Just tried the newest Smarty Beta

[ASchwartz]

Bob, can you send me a fix so that I can run Beta 4. 4 or the wild smarty that I was running previously. The low smoke and no balls at low rpm is frustrating. #@$%!



Thanks,



Avi

 

[OT-OF-HERE!!]

Bob,

You have PM mail.

 

[Cattletrkr]

What software would a new Smarty come loaded with?

 

[JVolpe]

I believe after looking at the definitions on the web site that it (when built and loaded) would come with the current stock turbo/injector and Mild TM. It states (standard Smarty software) under those versions.

 

[Bob Wagner]

What software would a new Smarty come loaded with?

I will load it up with the newest software prior to shipment.





You be a great feedback source.

 

[Cattletrkr]

I will load it up with the newest software prior to shipment.


You be a great feedback source.

I took the Juice out a couple weeks ago so I could get a good baseline on EGT's vs. stock.

What setting do I want for towing? I usually run the Juice on 2 (40hp). I'm thinkng 30hp on the Smarty.

 

[JCasper]

I took the Juice out a couple weeks ago so I could get a good baseline on EGT's vs. stock.



What setting do I want for towing? I usually run the Juice on 2 (40hp). I'm thinkng 30hp on the Smarty.

How heavy are you towing?



I towed on Level 1 all summer, but with the newest SW I towed on level 5 last time and had no egt issues. I was grossing about 21K this last load.

 

[Cattletrkr]

How heavy are you towing?
I was grossing about 21K this last load.

You're a little over 1/2 way there. 40K is about max. Typical is 35-37K.

 

[JCasper]

You're a little over 1/2 way there. 40K is about max. Typical is 35-37K.

That's heavy.

 

[J_Da_Fox]

Has anyone dynoed this software with the tst?? Something like sw#3 and tst on 2x2? Just a thought. Might have heard something in the wind about good numbers from this combination. I don't have access to a dyno, otherwise I'd do it myself.

 

[JCasper]

Has anyone dynoed this software with the tst?? Something like sw#3 and tst on 2x2? Just a thought. Might have heard something in the wind about good numbers from this combination. I don't have access to a dyno, otherwise I'd do it myself.

I don't have access to a TST otherwise I would try and dyno.





Wanna send me one?:-laf

 

[Bob Wagner]

Has anyone dynoed this software with the tst?? Something like sw#3 and tst on 2x2? Just a thought. Might have heard something in the wind about good numbers from this combination. I don't have access to a dyno, otherwise I'd do it myself.

New Dyno Numbers on my 06'-WOW!/Thanks Marco and Bob! - Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums

 

[JasonCzerak]

Unless I get on the dyno for an hour or so, I won't get any numbers as far as stock turbo, cp3, injectors goes until spring.



Even street tuning it's rather pointless this time a year. Until March/april things will be slick. Like a week after a snow, the roads are dry enough for a 4x4 60mph+ run with out any real risk of losing traction for my low HP truck. :-laf



HOWEVER.

Running the latest Smarty software on #9. TST r49AP with timing off, boost fooling on, 2hp,0tq,2rail. She pulls VERY WELL. when I put things on 3/0/2 The rail drains a bit I think, I haven't gotten a good chance in a weeks to mess with 3/0/2 or 4/0/2 and monitor the gauge in relation to RPM. The more RPM, the more HP numbers you can naturally. Plus the smarty is backing down as well allowing for bigger HP number.



I was thinking of running the smarty on 5 or 7 and more numbers on the TST, but the new software is so smooth, it's not needed. Moderate TQ managment is very driveable now unlike previous versions. But then again, maybe I just trained my foot on a more delicate egg?



I will over the holidays do the FCA mod So I won't be able to claim stock CP3.



And to think, this truck offically feels faster then the Edge combinations, and it's on winter fuel, on winter traction. ohh I can't wait to dyno it again.

 

[J_Da_Fox]

Well that gentleman got 581 hp and 1030 tq. Unfortunately, he used the tsts timing and not the smartys. I believe 640 is possible with this combination, or so I was told on some dynoing being done with this setup. And beings there is no pressure added with the tst or smarty, I wonder if the ez or some other pressure box would increase this gain. Oh how I wish I had access to a dyno!!

 

[JasonCzerak]

With the much cooler running smarty software, I'm willing to bet 550 is possible out of the stock turbo on fuel only.

 

[RobertP]

i did that on the old program with the stock turbo. 555HP 1016TQ. i would say with this new smarty that the egts will be much lower id bet that soemone could make closer to 580HP on the stock turbo.

bob some of us are banned over on DTR and can not see the new dyno Numbers. can you post them please. thanks

 

[Bob Wagner]

i did that on the old program with the stock turbo. 555HP 1016TQ. i would say with this new smarty that the egts will be much lower id bet that soemone could make closer to 580HP on the stock turbo.



bob some of us are banned over on DTR and can not see the new dyno Numbers. can you post them please. thanks

Give Wade my regard's











John_P

Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002

Location: Holly Ridge, N. C.

Posts: 1,980



New Dyno Numbers on my 06'-WOW!/Thanks Marco and Bob!



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I told many of you that I would post my new dyno numbers as soon as I was able to get back to the dyno with my 2006 Dodge CTD CR and last night myself, Bobby Downes (dperf), Cris Sonnichsen (masonic_dodge), and Dan Zilles made it back to "Waynes Dyno and Performance" in Jacksonville, N. C.



To give you all some background, I was running the "TST PM 3 CR" Fueling Box with R-49 and a Schwitzer 62/12 Turbo. Bottom end was lacking after removing the stock turbo and installing the Schwitzer 62/12 and my friend Bobby Downes recommended I buy and install the Smarty telling me "You will get all that bottom-end back John!" Well, my sincere thanks to Bobby, because he was right! I got all that bottom end back AND MORE! I ordered my Smarty through Lary Ellis (Top) here in the DTR Store and Bob Wagner set it up for me with the Smarty "Wild" Program. Well, with that set-up, (TST "stacked" with the Smarty), I laid down 534 H. P. /988 TQ. on David Dunbars "Dynojet 248C" back on Saturday June 30, 2007 at the "Claremont, Va. Diesel Rally. "



Well since then, and with my sincere thanks to Bob Wagner I have upgraded to the 4. 10 Beta Program. All I can say is WOW!!! Last night I made three runs with my truck on Wayne Murphys' Dynojet 248C and listed here below is all the data of those three runs:





Run #1: TST set @ 2/0, Smarty on Level #8-------------567 H. P. /1002 TQ.



Run #2: TST set on 3/0, Smarty on Level #8------------577 H. P. /1026 TQ.



Run #3: TST set on 3/1, Smarty on Level #8------------581 H. P. /1030 TQ.

(on this run we turned the timing up from 9 to 12)



To summarize the data some, the 4. 10 Beta Program gave me thirty-four (34)

more horespower and fourteen (14) more ft. lbs. of torque than the Smarty "Wild" Program! Cranking the TST up on H. P. slightly (2-3) added ten (10) more H. P. and twenty four (24) more ft. lbs. of torque. And finally, adding one more number on the TST "torque" setting, and dialing in some more timing, (9-12 degrees) took the power up forty-seven H. P. and forty-two on torque with the 4. 10 Beta versus the 4. 06 "Wild" Program!



These three runs are "uncorrected numbers. "



Run Conditions:



Temperature: 59 degrees

Humidity: 24%

Barometric Pressure: 30. 39

Correction Factor: 1. 00



I was AMAZED that I am able to make almost 600 H. P. with having just the TST, the Smarty Programmer with Bob and Marcos' tune, my Schwitzer 62/12 Turbo and the modified transmission!! LOL!! I still have STOCK injectors and a STOCK fuel system! Bobby Downes, Cris Sonnichsen and Dan Zilles were all there with me as witnesses on this. The fuel pressure on Runs #2 and #3 was down to 2-3 lbs. and I am planning on installing a Walbro Pump here after the holidays to help that.



Anyway, I thought you guys might like to see the data and again want to thank Marco, Bob Wagner, Bobby Downes and also Tim Barber for everything! The fact that a truck like mine, with no more modifications than it has, speaks volumes about the power and quality that these Smarty Programmers have! As I said, I am truly amazed and impressed with these numbers. I have to again say, that the installation of the Smarty Programmer on my 2006 Dodge CTD CR is the BEST performance modification that I have done to my truck! Thank you again Marco and Bob Wagner!



Merry Christmas!



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John_P

 

[Regcabguy]

Don't ban me 'bro.

I almost got banned over kidding a guy about posting a brownie recipe on a diesel site. Kinda sensitive over there. :-laf

 

[JasonCzerak]

i did that on the old program with the stock turbo. 555HP 1016TQ. i would say with this new smarty that the egts will be much lower id bet that soemone could make closer to 580HP on the stock turbo.



bob some of us are banned over on DTR and can not see the new dyno Numbers. can you post them please. thanks

ohhh I forgot about that!

 

[BILLVO]

I will over the holidays do the FCA mod So I won't be able to claim stock CP3.

I am new to the 3rd gen CR scene and am curious as to what the FCA mod is?