Goodbye 6.7L

[Dougers]

I waited with great anticipation for my 6. 7L after ordering it in February. However, 4 months and 17K miles later, I waited with even greater anticipation to rid myself of the same vehicle. Owning a faithful 5. 9L for 8 years and 318K miles, the 6. 7L proved to be a major disappointment. It is obvious the 6. 7L is not the same truck I read about in interviews with Dodge and Cummins engineers in several publications. Although the problems were varied---multiple check engine lights, power steering pump, a/c compressor, turbocharger, poor fuel mileage---the check engine light and turbo problems were seemingly EGR related. When Chrysler repurchased the truck, the second a/c compressor and turbo were acting up AGAIN. All of this is a shame because this was a great looking, driving and riding truck. There is no doubt in my mind this vehicle was not adequately tested before being released to the public. Furthermore, in defense of Chrysler, the federal government has once again put its nose where it does not belong. Although you can breathe the exhaust coming out of the tailpipe, we have taken a 25% hit on fuel mileage. So explain to me, what exactly did we do for the environment?



I would like to take this opportunity to thank the TDR community for insight and perspective. I encourage you to keep the feet of Dodge and Cummins close to the fire. Historically, they have had a great product; however, YOU cannot allow that fact to give them a pass on the shortcomings of the 6. 7L. That will only continue to frustrate and anger the loyal Dodge/Cummins owners who believe in, and have helped promote the attributes of the 5. 9L, only to be disillusioned with the 6. 7L.



In the mean time, "IF" I return to TDR, I will be on the 5. 9L side of the forum...

 

[Regcabguy]

Sorry for your bad luck. I've got a '07 5. 9 which so far has been fine. Lots of leftover 5. 9's out there at the lots. Good luck.

 

[TFucili]

Bummer. There is nothing worse than feeling like you are doing "beta" testing for something you just paid a ton-o-money for. Been there, done that with all sorts of products, including Japanese stuff.



Good luck to you.

 

['strokeThis_'07]

Furthermore, in defense of Chrysler, the federal government has once again put its nose where it does not belong. Although you can breathe the exhaust coming out of the tailpipe, we have taken a 25% hit on fuel mileage. So explain to me, what exactly did we do for the environment?

EXACTLY!! This has been my opinion all along. The *#&@^!% government has implemented some BS patch for what they "see" as the problem with the environment and global warming. If not for the numbskulls in office demanding such and such economy and emissions by such and such year, wed still be packin around old reliable 5. 9s. I have enough faith that Dodge and Cummins will get things fixed, hopefully soon. The 6. 7 can be a great engine, just as great as the 5. 9, if and when the little bugs are worked out. Woulda been better to have a 6. 7 without all this crap on it.

 

[p-Bar]

I think we need to blame Cummins on this . It's their people that came up with this smog system and they been bragging to the public they are meeting 2010 requirements now. Chrysler had such confidence in Cummins and I would of too after the great run with the 5. 9. Very sad to see. I expected a lot more from Cummins on this. Correct me if I am wrong

 

[GHarman]

In 4 years I will be looking for a new diesel truck . I doubt it will be a Dodge at the rate the complaints are coming in. Maybe the bugs will be worked out of the 6. 7 by then. That should run the price up to $60,000 not counting for inflation and the weakening dollar. GregH

 

[Doughboy21kd]

Not trying to make this sound rude..... But Ford and Chevy are having just as many problems as Dodge/Cummins but MORE..... Goto some of the FORD/CHEVY sites and you will see there are worse problems that they are worrying about... Just thought i would throw that out there

 

[InfernoB]

In 4 years I will be looking for a new diesel truck . I doubt it will be a Dodge at the rate the complaints are coming in. Maybe the bugs will be worked out of the 6. 7 by then. That should run the price up to $60,000 not counting for inflation and the weakening dollar.

I don't think a standard cab will be available at that price in 4 years, maybe with vinyl and steel wheels... ... ...



Dougers, Sorry you had problems with your truck. I am a first time Dodge buyer with a 5. 9, and I think it is great. I've had one assembly problem with a fuel tank bracket, and can't stop driving it. I was weighing the 6. 7 vs. 5. 9, and went with old faithful. Several of my friends have had great luck with their 6. 7's over 20K on them without issue.

 

[CUMMINZ]

6.7L problems

I have no doubt that Dougers knows what he is talking about but I do have questions?



Who built the turbo?? The steering pump?? The a/c compressor?? The EGR problems have been design problems for quite a few years??



Poor fuel milage is a design issue forced on DC... The assembly of all these parts are an issue for Cummins to work out and badly enough the engine is IN our trucks.



Hope you get things worked out with your new 5. 9L.



The new 5. 9L probably has the same a/c parts and steering pump as my 6. 7L



I traded the best & prettiest 06 5. 9L Inferno Red DRW I have ever seen for my new 6. 7L and so far have loved ever mile.



Salisbury / Rowan County Information OnLine ® - 2006 3500 Dodge Ram

 

[MMeier]

In 4 years I will be looking for a new diesel truck . I doubt it will be a Dodge at the rate the complaints are coming in. Maybe the bugs will be worked out of the 6. 7 by then. That should run the price up to $60,000 not counting for inflation and the weakening dollar. GregH

Ones I've been looking at are at $60k already!!

 

[Simplysmn]

I have to say that I just bought a 08 and don't regret it what so ever it is a awesome truck run's great I think the problems everyone was and is haveing is in the 07'5 trucks don't give up on dodge just yet give em another chance I think you will see they fixed the problem's they were haveing Or atleast I hope . I have less then 1000 miles and have not even had a hint of anything going wrong .

 

[Garlic]

Well, the 07. 5 is really no different than the 89, 94 through 98, even the 01's.

They all have their own issues, Brakes, front end, cooling system, transmissions, vacuum brake boosters. I personally have worked on them all.

Ford can't even keep the same power plant in their trucks for 5 years with out changing them. Chevy/Isusu still can't quite figure out how to fix the fist ones. The customer is still the testers and they are still being designed and built by humans, we all know where this is going. Big brother is in all of our business and will remain there for ever so get used to it. Some of us are perfectly content with the way things come out of the factory and there are some that just can't leave well enough alone. I have been in the industry of making things better, more power, figure out how to cheat the system for more than 30 years and now with the factory advances they are really better than ever before. I enjoy my Dodges, I did not have a gun to my head or any other threat to purchase one, I bought it because I liked it. But remember no matter what you buy you may get one that has 'birth defects' no matter how many test miles or dollars in research they put into them.

Garlic

 

[tgrfan2]

Well anyone that wants to trade there 07. 5 for a slightly used 12V let me know. My friend had a little trouble with his regen when new but it has run great since then. The 06 D/A and
CTD I have towed with won't touch it either. Maybe a new dealer/tech would help.
Anyway if what I heard this morning on Fox is proved we won't have to worry about diesels long.
The doctor said that heart attacks in joggers and bike riders have been traced to breathing diesel smoke! I asked my wife why truckers, farmers, and construction workers weren't dropping like flies.

 

[FATCAT]

Not trying to make this sound rude..... But Ford and Chevy are having just as many problems as Dodge/Cummins but MORE..... Goto some of the FORD/CHEVY sites and you will see there are worse problems that they are worrying about... Just thought i would throw that out there

Thats B... S. . !!!!!! Especially on the GM sites. Pure and simple, Cummins and Dodge did NOT DO THE TESTING needed for this new engine/emmisions package.



I will need a "newer" truck in the next couple of years and at this point can't come to the thought of considering a new Dodge CTD.



I can only put so much Great Stuff foam in all the rust holes in my truck ... and if Dodge wants my business, I had better not keep reading of the mess of stories I see on this site, the DTR and the Diesel Garage about the same problems over and over.



Dougers ... I am truly sorry to hear of your problems. What are you planning to do now that you have your money back?

 

[Doughboy21kd]

Thats B... S. . !!!!!! Especially on the GM sites. Pure and simple, Cummins and Dodge did NOT DO THE TESTING needed for this new engine/emmisions package.



I will need a "newer" truck in the next couple of years and at this point can't come to the thought of considering a new Dodge CTD.



I can only put so much Great Stuff foam in all the rust holes in my truck ... and if Dodge wants my business, I had better not keep reading of the mess of stories I see on this site, the DTR and the Diesel Garage about the same problems over and over.



Dougers ... I am truly sorry to hear of your problems. What are you planning to do now that you have your money back?

It may be B. S. , but i only went to a couple of different sites, not all the GM sites... . Not trying to start a war. :-{}



So no need to get offended... .



In all honesty here, i've been looking myself for a 2nd gen again

 

[AHarris]

Awesome 2nd Gen

It may be B. S. , but i only went to a couple of different sites, not all the GM sites... . Not trying to start a war. :-{}



So no need to get offended... .



In all honesty here, i've been looking myself for a 2nd gen again

Dude, if you're looking for a great second gen, check out this one on my other thread which I posted several months ago (before my wife insisted I get a new one instead).



I don't know how to link to it--just go to "First time Cummins Diesel Owners" forum and open the thread titled "Check this Out"



If you're interested, I can give you an e-mail address to contact the owner of this truck in Wakefield, Michigan (in the U. P. ). He's not in a hurry to sell it but I know he still has it. It spends most of its life in a garage and just comes out when he needs to go camping in his 5th wheel. It's a SWEET TRUCK!



From the sites I've looked at, I got the same impression you did--lots of growing pains--especially the Fords... not so bad with GM.



I'm looking forward to my 6. 7... I can't lose since I'm getting the thing for about $16K off sticker price!! I hope I'm one of the lucky ones but I have a lot of faith in Dodge--they've never let me down in 22 years of driving!

 

[RVTRKN]

Thats B... S. . !!!!!! Especially on the GM sites. Pure and simple, Cummins and Dodge did NOT DO THE TESTING needed for this new engine/emmisions package.



I will need a "newer" truck in the next couple of years and at this point can't come to the thought of considering a new Dodge CTD.



I can only put so much Great Stuff foam in all the rust holes in my truck ... and if Dodge wants my business, I had better not keep reading of the mess of stories I see on this site, the DTR and the Diesel Garage about the same problems over and over.



Dougers ... I am truly sorry to hear of your problems. What are you planning to do now that you have your money back?

Is that why the D/A has changed every year it has been in production, just ask a LLY owner if he has beefed up his cooling system because it overheats when towing. What about Ford and the 6. oh no in which any year the 6. 0 was in production, Ford never fixed the problem except to buy back the ones that failed (A whole lot of them) and the 6. 4 is proving just as bad as what I have been reading. I have put my money where my mouth is and own the 6. 7 C&C and is trouble free so far and except the regen problem which did not effect my C&C was taken care of ASAP with the dealers and Dodge addressing the issue with no lies, unlike the 6. 0, even Toyota and Honda have issues with a few of there vehicles, but they take care of thier customers unlike Ford and GM. I'm very happy with D/C in all the cars and trucks I have owned over the years even the Dodge Shadow with all the problems I had with the auto trans, Dodge stood behind there product and fixed it. If you think you can purchase any vehicle today and not have some slight issues with all the electronics involved than good luck with what you buy.

 

[MCummings]

Wow, you had a troubly free '99 and went 318k miles? That's cool! Cool you had good luck with it. Most others didn't. Funny the 6. 7L didn't like you.



Merrick

 

[PRout]

I think the problems everyone was and is having is in the 07'5 trucks don't give up on dodge just yet give em another chance I think you will see they fixed the problem's they were having

The problem i have with Dodge is not that they have bugs when they are new models. That is to be expected. It's what they do about the bugs that make or break them IMO. With that said, I think they will make the minimum amount of fixes they can get away with judging from past experience. Hopefully I'm wrong, but the VP44, lift pumps, #53 block cracks, repeated sensor failures, etc, have left a bad impression.

Also, I don't care to have a computer telling me when to change the oil, or stop for an In-n-Out burger.

Merrick: We CAN read your sig.