Has anyone lowered a 2005 4X4 Quad LWB?

[RJOL]

I've looked at the information about lowering a 3rd Gen (thanks Klenger, Matt400, and GerryDrake) and have a question about the number of spacers used.



In the information from the guys above, I see that they had just two spacers and a saddle where as I have three spacers and the saddle.



Has anyone lowered one with the three spacers, and is there anything different about the procedure? Thanks...

 

[Matt400]

Thats Interesting you show those 3.

I just did my 05 and it had only 2 but is a SWB 2500.



As for how many to remove it just depends on what relationship to the front you want.

I suspect they have 3 on yours so it shows less sag when loaded.

They are . 595" thick so rounded one is just over 1/2", 2 is about 1. 25" and 3 is 1. 75"



I would measure (on level ground) how high the fender opening is in the front and calculate how much drop you want.



Wonder if 3 is a dually thing? I saw an 03 3500 the other day with only 2 but it was a SWB SRW.



I gave my son one extra of the 2 I took out on mine for his 2500 and it looks just right with a 2" level in the front, better than only 2 IMO.

 

[RJOL]

At first I wondered if the spacers, or the bottom leaf spring was a different thickness then yours, but they appear, in the photos, to be the same. Maybe I should just move two of them and leave one below, if that is possible.

 

[RJOL]

Well I went out and measured the thickness of the spacers. The three spacers measure 1 1/8". Maybe someone with an unmodified 3rd Gen 4X4 LWB Quad Cab with the camper/tow package and two spacers could measure theirs and see what the difference might be...

 

[ECappleman]

Take a look here at Matt's... ...



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/user_gallery/displayalbum.php?&userid=16525&albumid=925

 

[RJOL]

Take a look here at Matt's... ...

Well... what I'm I supposed to see? He has a 2003 2500 with two spacers. I have a 2005 3500 with three spacers.



So... Once again... Is there a 2005 3500 owner that has three spacers and has moved them to the top and lowered the rear. If so... Is there anything different to the instructions provided in past threads, and what did they end up with as far as the amount the rear was lowered?

 

[Cummins Cowboy]

why on earth would you want to lower a 4x4??

 

[67guzzler]

why on earth would you want to lower a 4x4??

I think they're talking about lowering the rear to level the truck out. Some people who tow need it to be more level.

 

[geusterman]

I think they're talking about lowering the rear to level the truck out. Some people who tow need it to be more level.

I leveled mine with KORE front springs adding about 2" but because I haul a heavy camper (and use spacers between the overload springs and spring stops) it is sagging a little in rear. I am going back to a stock coil spring.



My 3600 SRW had three spacers. George

 

[Matt400]

Maybe someone with an unmodified 3rd Gen 4X4 LWB Quad Cab with the camper/tow package and two spacers could measure theirs and see what the difference might be...

I thought the camper pkg was dropped when 3rd gens started and only tow pkg was offered as an option. The procedure to pull them out will be the same, they are bolted in there with 1/2" bolts (2 each side) and sandwich the entire spring stack. Just pull out how ever much drop you want or even add them back to the top so you don't have to buy different length spring or U bolts.

 

[Matt400]

My 3500 SRW had three spacers.

Thats weird. . cuz my 03 2500 SRW had 2 and my 05 SRW 2500 had 2 and I have seen 2 03 SRW 3500's with 2. Maybe its something to do with who is doing the spring stack for a particular production run because my 2 measure 1. 25" where RJOL says his 3 measure only 1 and 1/8".



IMO lowering the back is a far better approach if your going to stay at or below a 33" tire vs raising the front which is nice for 35's.

 

[RJOL]

... Maybe its something to do with who is doing the spring stack for a particular production run because my 2 measure 1. 25" where RJOL says his 3 measure only 1 and 1/8"...

Matt... If sounds like they may have used different width spacers. My three are actually just a little less then your two. If that's the case, there shouldn't be any real difference in the amount the rear is lowered. I will probably just move all three spacers...

 

[RJOL]

Matt... I printed out pictures of your spring pack and mine. When you put them side by side, yours are definitely thicker then the ones they used on mine. You can tell by looking at the thickness of the saddle...

 

[JimDay]

I pulled all three out and put them between the be leaf springs and the over loads. I do get some tapping from the over loads some of the time when pulling the trailer. And I wish that I could lower the rear end another inch. I have hit the tail gate once and the corner once with a Sooner four horse trailer. I never know that I had hit it. I'm going to put two inch spacer over the axles on the trailer next.

 

[Cummins Cowboy]

I think they're talking about lowering the rear to level the truck out. Some people who tow need it to be more level.

if they are towing the rear will level itself out from the weight, nothing looks more rediculous than a truck going down the road with the backend lower than the front, the ford guys are classic about doing it, they do a small leveling type lift on the front end and it ends up being higher than the back, couple that with big tires that stick out, crome rocker panels and crome fender trim. to me it looks stupid, JMO to each his own

 

[RJOL]

I pulled all three out and put them between the be leaf springs and the over loads. I do get some tapping from the over loads some of the time when pulling the trailer. And I wish that I could lower the rear end another inch. I have hit the tail gate once and the corner once with a Sooner four horse trailer. I never know that I had hit it. I'm going to put two inch spacer over the axles on the trailer next.

Jim... Thanks for the info... What type and year of CTD do you own? A signature block would be helpful... Do you know what kind of pin weight you are carrying? Thanks...

 

[Big P]

I just lifted my 2005 2500 and it had two 5/8" spacers= 1 1/4".

 

[klenger]

Cummins Cowboy: Call me stupid if you must. I'm very happy with the results of lowering the back end of the truck and recommend it to anyone having clearance problems with a 5er. My truck is still tail high when empty and a bit tail low when towing.

 

[JimDay]

My truck is a 3500 2005. 5, G56 trans. , B&W hitch. I ready don't know what the trailer is grossing. The trailer is rated at 8500 gross weight. I normally haul three horses, that are 1500 lbs. each. The truck has the same height with out the trailer as it does with the trailer hooked up and loaded. So it's pretty lite. I have 4. 5 to 5 inches of clearance between the goose neck and the tail gate. I have two other trailers that weigh 7500 empty, and gross 30,000. I will have to stretch the truck chase by 10-12 inch and put on my aluminum flat bed to pull them. The reason for stretching the chase is to have at least four foot of clearance between the inverted king pin and the headack rack.

 

[RJOL]

My truck is a 3500 2005. 5, G56 trans. , B&W hitch. I ready don't know what the trailer is grossing. The trailer is rated at 8500 gross weight. I normally haul three horses, that are 1500 lbs. each. The truck has the same height with out the trailer as it does with the trailer hooked up and loaded. So it's pretty lite. I have 4. 5 to 5 inches of clearance between the goose neck and the tail gate. I have two other trailers that weigh 7500 empty, and gross 30,000. I will have to stretch the truck chase by 10-12 inch and put on my aluminum flat bed to pull them. The reason for stretching the chase is to have at least four foot of clearance between the inverted king pin and the headack rack.

Jim... Sounds like you have the same basic truck as mine. I'm surprised that you are hitting the rails with that load, unless you are off road. Your king pin weight must be low cause with my 2700-2800lb king pin weight it definitely brings my bed down to the overloads...