Attention: TDR Forum Junkies 
Big Bob - I'm not so sure that you and Shawn don't agree more than you guys think. But, one thing for sure, Shawn ain't explaining it so well, and you sure ain't gettin' what he's trying to say.
Big Bob - Sure you can compare stock motors. Uhhhh how about this comparison. Stock Cummins VS. Stock PSD. Sounds like a comparison to me. The fairness comes in where these 2 vehicles are exactly what the manufacturers released! It's totally fair. Lets see, ain't that how people decide to choose one new vehicle over another (most of the time)? Comparing one new vehicle to another new vehicle? Hmmmmm, I think so.
What Shawn is TRYING to say is that bombing the hell out of a Cummins, then racing a more than likely stock PSD and boasting about it is redundant.
My analogy: 2 different breed puppies are born - 1 Poodle, 1 Rotweiler. When they are 2 - 4 weeks old neither one is much of a watchdog. They're both just puppies (kind of like a stock truck) and both kind of equivalent, can't really do much but look cute. But give'em a year (bomb them) then see who's the bigger more intimidating watch dog. What Shawn is saying is: After the dogs are a year old (bombed) its kind of silly for the Rotweiler owner to laugh in the poodle owner's face and say, "My dog could kill your dog. " DUHHHHHH! They're not equivalent dogs anymore. What did the Rotweiler owner prove? Nothing that physics didn't already. Same with the trucks. What does the bombed Cummins owner prove to the stock PSD owner? Nothing that physics didn't already.
But this is my opinion (and maybe more along the lines with what Big Bob is arguing). Bombed Cummins or not, it's still a $hitload of fun to outpower a bigger engined vehicle, and to getter better fuel mileage while doing it. And to have a more dependable, simpler to work on, longer lasting engine too. Is it fair? I think so. The PSD owner's bought theirs, let them bomb too if they want to. Kind of like its more fun to own a Rotweiler than to own a poodle (maybe owning those two different dogs is not really a good comparison to owning two different trucks, but hey, for my analogy, it gets the job done. )
Shawn - I hope I did OK with trying to explain what you are trying to say. I hope I understand you like I think I do.
Ram Ahead!
- JyRO
Big Bob - Sure you can compare stock motors. Uhhhh how about this comparison. Stock Cummins VS. Stock PSD. Sounds like a comparison to me. The fairness comes in where these 2 vehicles are exactly what the manufacturers released! It's totally fair. Lets see, ain't that how people decide to choose one new vehicle over another (most of the time)? Comparing one new vehicle to another new vehicle? Hmmmmm, I think so.
What Shawn is TRYING to say is that bombing the hell out of a Cummins, then racing a more than likely stock PSD and boasting about it is redundant.
My analogy: 2 different breed puppies are born - 1 Poodle, 1 Rotweiler. When they are 2 - 4 weeks old neither one is much of a watchdog. They're both just puppies (kind of like a stock truck) and both kind of equivalent, can't really do much but look cute. But give'em a year (bomb them) then see who's the bigger more intimidating watch dog. What Shawn is saying is: After the dogs are a year old (bombed) its kind of silly for the Rotweiler owner to laugh in the poodle owner's face and say, "My dog could kill your dog. " DUHHHHHH! They're not equivalent dogs anymore. What did the Rotweiler owner prove? Nothing that physics didn't already. Same with the trucks. What does the bombed Cummins owner prove to the stock PSD owner? Nothing that physics didn't already.
But this is my opinion (and maybe more along the lines with what Big Bob is arguing). Bombed Cummins or not, it's still a $hitload of fun to outpower a bigger engined vehicle, and to getter better fuel mileage while doing it. And to have a more dependable, simpler to work on, longer lasting engine too. Is it fair? I think so. The PSD owner's bought theirs, let them bomb too if they want to. Kind of like its more fun to own a Rotweiler than to own a poodle (maybe owning those two different dogs is not really a good comparison to owning two different trucks, but hey, for my analogy, it gets the job done. )
Shawn - I hope I did OK with trying to explain what you are trying to say. I hope I understand you like I think I do.
Ram Ahead!
- JyRO
