Load Trail Gooseneck Dump Time.

[NIsaacs]

fuel has to be labeled if contains ethanol. Dealer probably wanting to sell his canned mix. Premium here has No ethanol.

The pumps here say 10% Ethanol but they don't say if that is for all 4 grades. My brother used to be a Stihl dealer and he says premium don't have it (Montana). I try to use premium in all my small engine equipment but sometimes when I run out I just go to the country store and they don't carry premium. It is a mile away v/s town is 8 miles.

I don't like to carry gas in the car so sometimes I get caught short. I also don't like to store very much, it worries me with it in my hot shop in the summer. If I leave the lids tight the jugs swell like crazy and if I leave them loose the shop smells like gas. Anyone have advise on how to store gas?

 

[jhenderson]

The best way to store gas is Short Term. Especially pre mix. 2 nd best is use fuel stabilizer. I like StaBil Marine. 3rd, keep it in the shade. This helps avoid wide temp swings that causes condensation.
For occasional users I sugjest not mixing anymore than you’ll use in a month. The alcohol comes out of suspension and doesn’t remix with the oil very well. Even syn 2 stroke mix will separate after a while. I generally mix 5 gals at a time but that’s less than a weeks worth. For a lot of folks the 1 gal size premix from Stihl or Husky works well. This is what works for me.

 

[NIsaacs]

Good info jh, thanks. I only mix 2 gallons at a time, I am a "want to be" logger

 

[NIsaacs]

The pumps here say 10% Ethanol but they don't say if that is for all 4 grades. My brother used to be a Stihl dealer and he says premium don't have it (Montana).

I found this from Bell performance:

There is a difference between states on whether premium gas specifically has ethanol in it or not. Or, more correctly, whether it's required to have it in it. Two states in the Union, Missouri and Montana, have specific exemption to allow ethanol-free premium gasoline. So if you live in one of those two states, you can be thankful.

 

[JR]

Ohio is not required to post ethanol % at the pump. For diesel if it's B5 or less they are not required.

I do know some refineries use ethanol to raise the octane level in gas. Seems counterintuitive, as ethanol has a lower btu than pure gasoline.

 

[TFucili]

Knock resistance, or octane, has nothing to do with BTU content, from what I have read.

 

[JR]

I understand about the increased resistance to detonation but I always thought the higher octanes had more BTU, or at the very least the same?

 

[TFucili]

AFAIK, gasoline BTU content is the same across the board. Octane level is boosted to accommodate compression/tuning.

 

[JR]

Which makes it seem odd they use ethanol to boost octane.

This is because they have to use the ethanol to raise the octane level of their gasoline blend in order to satisfy the higher octane requirements of premium. This is one reason why you don't get better gas mileage with premium gas, because an essential part of that blend is a component that has less energy and forces the gas mileage down simply by nature.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bellperformance.com/blog/bid/110140/does-premium-gas-have-ethanol-in-it?hs_amp=true


Going by memory, E10 (10% ethanol) mixed with 85 octane gives you an 87 octane rating. 15% to obtain 89, and on and on. Stihl says no more than 10% so unless you can find a place that sells pure gas it seems like 87 is the ticket.

 

[jhenderson]

The higher the octane, the slower the burn. Alcohol may very well slow the the burn. It’s also a pretty poor fuel. Ask any racer. It allows for monster compression but requires much larger jets or injectors to supply enough fuel to prevent a lean condition. Gas engines run at 14-15 to one parts air to fuel. Alcohol is about 8-9 air to fuel ratio.

 

[NIsaacs]

Had the firewood assembly line running today. We needed one more bucket (1/8th cord) to finish up a two cord load. I pre-measure now and dump in a stock pile in 1 or 2 cord piles. That saves us handling the wood, one time. We don't stack in the trailer, just dump it in and dump it out. It will hold two cords that way. I load the floor with the end gate then I can dump over the side after that. I don't like dropping the wood that high on a bare floor.

 

[AH64ID]

Almost that time of year to break out the saws.

I picked up a barely used (built in 2010 and maybe burned 1 tank, maybe) MS362 last year. It’s has a 25” bar that I thought might be too big, but it just rips thru pine and fir!

It is a little picky to start than dad’s MS361, especially when hot.

I’ve also got a MS260 with a 16” bar for camping and small jobs. Bought it new in ‘04 and it’s been a fantastic saw.

We finally have a couple stations in town that sell ethanol free, both 87 and 91. It’s worth the added price, just in reduced carb maintenance.

 

[NIsaacs]

Not many of these around anymore...

 

[JR]

If they interest you Nick check this out

https://visitashtabulacounty.com/explore-play/covered-bridges

We have 19 in our county alone including the longest and the shortest in the nation .

Smolen Gulf Bridge, 600 ft long almost 100 ft above the Ashtabula River. When it was built I was still hanging iron. Our crew set the main beams for the floor.

They have a really neat Covered Bridge festival every year. Events at each bridge the entire weekend. People come from all over.

 

[NIsaacs]

Thanks for the link JR. I looked to see if the bridge in the Movie, The Bridges of Madison County was there but it is in Iowa, Roseman Bridge. I didn't like the movie much

 

[NIsaacs]

Loaded my log truck today The picture of the trailer tires sunk in the mud is as good as it got, it went downhill from there, I moved forward about 3" and down 6" I was surprised, the little mini X pushed me out.

 

[NIsaacs]

Hauled two loads yesterday, second location was dry. The dump trailers are kind of pain to load logs in but they sure do unload nice & quick, about 5 cords total.

 

[NIsaacs]

Bought a new light materials bucket today, Kabota 1 yd. My old one is a GP 5/8 yd. Bobcat, just too small for all the light weight material I load.

 

[JR]

What I wanna do when I grow up.

 

[TFucili]

LM bucket can be a real time/fuel saver.