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8k diesels looked good, the plumbers truck from riverbank is devastating the street class this year... ... congrats Johnny. bbd truck is a monster, looked really good to me, brother silva busted his air to water cooler. couple other trucks ran really good prolly more hp than the plumbers truck but years of exp can stomp hp still. tractors looked good, super farm and the 2 multis looked awesome, the alky tractor looked like it safetied up a bit.

Scott was right on the wall the whole track ground speed was awesome,

all in all it was a great night



Brandon
 
Okay, I am going to vent.



Yep, 23 Trucks one class what a crock of crap. I actually pulled against the lady in the excursion, her daily grocery getter, and lots of other daily drivers. Seemed a little one sided to me.



Here is what I saw; the price to participate in this event had doubled from the previous year. It cost me a total of $80. 00, $40. 00 to hook with one wrist band for myself, $20. 00 for my wife and $20. 00 for my son, they are my pit crew and we like to make it a fun family event. Apparently the promoters of this event don’t realize that we have advanced to where it takes, a few on this night, two people just start our trucks, or do they? I was also informed that the cost had also doubled to get in to the bleachers. It was $20. 00 for adults and $12. 00 for kids. That can be expensive for the average family to attend, two adults and two kids bam you’re at $64. 00. It was disorganized to boot.



Please understand that I am normally not one to complain, I can deal with the fact that maybe somebody is trying to get rich off this event. I know that the event was put together by the FFA and maybe all proceeds were donated back to them or simply the Promoter’s pocket, I don’t know. However, I do know for certain that there were no payouts; my $80. 00 netted me the $6. 00 wall plaque for first place.



I can handle a little confusion and disorganization, no biggie. The part that really gets to me is that everyone was in one class, to me that speaks volumes that they don’t take us seriously!!!!!! The Diesel 4x4 class was the largest class that night and I was left feeling like it was all about the all mighty dollar to the promoters. They simply lumped us into one big generic class. So the tube frame, purpose built, water injected, twin turbo, Rockwell equipped, tilt bodied truck really handed it to the poor lady in the stock Excursion. Stupid !!!!!!



From the very beginning I have been in this sport promoting it and helping with the popularity. From my own perspective I feel that I have done a good job; With self advertising, websites, video’s, magazine exposure etc…. helping folks when I can via private messages, phone calls, e-mail’s, included events, where if you asked what I did to my truck I told you. Also, if you needed pictures of a modification I went out, took them, and sent them to you. If you wanted me to lift the hood at an event I did. I did all of this with the sole purpose to help grow this sport and encourage others to compete.



In my opinion the pull this past Saturday at the Hughson “Fruit and Nut Festival” was a step backwards. The organization who put on this event clearly doesn’t know how far 4x4 diesel truck pulling has come. People were seriously upset that they had paid to get into the pits and found out they were running against the likes of Tom C, James S, and myself and I don’t blame them one bit. Hopefully they will attend another event and will be put into a class were they at least have a chance.



With that being said, I will not and cannot support or pull with organizations that don’t take us seriously or have the knowledge to at least break us up into different classes. We as 4x4 diesel sled pullers need to unite and let these organizations know we are here to stay; we are growing by leaps and bounds, and should be treated, at the very least, like our gasser counterparts at these events. In my opinion if you support these types of organization you’re hurting our sport and not helping it grow. I have chosen, now YOU CHOOSE !!!!!!!!



BBD
 
well thats the way shipman and ptpa is... they have come a long way, I called them years ago to pull at stockton and they said no! so they have come along way but are still ignorant, just ask me and we will always tell you who the promoter is... . which may be different than the sled we use

Brandon
 
Brandon, Hughson Nut Festival contracted thru PTPA for the modified PTPA members' vehicles only, the PTPA only supplied the modified tractors at Saturday's event. So I don't blame them or anybody in particular as I don't know for fact who actully ran the diesel class, nor do I care, but who ever was involved needs to be aware that we need classes, three at a minumum Street, Super Street, and Modified. You have been around as long as me and know its time for them to step up to plate or be left behind.



BBD
 
That's a shame on the classes! If I go to a small dyno event I will usually just run exhibition, doesn't seem fair when you know your 300 hp over everyone.



It's still good to see you get the truck out Scott and get some time on it!



Brandon, good to see you on the board, know you don't post much anymore!



Tell James that intercooler will not hold with the welds on the edges, they have to be in the center... ... if I'm thinking right, bad thing for spearco to do it that way.



Jim
 
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thats dave ramos tractor, so its all the same as he is a ptpa member. You see ramos wife got on the nut fest board last year, and swayed the decision not to use brian, it was never about the money. This is what I have been informed happened...
 
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Scott --good post... .



pulls that don't have Brian Massetti involved are a joke on our end---plus with the 8000# rule I won't go to them--I'm not going to support people who continue to treat us unfairly---chris
 
Good post Scott, sorry to hear about the crappy turn out/results for that pull. In light of this, I am re-thinking my attendance to the VTPA pull in Waterford on June 2nd as well as some of the others. Maybe the L&L events in Newman and Sonora can put on a good show and put the diesel 4x4s in their repsective classes. I would much rather drive 10-12 hours to the JH rally, break my truck and come in last place rather than attend a pull 4 hours away where everyone is put into one class and pull against someone like you where my truck has absolutely no chance of even coming close to your pulled distance. Sounds like they didn't even have a proper sled to add weight to for a modified class. Bet you pulled that sled into the next county. :-laf

Guess I am going to take another look at the CSS pulling schedule and try to attend the JH rally(VERY slim chance) as well as others put on by MLM. Sucks cuz the only one I think I will be able to make it to is the Ukiah pull in August and in the meantime I want to get out there and pull for the experience and competition. Oo.



Joe
 
It was nice to see that many Diesel trucks at one pull but it really sucked that they put them all in the same class. .



I wish L&L and MLM had more pulls.
 
I wish L&L and MLM had more pulls.



Definately wish MLM brought their sled down to So Cal more often or at least to some more central Cali venues as Redding, Red Bluff and Tulelake are WAY to far for anyone down in So Cal to make it to annually. :{



Joe
 
Great job of promoting this event. This is the first I have heard of it. :mad: But as Scott mentioned, The price is too high, Just like the Fair, Lump all into one class. I realize that it takes quite a bit of work to put somthing like this on BUT... ... . How hard is it to get people that know something about contemporary diesel engine tech to break up classes a little. I would like to pull with my 93 but againsed trucks closer to my class. Be it by year (era), fuel system, and or turbo's and chassis mods.
 
Unfortunatly I will be taking the Stanislaus County Fair in Turlock, CA off our schedule for this year as that event is run the same way. One big stupid class.



BBD
 
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