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>Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 18:11:15 -0700

>

>>>Subject: gas prices

>>>

>>>

>>>Subject: Join the resistance! I hear we are going to hit close to

>>>$3. 00 a

>>>gallon by the summer. Want gasoline prices to come down? We need

>>>to take

>>>some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this

>>>good

>>>idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a

>>>certain day"

>>>campaign that was going

>>>around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that

>>>because

>>>they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to

>>>buy gas.

>>>It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for

>>>them.

>>>BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that

>>>can really

>>>work. Please read it and join with us! By now you're probably

>>>thinking

>>>gasoline priced at about $1. 50 is super cheap. Me too! It is

>>>currently

>>>$1. 97 for regular unleaded in my town.

>>>Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned

>>>us to

>>>think that the cost! of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1. 50- $1. 75,

>>>we need

>>>to take

>>>aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the

>>>marketplace... . not

>>>sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we

>>>consumers

>>>need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of

>>>gas come

>>>down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing

>>>their gas!

>>>And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all

>>>rely on our

>>>cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on

>>>gas

>>>prices if we all act together to force a price war. Here's the

>>>idea: For

>>>the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline

>>>from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and

>>>MOBIL. If

>>>they

>>>are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their

>>>prices. If

>>>they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow

>>>suit. But

>>>to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon

>>>and Mobil

>>>gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me

>>>at this

>>>point... keep

>>>reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of

>>>people!!

>>>

>>>I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send

>>>it to at

>>>least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at

>>>least ten

>>>more (300 x 10 = 3,000)... and so on, by the time the message

>>>reaches the

>>>sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE

>>>MILLION

>>>consumers! If those three million get excited and ! pass this on

>>>to ten

>>>friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If

>>>it goes

>>>one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION

>>>PEOPLE!!!

>>>

>>>Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.

>>>(If you

>>>don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to

>>>do is

>>>send this to 10 people... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a

>>>mathematician.

>>>But I am ... so trust me on this one. )

>>>

>>>How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out

>>>to ten

>>>more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people

>>>could

>>>conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you

>>>didn't

>>>think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together

>>>we can

>>>make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this

>>>message on.

>>>PLEASE HOLD OUT

>>>UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1. 30 RANGE AND KEEP THEM

>>>DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!

" IT makes good sense to me"
 
I haven't bought gas from either of those companies in over 10 years, but prices are still high. I don't get it.
 
It won't work. It's been going around for years. I only buy gas and diesel from Exxon or Mobil and I don't plan on stopping.
 
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Yes it can work.

Well avoiding Exxon and Mobile stations around here (ND) is no problem - mostly Cenex and Texaco or Conoco. How do we know which independents get their gas from (are "branded" by) Ex or Mo though? Maybe we just go to the obvious alternatives. I have a feeling that the big oil companies swap reserves behind the back of the public. The ones who would really feel it would be the convenience store owners attached to the fuel sales. Don't stop for gas, don't buy any $4 twinkies.
 
Gas prices

Well I don't want to start a war but since we are already squabbling over oil, what the heck.



Oil is cheap. My dad said that gas was 9 cents when he first started driving. In the 20s. The oil companys began to say that the oil was giving out. Sound familiar. When it got up to 12 cents the shortage went away. The difference in wage levels then and now is 200 percent which means that in equal dollars, gas should be 9 dollars a gallon now. I was in France about ten years ago and gas was about $4. 00 there then. There are no easy answers to the energy question.



When I was 14 I could only buy enough to run my scooter. A couple of bucks a week. Now I can buy all I want and go anytime I want. And I do.



I have seen the email you mention. I am sure it would impact the market but I am not sure what the end result would be. Break Mobil. Break Exxon. Give someone a bigger piece of the pie.



Use it and abuse it till it is gone. Everyone else is and you can't do a thing about it. But remember that it is a finite resource.



1stgen4evr

James
 
Fuel prices have been discussed lately on this thread too if you had not checked it out. https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95630

I have been giving this some thought lately and have come to the conclusion that I for one won't be a part of any boycott. First off, while I don't speed excessively, I am no street angel either. Besides my 31 mile each way commute, I used ~500 gallons of ag fuel around the farm last year.



So why won't I join a boycott? I have not seen any noticable change in driving behavior around my neck of the woods that's why. Do you really think big oil will feel any pain over your endeavors? I think small business owners and underpaid staff trying to eck out a living may.



I am trying to maintain a steady throttle and minimize excessive trips.
 
I get sick of the gas prices as well. However, I'm not so sure things like this are the way (IMHO). It may rally the troops (so to speak), but not so effective. Like James said, you're just giving someone a bigger peice of the pie. There is a big enough demand for it and and really no other alternitave except for Boidiesel or propane (which would be alright) for our current powerplants. If you calculate for inflation, gas in the 60's was $4-5/gal.



Once the fuel reserves start to run dry and prices go up, people and companies will start to look towards alternitave fuels and probly not until then. Why, you ask?

First of all exploring alternitive fuels will obviously cost money with out profit at first; and I doubt that many companies will do this willingly.

Second, petro fuels are tried and true, not much money to invest in and it's one hell of a money maker. More resistance from the oil companies.

Third, poeple are resistant to change. Realisticaly how many people would really want to change to an alternitive fuel blindly (weather they are conscious about the situation or not). Who (as a whole) would really want to be a guinea pig? It's human nature.



Bottom line is the ca$h. Not to say it's right, just reality in my mind. Unless somone or some company really wants to invest the time I think we're stuck with what we have. Not that I am happy about, I think we have it pretty good.



And on that note, let the war begin... .....
 
Being only a mile from work I can walk when weather permits, and do.

If you commute, drive a gas squeezer. Save the fuel consumption for pleasure and work vehicles. It won't do a thing to the oil companies, but sure is easy on the pocket at fillup time.
 
Originally posted by baby. driver

Being only a mile from work I can walk when weather permits, and do.

If you commute, drive a gas squeezer.



When the weather gets better and the 3 feet of snow melt off, I plan on doing that. I only live <1 mile from work and do not like doing that to my diesel.



I want to buy a house soon so that may mean moving an hour away to afford the mortgage. When that happens I would like to get a TDI..... 50mpg all the way baby!:cool: But keep the CTD of course
 
Gosh no.

I don't start the truck unless it is to be run a half hour at least.

The poor baby spends most of it's time in the garage.

Oh Well.
 
Originally posted by baby. driver

Gosh no.

I don't start the truck unless it is to be run a half hour at least.

The poor baby spends most of it's time in the garage.

Oh Well.



I know, I freakin' hate it. If it's really cold I try to drive it around for a while if I have time. Sometimes I have no choice though. :{



Never heard the $3. 00/gal before but it wouldn'r surprise me if it got kicked around prior to this. I have a feeling it will be a while before we see that (I need some wood to knock on!).



-Kyle
 
Yet another internet Scam... . I've received that same email more than 10 times, just this week alone.



The ONLY thing we have to blame for the fuel prices are our dependency on foreign oil, and our love to drive big ineffeicient SUV's.
 
Originally posted by klenger

I haven't bought gas from either of those companies in over 10 years, but prices are still high. I don't get it.

It will take a combined effort of multitudes to have a n effect.

The more that get together the more that can be accomplished. You know the saying "Strength in numbers":)
 
Your right!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Jeff Clark

This is being covered in another section. It won't work. It's been going around for years. I only buy gas and diesel from Exxon or Mobil and I don't plan on stopping.

And statements like the above quote are one of the reasons that keep things from happening. People cannot get together to accomplish a goal. NO TEAMWORK!!!!!!!:(
 
How can this be a scam?

Originally posted by Dkevdog

Yet another internet Scam... . I've received that same email more than 10 times, just this week alone.



The ONLY thing we have to blame for the fuel prices are our dependency on foreign oil, and our love to drive big ineffeicient SUV's.



No scam, a person simply reads it and decides to participate for the common good of all, or not! It is really like participating in our political structure. Those that do not vote, really do not have a right to complain about what happens to them. Remember, "strength in numbers". If we do not pull together, we fall apart. A good example is when someone else suggested that the "truckers" "do something about the fuel prices"! If we were to expect to let them do it alone, and not support them, it would not help anyone. We have to work as a team.

And, dependency on foreign oil is not the ONLY thing in this equasion. Corporate GREED is another factor. What percentage??
 
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One of the aspects to the email was to just do this boycott thing only long enough to bring them in line. Not to break anyone. But it will not work here in America, because we as a country cannot get enough people together to accomplish any good for ourselves. There are to many that "just don't care". Or there are enough that have it made, and do not feel the need to participate, or for whatever reason, will not jump on the bandwagon, because they themselves did not bring up the concept. We as a people have to be ordered to do something, by one other person, or a small group of people, before we do anything. We simply cannot get together by ourselves to accomplish things of this magnitude. Sad but true:(
 
Doesn't matter anyway. Just because diesel is made at an Exxon refinery, doesn't mean it's sold as Exxon diesel.



Let's say you quit buying all ExxonMobil diesel. But, continue to buy diesel from Chevron, Conoco, or Shell. All Exxon does is call one or all of the other oil companies and sells any suplus diesel to them.



How is that hurting ExxonMobil?



The only way to lower demand of fuel is to stop using it. That means driving less. And with people living further and further away from work than ever, that is unlikey to happen anytime soon.



But if not buying ExxonMobil products thinks you made a difference, by all means, go for it.
 
Barbwire, this IS a scam. This crap has been on the net for years. Do a search through the TDR archieves and you will see more than can read in a day. I have credit with Exxon/Mobil and they have stations everywhere where I live. I'll burn more fuel going out of my way to buy diesel elsewhere. Defetes the purpose doesn't it?
 
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