Line-X or not to Line-X

[Dean Upson]

I have no frame of reference to Line-x but I was told by two separate Rhino-Liner dealers to go with the black because UV doesn't fade the black as much as the colors. They will mix up any color you want (for a price).



Dean

 

[midlife crisis]

Well thats uplifting. The truck only has 8k miles after 2 years. It lives in the barn. I am thinking the limited exposure may not become an issue. Heres the plan-The front, sides, and gate will be covered in aluminum dp, with just the floor (showing) in blue spray-on. I will call the dealer in Del tomorrow, or try to find a Rhino dealer. Thanks very much for the replies- Drew

 

[Jeremiah]

I agree. If color is what he's into, Rhino is the way to go. If he's into black, either one would probably work. I chose Line-X based on a friend's truck who had it installed for years and it still looks great - and he uses it to haul stuff too! I can't criticize Rhino because I never used it and don't know anyone (other than Dean) who has it and he loves it (smile).

 

[PJ]

The dealer in Grants Pass Oregon would have done mine in Atlantic Blue, but I would have had to pay for the complete 55gallon drum. Black looks just fine!

 

[Featherman]

Line X

Just had my truck bed, lower quarters and my whole tail gate linexd. Now I can bang it, scrape it, wash it with no fear of any damage. Also :-laf looks awesome.

 

[ben_ak]

I indirectly know the owner of the local auth. Line-X dealer here in Anchorage and a high school buddy of mine recently bought the Rhino franchise in Anchorage as well. Both of them say the single most important factor how well the liner holds up is proper application. Personaly, I perfer Rhino... my truck is color matched (extra $100) over the rail and on my rocker panels, this is the second truck I've had "Rhinoed" and I am very happy with it. Yes, sharp objects have left a few scrapes but, I always have been taken care of. Also, from what I understand, colored rhino applications now use a different UV sealer for less fading (starting in late '02?). Of course for the prices mentioned at the start of this thread, I think I might give Line-X a try.



-Ben

 

[anestech]

How does rhino due when wet, in terms of keeping it's grip? A buddy of mine did the entire interior of his bronco in LineX and that stuff it tough (will take the skin off your knuckles/knees) but when it got wet, it was slick.



Say you are loading a dirt bike, with muddy riding boots on in a Rhino truck vs LineX truck? LineX tends to be almost as slippery as paint. How does rhino do?

 

[PatrickCampbell]

Line-X rules. I just paid $420 for OTR 8 ft bed and they removed all my hardware for me and put it back too.

 

[Jeremiah]

Buddy of mine has Line-X over the rail. He loads a dirt bike regularly and hasn't complained.

 

[Punkineater]

I've had Arma Tuff, Rhino and Line-X and Line-X has by far been the best of the three. Go for it.

 

[Jeremiah]

I agree, but the question was, is Line-X slick when it's wet?

 

[Punkineater]

I agree, but the question was, is Line-X slick when it's wet?

Sorry I thought the question and title of the thread was Line-X or not to Line-X. They all perform basically the same when wet.

 

[Matt400]

Heres the plan-The front, sides, and gate will be covered in aluminum dp, with just the floor (showing) in blue spray-on.

Be sure you install the dp first so they can spay up to it flush.

I did my 02 and the dp afterwords on the tail gate didn't fit right with the extra thickness of the product. On my 03 I did the dp first and it turned out real nice.

 

[Matt400]

Sorry I thought the question and title of the thread was Line-X or not to Line-X.

True... and that being said is there a reason one wouldn't do it?

 

[DFriedson]

Hey folks, I'm new to the forum. I can answer your questions regarding bedliners.



LINE-X and Rhino differ quite a bit. The biggest difference is that LINE-X contains polyurea and Rhino does not. Polyurea enhances the bedliner’s properties: 1. LINE-X's temperature tolerance is 250 degrees and Rhino's is 175. As the temperature of the bed approaches the temp tolerance, it loses its strength. 2. Polyurea keeps moisture out of the solution thus making a more dense and solid liner. Less moisture also means better adhesion. 3. Polyurea also makes for a harder liner. The tear strength of LINE-X is 304 pounds per linear inch (pli). Rhino is 145 pli. 4. Polyurea sets up very fast, that's one reason why LINE-X goes on with heat and high pressure. LINE-X dries in about 4 seconds, so you get an even application throughout the bed. Rhino takes a minute or so to even gel, an hour or so to dry. Before it gels, gravity can pull the liner from the top ridges in to the low valleys. Rhino’s Tuff Stuff goes on cold/low pressure and thus has that “cottage cheese” or “rain on the windshield” look. LINE-X’s high heat/high pressure system gives it a very nice finished and more consistently applied texture, it’s sort of like an orange peel. The dealer can vary the texture from smooth to very rough. 5. Polyurea makes the liner more chemical resistant, especially to organic oils and solvents.



LINE-X is the only brand with a NATIONWIDE lifetime warranty. Rhino's warrranty is only with the dealer that sprayed it.



LINE-X can be sprayed in any color. The dealer uses the truck's factory paint code to get a color match. If you get a color, be sure the dealer uses Dupont Nason paint. Nason paint is automotive paint and will not fade. A color match will cost an additional $150 to $200. Most other brands just use pigment in the liner to get to the color. A liner with just pigment will fade, no matter the brand.



LINE-X is not that slippery when wet.



LINE-X is supposed to be sprayed up to 1/4" on the bed and up to 1/8" on the sides.



LINE-X has the current contract to spray inside US military submarines. LINE-X has a product called Paxcon (www.paxcon.com) that is similiar to the bedliner product in that it is also a polyurethane/polyurea mix. Paxcon has been sprayed inside the Pentagon as well as several buildings in New York.



Any questions?

 

[Jeremiah]

Whew! Mr. Friedson, you sure you didn't invent Line-X? I ain't never seen that much information! For a newbie you sure gave them folks a lot to chew on. Hey, welcome to the board. I'm lookin' forward to Message 2, etc.

 

[LesStallings]

Me thinks Mr. Friedson may have some interest in Line-X...



Regardless, my $350 Xtreme over the rail spray-in liner performed flawlessly during the last three weeks of hell moving my parents out of their home of 30 years. This was a SIGNIFICANT test as every imaginable slide, scrape, push, pull happened.



Oh, did I mention it rained for about half the time... .



Gee, glad that's over!

 

[demodogg]

How much weight does Line-X or any of the others add to the truck?

 

[DFriedson]

LINE-X weighs 1. 4 pounds per square foot at 1/4" thickness.



Xtreme liner is a 100% polyurea liner. While polyurea gives the liner some desirable properties, a 100% polyurea liner is not a good idea. For example, polyurethane has more than twice the abrasion resistance of polyurea. Also, polyurethane has a higher elongation in a lower modulus. Modulus is the force required to to stretch an elastomer to its ultimate elongation.



Hey, no flames, I'm glad your happy with your liner. I'm just telling you the way it is.

 

[Matt400]

LINE-X's temperature tolerance is 250 degrees and Rhino's is 175.

Holly smokes, my first thought was if it gets to 175 outside I don't think my concerns would be for the bed liner. Then I thought well I suppose that is significant if one was steam cleaning the bed.