Hot Rod VP44 myths

[MGreer]

I don't see how the role has flipped, you seem more than ever Kokoo for cocoa puffs. Tough guy.

 

[24valvin_Tabbert]

No sir,
My intention was to stand up for the members that were being critized in this thread. Looks like I went about it the wrong and for that I apologize to anyone offended.

Heres is my next post on the build. Through the last 4-6 years ran a few different single turbos and here is what I got OUT OF MY EXPERIENCE. First turbo was a Frankenstein holset, never could figure out what it was exactly, some part numbers came back holset hx50 and some hx40, was very odd. Ran great with 150hp ddp injectors I had, spooled Incredibly fast and made 40psi full tilt was very very quick, Still have the turbo in a box in my shop. Then went to 250s with compound kit. Back story to that to be posted later.
I then went to a phatshaft 62/65/12, it was okay, good bottom end but got hot on top end with my compounds. So ditched that, bought a viper shaft 63/68/12, was okay not what I was wanting. Ran that till it was leaking oil on seals and rebuilt and sold got rid of it. Now the setup is a super phatshaft 64/71/14 over a 75/96/1.15 And I REALLY like this setup. Bottom end little laggy,bbut mid-top end is FANTASTIC. Empty runs a little warm with hot rod vp and 250s but still under 1070 degrees all day long. Towing my gooseneck or camper they shine, has enough load to really get them working witb some weight on it, and they perform when towing, does anyone know how to post videos here? Like before I said, not making a YouTube channel, even though I said I would, I decided to not do it. I'll try and make some videos shorter but how short do they have to be anyone know?

 

[MGreer]

It's been fun chatting this evening with ya, but it's real late where I'm at. Will check back in tomorrow.

Cheers

 

[24valvin_Tabbert]

I don't see how the role has flipped, you seem more than ever Kokoo for cocoa puffs. Tough guy.

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Call me little fella

 

[24valvin_Tabbert]

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Call me if you think I'm that fake, and bs. Guarantee a phone call would set this all straight.

 

[24valvin_Tabbert]

Next post on build. So I am actually on my third engine. The first engine I had built by a diesel performance shop that made it 300 miles before it cracked all the way down the passenger side of the block. I did not know this until I went to my grandfather's to show him my new engine. Grandpa is who was a diesel mechanic in his military career, fast forward quite a few years he retired as a lineman foreman, unfortunately got sick and became disabled came disabled and retired early.but he still is very knowledgeable in the heavy duty diesel world, and when I showed him this engine he said why is your paint lifted off the side of the block? I said Gramps I don't know why, so I took a flat tip screwdriver and poked it and coolant was pouring on the ground. The block that they had used to build this was a 53 block that was ground down where the numbers are which I didn't think anything of it the guy seem pretty straight who built it. Took 6 months to get it warrantied finally got the engine back put it back in the truck drove it for 1,000 miles exact, at the time I was working for a big heavy civil construction company building highways as a mechanic fresh out of college and halfway home the truck started getting a knock. I realized that I had good oil pressure that was not diminishing, (meaning no crank or rod bearings were lost), and my coolant temperatures were not rising, so I figured this was a injector knock from a stuck injector which is common on mechanical injectors. I drove it two and a half more hours home, pull all the rockers arms and injectors out sent them off to be pressure tested and checked only to find out they were all garbage. So I bought a set of 250 horsepower ducky fuel injection injectors, Chris luttrell is the one who owns it and he is a great guy. I stuck the injectors in and the knock was still there so I knew it had to be a broken ring or a piston. Used the service truck, yarded the engine out tore the engine apart and on cylinder 5 the oil control ring and combustion rings had broken inbetween them and there's about a 2-in piece of piston that was just slapping between rings. Now normally this would score the cylinder walls terrible, horizontal scratch marks are bad news bears. Rings catch horizontal and cause what i said above. But because this was a vertical scratch after this failure, marks in the cylinder walls after honing it you weren not able to catch it with your fingernail, besides vertical marks can't really catch rings and break them. Thinking this was just a lemon piston, flaws in casting, idk for surel. So I went all out after this happened on my block. I have Pistons from industrial Injection that are ceramic coated and pressure treated. And a stage 2 camshaft, more or less a "towing cam". FYI IF you can measure Piston valve clearance/ protusion, with a cam and if they do not touch you don't need fly cut Pistons. A fire ring head gasket like i have makes a big difference and raises cylinder head a little bit, sometimes enough to clear. A towing cam is not Always big enough on overlap for that to be needed. ALWAYS CHECK TO MAKE SURE. If block had been decked absolutely needs to be checked and that is a catastrophic failure I wish on no one. Pistons from manufacturers are supposed to be perfect fit but you still need to check ring Gap on rings in a cylinder for all of them, no exceptions I do on all c15s, c32s, and mainly what I work on 3516 and c175 caterpillars. With that being said I would take a piston that I was going to put in, let's say cylinder four, come loaded from caterpillar factory , liner, piston and rod in one package and still check it. We are all human and miss some things now and then.

If I had to grind it down with a bench grinder I did it. RING GAP IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL NO MATTER THE BRAND OR SIZE. That was 6 years ago I built that block and have yet to have a problem, moral of the story I'm trying to get across, even if a manufacturer tells you it is perfect obviously it was not in my experience which led to thousands of dollars of repairs and thousands of dollars in upgrades to avoid any future failures. only stressing this so much, so someone else doesn't have to learn the way I did. ARP rod bolts are the s@#$!! Next post about block and crank, etc tomorrow

situations.

 

[NIsaacs]

As for the opinin with lift kits, bla bla whatever.

Your way or the highway? It is useless to try and debate/discuss a subject when immediate resentment is clear. Yes, it is a difference of opinion but not just an opinion. I have reasons, knowledge, experience and facts to back it up. Same thing with my take on the NV4500 and the air filter choice. I will be glad to discuss them.

How about some pictures of your rear suspension, try and include the rear drive shaft when you do. Have you hooked to a sled yet? If so, tell me about it. Also, some pictures hooked to a heavy trailer, both bumper pull and gooseneck/fifth wheel. And...please, fold your mirrors in when you are not pulling a ghost trailer, looks dorky with them folded out on a SRW truck

 

[Signal73]

Welcome to the TDR tabber. Now that we got our initial jabs out of the way I look forward to reading your posts. Informed forum members are hard to find nowadays stick around a bit, and help others when you can. It’s what makes tdr a great resource.

 

[24valvin_Tabbert]

I am look

Welcome to the TDR tabber. Now that we got our initial jabs out of the way I look forward to reading your posts. Informed forum members are hard to find nowadays stick around a bit, and help others when you can. It’s what makes tdr a great resource.

I am looking forward to it as well.

 

[SnoKing]

To bad he can not start over and just present his build, with ego left in a closed drawer of his tool box.

 

[Cummins12V98]

To bad he can not start over and just present his build, with ego left in a closed drawer of his tool box.

I'm thinking most of the chest thumping is out of the way.

 

[bcbender]

Lets hope so, seems like a cool build but I was catching up on the tread and its hard to read...

 

[petersonj]

seems like a cool build but I was catching up on the tread and its hard to read...

I agree. Using paragraphs to separate related subject matter into groups is a very useful tool to not only benefit the reader, but the writer, as well.

- John

 

[TDRAdmin4]

FYI, there were no plans to ban anyone. That's a tool of last resort, usually after multiple issues/warnings or when something is severe. Please, to those who continued after I chimed in, let it go.

Thanks all, and enjoy your weekend. TGIF!

 

[Shiner]

LOL. It won't be long before the OP is kicked off this site like he has been on every other site he's been on. It's funny how he changed his attitude once admin chimed in. Good riddance.

And you may be part of the problem.

 

[Shiner]

Edit: Assumed the OP was a male/man in my response. Don't want to be sexist, it could be a little girl. Not trying to hurt any feelings. Sorry.

Who is stirring the pot now?

 

[TDRAdmin4]

"Let it go" didn't mean continue and getting in one last jab.