Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting Glock or?

[Jbremount]

Just to add to the discussion. The Smith&Wesson M&P Shield is a great carry/protection gun. It's thinner and smaller than the Glock 23 or 19, but is still very shootable. It is also very concealable, and size really does make a difference, as eventually a larger gun just does not get carried on a the person's body. If it's under the vehicle seat or something, it may not be handy when needed.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...oducts_id/82836/Lady+Buds/Guns+for+the+Ladies

 

[BoeingDiesel]

BoeingDiesel, call the "Refuse to be a Victim" number at (800) 861-1166 to locate a seminar to be held in your area. The instructor may or may not get into a presentation on preferred weapons of choice depending on whether or not he has been there, done that, and has the T-shirt, probably for liability reasons. I use to start right off by demonstrating different forms of concealment. Irregardless, some very good information will be covered and it will put your wife on her toes.

- Ed

Thanks Kilgore. It just so happens that this course is being offered early March in our CA area. I'm going to enroll her today.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

Just to add to the discussion. The Smith&Wesson M&P Shield is a great carry/protection gun. It's thinner and smaller than the Glock 23 or 19, but is still very shootable. It is also very concealable, and size really does make a difference, as eventually a larger gun just does not get carried on a the person's body. If it's under the vehicle seat or something, it may not be handy when needed.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...oducts_id/82836/Lady+Buds/Guns+for+the+Ladies

Thanks Jbremount, that the S&W looks to be a very manageable handgun for a gal'.

 

[RXT]

Don't know if you ever found what you were looking for but I'd thought I'd share my experiance. I purchased a sidearm for my wife for Christmas, two year ago. She is a small woman with tiny hands, and no firearm experiance. We chose to go with a little J-frame Smith & Wesson in .38 Special for concealed carry purposes. Reasoning for this choice was, it is light weight, compact, simple to operate, sufficient caliber, and being a revolver, it has a lower chance of misfire. The downside is whenever she uses it, it has a heavy recoil which has caused bruising in her hand. Around the same time, I purchased a Sig Saur P238 in .380 with the intent on swapping with her if she found that the Sig was easier to use. The need to rack and what to do in the event of a misfire turned her off to it, even though it was easier for her to shoot and has far less felt recoil. The S&W is point and shoot simple which is ideal for her.

Ed

 

[NIsaacs]

The downside is whenever she uses it, it has a heavy recoil which has caused bruising in her hand The S&W is point and shoot simple which is ideal for her.

Ed

What are you using for ammo? Any of the high powered or self defense type loads are over kill with this little guy. I would use a lead semi wad cutter or even a full wad cutter, they are mild and easy to shoot. Excellent choice of weapon.

Nick

 

[RXT]

For self defense it stays loaded with 90gr. Hornady Critical Defense lite, but whenever we were on the range, we were running some cheap 130gr. FMJ thru it. Admittedly for her, it was a bit heavy. For me, I have no problem and it usually feels as if it's got no more kick than my .45 and I've never suffered any bruising
The problem for her wasn't as easily resolved, she simply has small hands with very little "meat" in the palms of her hands. Despite trying several grip techniques, and lighter ammo, the felt recoil tended to bruise the palm of her hand after shooting a few rounds. Initially, I had thought we could resolve the problem by replacing the hard pink factory grips (Same type used on Ladysmiths) and upgrade her to a new Crimson trace laser grip with backstrap. That made a small improvement, it helped extend her shooting time, but she would still have bruising. The problem was finally resolved by using gloves. I found her a pair of fingerless shooting gloves which provides just enough cushion to the palm of her hand that she wasn't being bruised any longer. She is aware that if she ever had to defend herself, she would accept the bruising, just as all of us in a similar situation will have to accept some temporary deafness. But eventually I plan to get her another revolver, something she is already familar with, can keep around the house, and take out target shooting. Something in the K frame S&W line, not sure which yet, but I'm also liking the Ruger GP-100 too. I figure that the heavier mass of a larger pistol will help absorb the felt recoil, and she can keep her J-frame for her conceal carry.

Ed

 

[RXT]

sorry double post

 

[BoeingDiesel]

My wife has handled many handguns in the last week and still no decision. We’re waiting for her first training class in which she will be able to shoot revolvers and semi autos’. Unfortunately, the California approved list does not include many of the pistols that I thought would be a good choice so she’ll have a firearm that's legal in California and another for Texas.

 

[KBurgoyne]

I hate Glock. That being said I may have recently bought one. The 20/21 happens to be the only gun on the market that can be converted to 50GI. http://www.policemag.com/channel/we...ndustries-glock-21-50-caliber-conversion.aspx


The good news about them is they can be converted just like an AR with one lower and several uppers. The conversions do not need to be on the Commiefornia approved list. As long as you have a gen 3 frame its good to go, and there are a lot of caliber/slide conversions, and thousands of other parts that can be swapped out to make it fit the shooter.

 

[Sled Dog]

Personally: http://wilsoncombat.com/new/handgun-classic-supergrade.asp#.V0j04jUrKM8
I prefer this model compensated.

Their Words, I Agree.

No restrictions are placed on the time, effort, and expertise expended in the creation of our ultimate pistol -- the Classic Supergrade. Only our most experienced veteran pistolsmiths apply their skilled trade to build a Supergrade, and this select group brings over 50 years of pistolsmithing experience to the Supergrade workbench. An extremely limited number of these pistols are hand built each month, making the Supergrade an instant collector’s piece. The Supergrade is the 1911 to which all others -- from any source -- are compared. Simply the BEST of the BEST!

Yeah its a little steep but,
"What's Your Life Worth, To YOU?"

Might be REAL Cheap
when the rubber meets the road.

You only live once.
Some Live Longer than Others.

And if you're concerned about litigation,
load that thing with RIP Ammo.
FUKNA, JMHO.
Guaranteed Not to Rip, Run or Snag.
If they run, they will only Die Tired.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

After handling many different firearms my wife decided that she felt most comfortable with the Beretta 92FS but since then she has added to her collection with Sig P226 Scorpion and P227G2C.
She has attended quite a few self defense courses but the one that most impressed me was where she ran from one set of targets to another. I've gotta' say tho', I'm really surprised with how my little gal' handles the steel and makes me feel much better.

 

[Killgore]

I'm partial to Glock as I stated months ago. It is down right ugly; I would prefer a Kimber Rapture or Wilson or Ed Brown for the aesthetics and knock-down power, but unfortunately they aren't in the budget. So I have Glocks, left over from my days as a flat-foot. Dependable, and did I mention ugly? Now that I'm retired and carry a LEOSA certification, I'm careful to make every attempt to avoid attracting attention and carry concealed. The recent purchase of a Glock G-43 I find to be very concealable and discrete. And yes, it is still dependable, etc. I just wish it was a .45, but alas...

- Ed

 

[Bill Lins]

Ed, check out the S&W M&P Shield in .45ACP. I got one about 6 weeks ago & love it. Very concealable & easy to shoot, doesn't have the funky Glock trigger. Mine has the thumb safety, which I recommend. Smith is offering a $75 rebate on them right now, BTW.

 

[Sled Dog]

Santa Claus brought this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78WSbBCJVrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpTmHwv3uuI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb_vDSzY02Q

 

[The patriot]

IMO 380's are questionable in areas where heavy winter clothing are worn.
Go for a 9mm, or 38spl.

CDNN has the S&W's shield mentioned above for mid 200 range to about 300 rebate included.

YMMV etc etc

 

[Sled Dog]

IMO 380's are questionable in areas where heavy winter clothing are worn.
Go for a 9mm, or 38spl.

CDNN has the S&W's shield mentioned above for mid 200 range to about 300 rebate included.

YMMV etc etc

I used to feel Exactly the way you do about the 9mm and 38 Special.

But, Most of what I'll use it for is 20'-30' MAX and I saw this.

Further than that I'll be shooting an AR or OO Buck.

Extremely LOW Recoil with this 1911 frame, Far Superior to Walther PPK or PPK/S.

Watch, 380 SUCKS! LOL watch this!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfKSXWLNxg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczfeWK9lHw

 

[The patriot]

I'll try to watch it later.
Computers a little wacky this morning.