I Am Gagging !

[Don M]

There is a certain maturation that goes with being a conservative. Many a young college age kid has been a liberal. Take a look at the ideas so many of our professors and universities bang into the fresh outta high school newbies. After most of them grow up and have families they begin to change their ways a bit, mature and gravitate toward conservative ideas.

Some never mature and then we get the adult liberals. The worst ones to have at the voting booths. Add in the voting blocks of Latinos, Blacks, homo's, government workers, many union workers and the conservative side has a tough time keeping up.

With the massive, unchecked immigration policies and minority birth rates the conservative is headed toward minority status unless we do something about it now.



Don~

 

[KMC]

One thing we can do: VOTE REPUBLICAN! Sorry if this hurt's someone's feelings but the majority of the nonsense that we see going on to day (as discussed in this thread) is introduced and fostered by left wing liberals and Democrats. The days of the blue collar Democrat are gone - thier party has been hijacked by left wing socialist Kooks and most Democrats just aren't able or refuse to see it.



Not that republicans are perfect but it is the only chance we have in the voting booth to slow this decay and Libertarians just don't have enough political clout.

 

[rrausch]

I was a Liberal Democrat 25 years ago when I first visited L. A. I had the complete Liberal mindset. "Oh yes!... how wonderful!... all the wonderful immigrants who only want a better way of life!... " I believed that load of c.



Well, it didn't take very many times being preyed upon by any of the thousands of minority gangs, (There might be 2 white gangs here) before I started to question things. It didn't take long, watching 100,000 3rd world idiots pour into L. A. EVERY YEAR for the last 25 years... watching as the freeways became clogged with beat-up, dirty old junkers... watching as whites were systematically driven out of minority neighborhoods by racist violence against them... it didn't take long watching building sites being purged of white carpenters, plumbers, installers, drywallers... it didn't take long watching the Liberal Media deciding NOT to mention criminal's race, on news broadcasts, lest people get the idea that we were being preyed upon by these animals... It took about 5 years.



I still remember the time back in the 1980's when I started putting American Flags on my truck again. It was a Chevy then. Man it felt STRONG and GOOD. God, I love the U. S. We really are up against a serious threat with massive immigration. I write letters to Pres. Bush and my Commie Senators.

 

[brucew]

change ?

rrausch: right on !!! excellent verbal picture of how the silent majority is becoming the silent minority. if we don't get our views across to our legislators we will be buried in a sea of liberalism !! forgive the soapbox but your statement is exactally what i like about our motorcycle rights organization. we ride to the state capital once a year and press the flesh with those we elected. we are getting the clout we want because we are persistent. also, because most of us have values, we vote and we are responsible citizens. bruce

 

[NVR FNSH]

Originally posted by Don M

Add in the voting blocks of Latinos, Blacks, homo's, government workers, many union workers and the conservative side has a tough time keeping up.

Don~

I'm sure all the military/DOD personel that are paid by the gov't and thus are 'government workers' just love being lumped in here. Also, aren't a large percentage of Latino's Catholic? Wouldn't they have good upstanding moral values like the good white male Catholics on this thread? Conservative is not limited to whites.



Brian

 

[brucew]

conservatism

nvr fnsh: you are absolutely correct regarding race and values. two people i love to hear speak are allan keyes and j. c. watts. both blacks and to my understanding pretty conservative. and to qualify what i mean they stand for doing the right thing, accepting responsibily for your own actions, attitudes and behaviors and quit whining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bruce

 

[Don M]

Brian,

Long time no post to a thread I have commented on. . You know I was not lumping anyone together. "Voting blocks" does not translate to everyone.

Latinos vote two to one on the democrat or more liberal side. Not all dems are liberal either. Generalizations on their face are not fair. Generalizatons are a tool we should all learn to use to make decisions and come to conclusions. They have served all of us well for centuries. I "generally" think that if I walk around in a bad part of town and encounter some blacks that I could be mugged. This does not mean they WILL mug me, just that the chances are higher. Hince, I have the general feeling that I should be on my guard.

I did not lump the military as government workers. For you I will qualify the statement a little better. Let me use the term government drone. Many drones are quick to vote for their share of the spoils in the elections (auctions). Many teachers do the same.

The votes are cast for the guy who will promise and deliver the most goods for the person or block of persons voting.

While I'm at it let me go ahead and add the homos to the blocks as well. There we have a very unhappy and unsocialized group of childless activists who work overtime against the majority culture, unraveling our prevailing mores, and redefining our norms as aberrant, hateful and evil by definition. They have teamed up with the entitlement junkies, the blacks and government drones to wrest the country from conservatives. We should treat militant homosexuals as the enemy - because they are. Just ask em. Their literature and arts don't even try to mask their collective hatred for the straight world of "breeders".



Would you like to tell me that homos are good christian based fellas as well? Some go to church and call themselves christian and saved or whatever. I cant for the life of me see that abomination as christian. Enlighten me please.



BTW, I have and continue to work for the gubmint as a contractor.



Don~

 

[Lhotka]

How are the Conservative Republicans going to deal with population growth? Minorities are by far the fastest growing segment of the population and tend to vote Democratic. Bush is trying to counter this with "immigration amnesty" which many Conservatives don't like. Sounds like being between a rock and a hard place!

 

[rrausch]

If unchecked it will lead to the death of America as we know it. Unchecked Immigration will lead to a "3rd World America", full of a lot of severe poverty and a little bit of startling wealth but very little middle class. This is a prescription for revolution of the lowest sort, with a hundred million 3rd worlders voting themselves property, Gov. checks and other "entitlements". to "Make things fair". White people will be demonized and discriminated against in order to "Make things fair".

Read Pat Buchanan's "The Death of the West".

 

[Power Wagon]

Originally posted by Lhotka

How are the Conservative Republicans going to deal with population growth? Minorities are by far the fastest growing segment of the population and tend to vote Democratic. Bush is trying to counter this with "immigration amnesty" which many Conservatives don't like. Sounds like being between a rock and a hard place!

Most immigrants are conservative, seeking liberty and refuge FROM runaway government. The rest are just trying to get in and feed off the rest of us. THESE are the Democrat voters.

 

[KMC]

I would agree that alot of them probably do have conservative values at the core. The problem though is that when they get here and find that they have elevated status and qualify for all kinds of gov't handouts they will be compromised. There are many who have made stands only to be corrupted and bought by entitlements. Perhaps some will stand on principle but many after being told they are special and after being tempted with goodies they never dreamed of having will bite the forbidden fruit. I could be wrong but human nature is a pretty scary thing... . That is why there in only hope to be found that comes from above!

 

[rrausch]

Carl Jung put it pretty good, "We have tamed nature but we have not tamed Human nature. "



We are born with a good angel on one shoulder and an evil angel on the other. Some people learn to listen more to the good one and some learn to listen more to the evil one. Scariest of all is the Liberal who is CONVINCED his way is righteous. These types will lie, steal, kill, destroy anyone or anything if they feel it will help the "environment" or "minorities" or "the people". They have abandoned what is Right and have settled for what they want, convinced in the goodness of their vision. But like Chairman Mao's vision, when their desire becomes political reality it causes immense suffering and death.

 

[NVR FNSH]

Don M - it's been a while since there has been a thread with this much open racism & hatred displayed.

Regarding, 'blocks' & generalizations - I knew what you meant but I felt I had to call you on it.

FWIW, you are part of a voting block that casts its votes for the canidates that promise you the most. Maybe not a welfare check in the mail, but something you want none the less.

Why does a bad part of town necessarily imply blacks or hispanics? I've seen some pretty rough white neighborhoods that I was more than apprehensive about being in. The people you all are worried about feeding off the public buffet have several things in common. They are immigrants, they are poor, they typically live in urban areas because that is where they can find work & affordable housing. Most of them have more guts than those of us *****ing and moaning about them - they left someplace looking for someplace better... ... As I stated earlier, at one point we were all immigrants. Those bad 'neighborhoods' used to be the Irish, German, Polish etc, etc neighborhoods. For them to vote they had to meet certain requirements and register. One of those requirements is being a citizen of the US - doesn't that make them your equal under the Constitution? They vote based on their best interest - just like you & I do. We may not agree with their politics but it's up to us to do something about it thru the proper channels - VOTE.



Calling all homosexuals 'unhappy & unsocialized' is another great generalization. I would agree with you that militant gays are unhappy & unsocialized but that description fits ALL militant people - gay, muslim, christian, morman, white, black, brown, yellow, hindu. The list is endless. I do not agree with or understand a gay persons lifestyle but I'm the first to say that the gay people I know are better people than a lot of the straight people I know. I wouldn't even try to convince you that Christianity approves of homosexuality. It's an unwinnable (sp?) arguement - religous texts have been used to prove lot's abhorent things. Just look at the WTC attack or the Crusades.

Originally posted by rrausch

Scariest of all is the Liberal who is CONVINCED his way is righteous. These types will lie, steal, kill, destroy anyone or anything if they feel it will help the "environment" or "minorities" or "the people". They have abandoned what is Right and have settled for what they want, convinced in the goodness of their vision. But like Chairman Mao's vision, when their desire becomes political reality it causes immense suffering and death.

Change religous for liberal... ...



Brian

 

[redneckdr]

intellectual integrity

any Ayn Rand fans here?

WHO IS JOHN GALT??

 

[Lhotka]

Originally posted by Power Wagon





Most immigrants are conservative, seeking liberty and refuge FROM runaway government. The rest are just trying to get in and feed off the rest of us. THESE are the Democrat voters.

The above statement is purely conjecture and has no basis in fact. The conservativity of immigrants is only relative to the standards you place on them. Labeling someone as conservative or liberal is not relevant. How they vote is what matters. Satistics support this. Most immigrants seek the economic opportunity the U. S. provides, not political asylum.



Don said, "Latinos vote two to one on the democrat or more liberal side. Not all dems are liberal either. Generalizations on their face are not fair".



The voting power of Latino's is growing. How does an Anti- Democrat combat this?

 

[rrausch]

There are a thousand times more Left wingers & Liberals willing to lie, vandalize, cheat, steal & kill for their cause than Religious folk. The conservative Religious in this country for the most part feel they will eventually have to answer to God for anything wrong that they have done, while the Liberals feel any action at all justifies their sick vision.

White people ended slavery in this country. White people ended racism in this country. Institutional racism is dead. Blacks, Hispanics, Asians can be anything they want to be these days. But it is EVER so convenient to blame "racism" for their plight than to say, "You know... I didn't study enough. "

And too, Liberals know if they can make white people feel guilty they can force their sick agenda on them. That is why you see so many TV programs about 1940's and 1950's racism against minorities.

Today there is MANY TIMES more violence against white people, by "people of color" than there is white against minority violence. Minority violence against white people is NOT going to make things equal. It is only going to convince white people that their racist ancestors were RIGHT after all.

Look at some FBI crime statistics! The race ratios of minority violence against white people are frightening.

 

[Lhotka]

rrausch



You stated, "There are a thousand times more Left wingers & Liberals willing to lie, vandalize, cheat, steal & kill for their cause than Religious folk. " Do the FBI statistics that you refer to support this?



Criminals are criminals. Doesn't matter how they are pollitically connected (Enron investigation).

 

[KMC]

Enron Investigation ??? and what has it shown? Have any "criminals" been found guilty in a court of law? Not. Sounds like you are making a big time assumptions here Lhotka. Innocent until proven guilty, remember?



At face value it appears that they went to the adminstration seeking a bailout and got none. So much for theories of this administration being bought by "big oil"... .

 

[Lhotka]

KMC,



What assumption have I made? It is YOUR suggestion that the Administration (Bush's I assume) was bought out by big oil.



Innocent until proven guilty you claim? Are you suggesting that Bill Clinton did nothing wrong during his term because he wasn't convicted in a court of law?



Bush claimed he was going to restore intergrity the White House. I take that to mean that he won't be defending or will fire any appointee who may be found of wrong doing.



What if Cheney sold a bunch of Enron stock prior to it's collapse?

 

[rrausch]

Lhotka, FBI crime statistics do not track a person's politics, a fact which I am sure you are aware of.