Injectors?

[LaserBob]

Hi there you 1st Gen owners. I have a friend with a 93 1 ton 4X4. He asked what(from whom) injectors to get to improve performance. What do you do with the pump on these? I volunteered you guys for an information source. Hope that you can give me a few clues to pass on to him.

Thanks lots
Bob Berends

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95 2500 auto reg cab TST # 12 (a friend had this one extra)for now. Wastegate gets No signal. 136K,Just installed DTT VB & Convertor,(2/22/01)WOW! Bob Berends

 

[komual]

I got my "powerwagon injectors" from Tim at City Diesel for about $35 per, really woke the truck up. I did nothing to the pump, pumps on these rigs are pushing about all they can, without sacrificing some measure of reliability, in stock form... Don't have the phone # handy, but I'm sure someone does...

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1993 W350 Club Cab 5 speed dually. P. W. injectors, Banks stinger, pyro, boost and tach, 22 lbs of boost, and rising... Hey, 'stroke this buddy!

 

[My 6 Eats V8's Old File]

you can get the same bosch injectors through BD(worth 25-30hp) and also get the Lucas injectors(around 50hp) from them also.
1800 887 5030 ask for Piers.

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96 4x4, 3. 54 posi, 6. 5"lift, 35" bfg m/t's and 35x14. 5x16. 5 boggers,dual stabalizers, aluminium wheels, sport headlights,billet grill, K/N 0880, NOS, Performance Diesel LPG, BD Pulling/Competition fuel injection pump,370hp marine injectors, ported head, Hx40 w/ 16cm2, 4" exhaust w/ 2 chamber Flomaster, BD copetition auto transmission and torque converter, Kenwood sterio System, Westach 60lb boost/ egt guage with warning light,aluminium bed rail covers,chrome diff covers, 5 foot traction bars,
475hp and 1050lb of torque on #2
530hp and 1140 with bullydog lpg maxed(only 55hp)
590hp and 1200 with lpg and nos
all done in 5th gear with 35's.
have a great day.
Adam

 

[bigkid59]

You can reach Tim at City Diesel at 1-800-950-2489.

I got mine a couple of months ago but have not installed them yet. Also get him to send the small parts kit that contains all the sealing washers so that you will have everything you need. This bit of advice applies no matter who you buy them from.

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92 D250 Auto Trans-Currently stock except for TCI special torque convertor. Now adding 16cm turbo housing, complete 4" exhaust, tachometer, pyrometer, and transmission temperature gauge. Injectors in the near future.
Also have 1984 Volvo D260 with inline 6 diesel made by Volkswagen.

 

[LaserBob]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the phone numbers and the advice for my friend. I will pass this along for his future bombing.

Bob Berends

 

[Matt S]

Don't be forgeting Big Don who discovered the benefits of the Lucas injectors.
Don Peters
Don’s Tractor Repair
1120 Cooper street
Church Hill, TN 37642
423-361-5491
423-357-7230


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90 W250, 5-speed, isspro gauges, 16 cm2, K&N, Borgeson shaft, JRE 3" exhaust, Banks Intercooler, Lucas injectors

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

DO the above comments also apply to the '89-early '91 Cummins - or do they require different injectors for added performance?

ALSO, what price range are we talking here for a complete set?

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http://community. webshots.com/user/davison71 Early '91 250, 727 AT, 307 rear... Banks Stinger exhaust, intercooler... US Gear OD... Tweaked pump, upgraded radiator... MORE than a match for every new PS Ford encountered so far...

"Dura" WHAT? NOW I know where all those recycled beer cans go...

[This message has been edited by Gary - KJ6Q (edited 04-07-2001). ]

 

[SRT-6]

The Lucas injectors are the ones you want for the 89-91 non intercooled. Powerwagons make less power than stock on the non intercooled trucks.

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88 GMC CREW CAB 4X4 89 6BT,NO INTERCOOLER YET,AUTO METER LIQUID FILLED GAUGES,NV4500,NP205,4. 10's,35 BFGA/TKO,6" LIFT,DETROIT LOCKER,16CM,K&N,3. 5 EXHAUST,BD "PRINCE OF DARKNESS"INJECTORS 96 215 hp on the way. J. Mason

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

DERN - I shoulda been more specific, but in this case, there may not be enough similar setups like mine in this group to provide an answer - you see, *I* have added the Banks intercooler, so don't know if that alone places me in the later Cummins ('91. 5-'93), or still in the early configuration...

Guess a call to one of the suppliers is in order...

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http://community. webshots.com/user/davison71 Early '91 250, 727 AT, 307 rear... Banks Stinger exhaust, intercooler... US Gear OD... Tweaked pump, upgraded radiator... MORE than a match for every new PS Ford encountered so far...

"Dura" WHAT? NOW I know where all those recycled beer cans go...

 

[Matt S]

It is not the intercooler but the head. The non-intercooled trucks have 9 mm tips on the injectors where as the intercooled trucks have 7 mm tips. This was to strengthen the head from cracking. You will need to get 'reducers' to use any of the injectors. The Power Wagons will NOT give you ANY performance gain. You will actually loose power compared to stock. The Lucas/Prince of Darkness/Old Blue Specials would be the only performance increase choice currently available.

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90 W250, 5-speed, isspro gauges, 16 cm2, K&N, Borgeson shaft, JRE 3" exhaust, Banks Intercooler, Lucas injectors

 

[Matt S]

The power is great. I've adjusted the pump about 1. 5 to 1. 75 turns. The heat is about 950 degress max pre turbo. I am trying to find a 14 cm2 housing for it but the A/C went and I need that more than I need the power. The rest of the mods are in my signature. If you want more specifics I'd be happy to give them.

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90 W250, 5-speed, isspro gauges, 16 cm2, K&N, Borgeson shaft, JRE 3" exhaust, Banks Intercooler, Lucas injectors

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

MATT - thanks for info - since you have the same Banks stuff I have, and are using the Lucas injectors, what do you think of the power gain, and have you done any pump adjustment/mods?

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http://community. webshots.com/user/davison71 Early '91 250, 727 AT, 307 rear... Banks Stinger exhaust, intercooler... US Gear OD... Tweaked pump, upgraded radiator... MORE than a match for every new PS Ford encountered so far...

"Dura" WHAT? NOW I know where all those recycled beer cans go...

 

[SRT-6]

Matt,Or anyone else running the lucas injectors, How much boost are you getting out of your current combination?

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88 GMC CREW CAB 4X4 89 6BT,NO INTERCOOLER YET,AUTO METER LIQUID FILLED GAUGES,NV4500,NP205,4. 10's,35 BFGA/TKO,6" LIFT,DETROIT LOCKER,16CM,K&N,3. 5 EXHAUST,BD "PRINCE OF DARKNESS"INJECTORS 96 215 hp on the way. J. Mason

 

[Matt S]

Right now I'm getting 22-23 psi or so. I have it turned back from my first 'guess' at the fuel screw. The max I can get is 30 psi. I've got a lot of black smoke that I still need to adjust out but I am only getting 950 degrees at WOT in 5th. I am going to adjust this when it gets warmer so I can get max power without melt down when towing. I would also like to get a 14 cm2 housing.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

MATT - the setup you are shooting for looks pretty much like my ultimate plan - larger injectors and the 14cm housing - with max boost at 30lbs. This is to be primarily used in heavy pulling situations loaded, and on long steep grades. Naturally, it will be expected to function properly empty, and around town as well.

I'm laying the groundwork for transmission/TC upgrades as well, and have just finished beefing up my cooling system - and have both boost and pyro guages installed, and will soon be installing a transmission heat guage as well as the deeper cast aluminum transmission pan.

If anyone sees potential problems with this, comments would be appreciated.

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http://community. webshots.com/user/davison71 Early '91 250, 727 AT, 307 rear... Banks Stinger exhaust, intercooler... US Gear OD... Tweaked pump, upgraded radiator... MORE than a match for every new PS Ford encountered so far...

"Dura" WHAT? NOW I know where all those recycled beer cans go...

 

[Stab]

Stabco has the housings and the PW injecters you need for the 93 trucks!

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Owner: Stabco Repower- -- email address removed -- The turbo housing guys. '89, CC, SB, 5sp, 3. 54, 16cm2 housing, intercooled, maxed fuel, KN, Banks exh w/muffler, Horton fan clutch, Autometer liquid filled gauges, Accessory tach option, 100% Dyna-Mat, Borgeson steering shaft, Firestone air bags, Chrysler V-twin air comp, 2. 5" lift, Rancho Shocks, Alcoa LTS wheels (recalled), BFG 255/85/R16 MTs (33. 3")