period.

 

[NIsaacs]

a solid breech creates more recoil than a semi auto and I presume that could have an effect on follow up accuracy?

If it is needed for personal protection it will be up close, probably can't miss. Any distance that requires accuracy will most likely allow for her to retreat or the perp to retreat, always a good thing.

Will this hand gun be multi use or personal protection only? For fun target shooting anything is possible or even several. Personal use has a narrow window, small, light weight, simple, easy to keep secure (kids or grand kids). You must be able to always have it handy, I recommend a fanny pack or purse carry, in the winter a jacket pocket is good. A hammerless revolver can be shot from here and not even be pulled out if necessary. I also recommend at least one speed loader and standard 38 loads, no +P stuff.

Nick

 

[AnOldBiker]

I'm sorry, I know I'm old and been out of the military for 4 decades, but last I knew, not one person can finish basic training (man or woman) without knowing, handling, and qualifying on rifles, handguns, frags and more.

What happened ?????

 

[BoeingDiesel]

If it is needed for personal protection it will be up close, probably can't miss. Any distance that requires accuracy will most likely allow for her to retreat or the perp to retreat, always a good thing.

Will this hand gun be multi use or personal protection only? For fun target shooting anything is possible or even several. Personal use has a narrow window, small, light weight, simple, easy to keep secure (kids or grand kids). You must be able to always have it handy, I recommend a fanny pack or purse carry, in the winter a jacket pocket is good. A hammerless revolver can be shot from here and not even be pulled out if necessary. I also recommend at least one speed loader and standard 38 loads, no +P stuff.

Nick

This would be for personal protection and recreational shooting. As I mentioned earlier, we do trap and skeet together and I have to say, she outshoots a lot of us guys. My intention is to add another level of security to her everyday life and it’s not as though she travels into any dangerous areas, but these days a trip to the mall or grocery store can have bad consequences. There are so many options available I can see many trips to the range on the horizon.
thanks
gregg

 

[BIGNASTY]

I think advice was the OP's wish...

Nick

Again Chop and cut what was REALLY SAID and the intent in which it was sent to conform to what you want it to be. Ever wonder why so many of the folks that WERE ON THIS SITE ARE GONE.

BD this was the message before it was Butchered.
Go to a range that has guns for rent and see what works for the shooter, NOT WHAT SOMEBODY'S ADVICE IS !!!

The advice was meant to let the intended shooter make the decision ive never seen a person know what they want in a defensive weapon IF THEY HAVE NEVER FIRED ONE

Hope it works out for you BD I feel that we all should be packing.

BIG

 

[BIGNASTY]

BD

Went to find info or this would have been posted on my other rant!!


http://www.nrainstructors.org/Search.aspx

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION FOLKS

A gun show is the LAST place that I would take a newbie to look at pistols, if its the flyby night Great Western Gun shows that pelage the firearms community. There are some shows that are for dealers but lets safely assume that THEY ALREADY know what they want and are doing. People at Gun Shows are there for only ONE THING SELL GUNS AND ? they really don't care what works for you.

When I thought that I would teach Penny how to shoot handguns because I was the ALL KNOWING AUTHOURITY on such things I couldn't have been further from the truth. I have MANY types and calibers of handguns, we took them out and she couldn't hit a C5 with a revolver if she was inside the thing. I gave her my 1911 of course it was a 45 ACP and was WAY TO MUCH for her. I got upset and she didn't want to shoot anymore. The range master was a retired Navy Range Master (of all things) Penny was PO and sat down while I didn't want to waste a day at the range. He went to Penny and helped her learn to shoot by letting her first feel the gun in her hand, and what FELT GOOD TO HER, NOT ME or MY OPINION!!

When I've seen guys at a gun range and a woman walks up there is Absolutely!! NO SHORTAGE of guys wanting to help them. This is what happened with Penny. She had every conceivable type and caliber of hand gun laying in front of her for her to shoot and tryout.

She found that a Revolver was out of the question for her AT THAT TIME!! most that own revolvers cant shoot them NEARLY AS WELL AS THEY SAY or THINK THEY CAN!! She settled on a Beretta 92FS I was really surprised with how good she was even thou I'm not a fan (until recently) of the 9MM.

We went home and were talking about the use of this new found delight. She didn't want to carry a Giant purse to conceal such a thing. I like Para Ordnance firearms, so we took a look at something in 9MM that was better to conceal (that's what she carries) Where we lived in Commiefornia it was illegal to CCW we BOTH DID IT ANYWAY.

Since that time she's become good with my 45 and does well, but she still likes the Para 9mm, to add to this she carries a Lady Smith 38 Special ( its a revolver) she practiced with some of my revolvers to the point that she's not bad, ITS IN ADDITION TO THE PARA not a primary carry.

My suggestion (if im allowed one without the cut and butcher) is take her to the above link or call your local Sherriff or Police and asked for help, I know that some will throw some xxxx On that idea, but if you don't have anything to hide THEY ARE A GREAT SOURCE OF HELP.

BIG