Intercooler Idea

[BJMarshall]

I think it was more like an inch. I'll measure again and let you know. I believe it would clear if the supports on the bottom of the hood were removed. I just didn't want a case of flaccid hood.



Love your sig!

 

[dpuckett]

The water-to-air aftercooler I saw in a ~86 Chevy had a 3" body lift to make it all clear under the hood. Didnt look to bad, even if it was a 2wd.

 

[DieselTweaker]

Pics of cooler and tank

Hey guy's take a look in my gallery I just put up some pic's of my cooler as well of my hole truck I hope you enjoy, btw I use a flojet 12v pump for the water seem's to work very well, and I know the line's dont look very good right now but ive been kinda busy, any questions feel free to ask.

 

[BJMarshall]

Sweet.

Did you have any trouble fitting it under the hood. When I measured mine It looked like it would hit the hood braces.

 

[Headshot zod]

Well... . would it fit under this cowl induction hood click on the 72-93 dodge trucks, scroll down half-way down the page. Check out the cowl induction hood. It gives you an extra three inches (did I just say that, damn). Oo.

 

[DieselTweaker]

I don't have any problems, I have plenty of room. USbody makes some nice parts but I'm not to fond of glass hoods on diesel, plus you have to change your springs or go with a hood prop and pins, if I'm not mistaken, and as for a 3 extra inch's where do I sign. Oo.

 

[bgilbert]

Well Scott what about the injection lines from a VE powered water to air aftercooled CTD? I see how Partsman installed an aftercooler with a p-pump. Would one have to change all injection lines on a VE powered CTD?

You guys that already have a CAC this might not be worth your time, but us dinosaur non-ic'd guys I imagine any decrease in intake temps would be worth it. ? I'm interested in this water aftercooler. How would it plumb to the cooling system? If there a different style t-stat housing required? I would rather plumb it to the cooling system rather than a remote tank. Since finding a intercooler is tough, this might be a idea for us non-ic'd guys. I would like more input on this ? tia

 

[Forrest Nearing]

water has about 300times the thermal capacity of air... the key to a street driven air/water intercooler setup is a proper heat exchanger... one of the cheapest ways to get a good exhanger is to run the water through an AC condenser... plate style transmission coolers work great, but they're pricey.



for someone who hauls a lot and is constantly under steady high boost levels, the air/water won't really gain you much...



BUT, for running empty, if you've got a good heat exchanger, what happens is the water is generally kept a little warmer than ambient air, but when you get into the boost, the waters thermal capacity cools the charge air MUCH better than an air/air cooler. now... the water will heat soak obviously, but it'll cool great when you lay into it briefly to "pass" that powerstroke or Duramax, and then when you go back to light throttle, the water is cooled back down by the heat exchanger.



NOW, another added benefit of the air/water setup is being able to add ice to the resovoir at the track. this can actually drop charge temps BELOW ambient!! that's tasty stuff right there



now, will that little intake mounted cooler do all this? don't know, it's fairly small... I've been wanting to experament with one, but getting one to fit under the hood of my 2nd gen poses a challenge, and the cost of the cooler and lines adds up to about the same price as a NICE aftermarket air/water cooler that would work FAR better than ANY air/air cooler you could ever dream of fitting.



Forrest

 

[Forrest Nearing]

PS, I'm comparing air/water to air/air... obviously, the air/water is FAR better than no cooler at all!

 

[JLEONARD]

If you guys take a look in my "reader's rigs" you will see the marine version of the air to water cooler that mounts onto the intake manifold. My marine engine is P pumped though, but you'll see how it mounts and how our fuel lines would be in the way.

FWIW, the next "step up" in marine hp, the 330 and 370 hp engines have a seperate air to water aftercooler that is raw or sea water cooled. It is a strap on type unit that could be mounted anywhere, and plumbed into the air and coolant system.

Forrest... you could use one of those in addition to your stock intercooler.

I don't have a part number available, but could probably get it.

E C Jay

 

[Headshot zod]

I have a link for those strap=on units somewhere. I'll post it here when I find them.

 

[Headshot zod]

Mesa Marine



scroll down to cummins, get the model numbers and maybe you could find a used one somewhere...

 

[Greenleaf]

The VE44 powerd engine w/the intake mounted air/water cooler does have some differnt injection lines. On our rigs, the lines toward the front pass between the 1st and 2nd valve cover I think. (I setting by the pool now, NOT looking @ my truck) On the air/water cooler equiped engine, the injection lines are routed to the front of the #1 valve cover because the cooler sets in the way.



I could probably obtain the part # of the lines when I git back home in a week or two.



The coolant is picked up @ one of the small plugs in our cylinder head. My engine in the bus has a tube here in place of the plug. The other line is where we have a heater line (next to the #1 valve cover)



I would use water separate from the cooling system.



-S