Juice without Attitude?

[ECappleman]

Anybody run this?

Hows the power?

 

[DieselFiend]

I'd like to know the same. i've got the J/A but I want to get rid of the attitude and switch over to regular guages.

 

[ECappleman]

I've got all analog guages and would like to use just the juice.

 

[ramtifosi]

Juice no Attitude has three power levels from a toggle switch - 25hp, 40 hp and 80 hp with Attitude you get 5 - 20hp, 40hp, 60 hp, 80 hp and 100hp. You also do not get the defueling features to limit EGT but I'm not sure if you still get trans or clutch slippage feature or the speedometer correction for oversized tires. The Attitude has about 10 functions, you can monitor. If you use the center winshield mount for the Attitude, your A pillar is free to mount other guages. Hope this helps answer your questions.



Charlie

 

[CATwrench]

I've had great results w/ mine. It's plenty of power on the top setting for a stock motor/drivetrain, I wouldn't want any more unless I had transmision money burning a whole in my pocket. The only problem I have had is that they sent me one for a 3. 73 rear end instead of 4. 10.

 

[ECappleman]

I knew about all the features. My only concern was not being able to adjust the low end fueling. It is set at level 3 by default.

I had a Quad chip and was not happy with the low end. With only a level 3 setting, does it still have plenty of low end grunt?



People with the Juice/Attitude could answer the low level 3 setting.

 

[Cattletrkr]

I can't really tell much difference between LBF's 3 and 5. I think to feel the differnece you need an aftermarket turbo. LBF 1 sucks, feels almost stock until it's wound up.

 

[ramtifosi]

ECappleman,



Apparently you cannot adjust fueling without the Attitude, there has been many posts about how to do it as it confusing to many. I too had a Quad RACE and got rid of it because of problems with my Ebrake and Quad's lack of help. Personally I do not get the idea that they have good customer service (no help in eight months).

 

[ECappleman]

ECappleman,



Apparently you cannot adjust fueling without the Attitude, there has been many posts about how to do it as it confusing to many.

??????

You got me confused with that statement.

 

[ramtifosi]

Sorry to confuse you. What I meant was with the Attitude, getting the fueling setting (1 to 5) to save at different power levels(1 to 5), you must do them one at a time and save the setting. You cannot move power level to power level change the fueling level setting and save them all. Someone in the thread also mentions that they had 4. 10s and their box was set at 3. 73, do you know if eariler units do not have the jumpers in them to set your axle ratio? If so, mine is probably newer as it can be set by taking the end plate off and changing the jumpers.

 

[ECappleman]

Ok,

I new this, but you need the Attitude.

That was why you confused me.

 

[ramtifosi]

Apparently the other folks who posted to the thread did not, so I answered to the questions which they had, it may have not been the original non specific question.

 

[ECappleman]

Well... .

I bought one. We shall see.

 

[Doughboy21kd]

What I am in question about is: If you run the Juice w/o the attitude, wouldn't that be the same as an Edge EZ..... Maybe theres a difference?



What are the differences between the Juice w/o attitude and the Edge EZ?

 

[JRD]

for the 04. 5-05 the Juice without Attitude would be just a timing/duration box without all the extra adjustability options. Where the EZ is a pressure only box. Thats the difference.

 

[Doughboy21kd]

So what would the better box be? Does a guy want to do timing and duration, or Pressure????



I have heard of most people doind the Edge EZ..... Rather than the Juice w/o Attitude...

 

[JRD]

Well its kind of just personal preference. I chose my TST because it does NOT increase rail pressure and still provides excellent power. Where the Juice does the same thing. Alot of people on here are afraid of increasing rail pressure, Im one of them (keep in mind your rail pressure is already 23,500+/-psi). But on the flip side, alot of people dont mind increasing rail pressures. If I were you and was tossing the idea around of either a Juice or EZ... Id opt for the Juice. Hope this helps

 

[Diesel Power]

i can tell you that the 03-04 juice w/attitude does increase rail pressure a good bit and the hot is even more, it will hot or not eventually ruin your relief valve , it did mine twice before i caped the rail, also most are afraid of pressure because they are not sure of the set-up that is required for relability. you cant just throw something together and expect it to work with out problems---most just dont have time or money to test different combos or go through trial and error. pressure will make the most power vs timing or duration. whaen all are present at the right time and within the right combo you will see awsome #'s and a reliable package. :-laf

 

[ECappleman]

Also in the 03-04 models, the EZ has no in-cab adjustability.

I found this Juice w/o for $200 off of the going price. Figured what the hell.



To get to 80hp the EZ, Ram, ect. add alot of preasure. The Juice adds a little, with alot of timing and duration. They also say it runs cooler. We shall see.



I was trying to find something with a little bit better response and saftey or my Quad chip. Also the Quad would kill my truck when ever a CB was keyed up.

 

[ramtifosi]

Paid $664 for my Juice/Attitude and subsequently had it brought up to HOT for no charge via TDR membership. QUAD needs to address a lot of problems instead of blowing them off. Your CB issue is supposetly known while my Ebrake issue was new (8 months ago), personally I am sick of hearing how good their customer sevrice is (cause it ain't) both you and I are proof of that. Wake up QUAD the BS has to stop.