Michelin Failures???

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Our new 2001 2500 4 x 4 SB came with 10 ply Michelins.

Last night, I had a catastrophic failure of the left rear, unloaded. The tire suddenly lost air pressure and then proceeded to really come undone. The tread did not separate from the carcass, but the OWL sidewall failed
completely, with total separation from the rest of the tire.

Have any of the rest of you had this problem? This was the worst single incident of tire failure I have ever had.

Thanks for your help.

Harry



[This message has been edited by WileyCoyote (edited 09-28-2000). ]

 

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After some listening-in, it is apparent to me that the Michilins that come from the factory are NOT of the same quality we buy from a tire dealer! Not sure how or why, but I have read threads about guys only getting 10k miles or less out of thier OE tires... the Michilins I bought from a local discount store looked like new after 45k miles when I sold the truck. Something is rotten in Denmark.

 

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Very scary! The only Michelin failure I've had was from runing over cactus while going around a bad section in the trail off road in Baja. The tire was a XOne (street tire) and very slowly lost air due to many (at least 10) tiny puncture holes from the cactus spines. The dealier did replace the tire (pro rated) though. Glad your OK... I also had one of those cactus spines go through the sole of my thongs and into my foot 1/2" #ad
after stopping to check our progress running along a bluff in Baja trying to find a route to the beach.

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2001 HO 6 speed Regular Cab SLT 4x4 3. 54 anti spin 2500. Used for the daily grind and sneaking away to some secret Baja beaches toting a cabover

 

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Sorry to hear that - My OEM "M's" have over 18,000 miles and I expect between 35-45 at this going rate.

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4-sale or Trade
'99, 3/4, QC, SLT, 4x4, ISB, 5sp, 3. 5xlsd, tow pac, HD tcase, tow mirrors, camper pac, White over driftwood, Mist gray interior. With less than 19,000 miles.

 

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Bought my first Dodge Diesel in 89. Came with Michelins. Got 70,000 miles out of them. Replaced them with same tire and drove from Jacksonville, Fl to Huston, Tx. Came back to the campground one night after closing time and gate was locked. I saw that the out gate was open. Backed up enought to get around gate house and went in through the out gate. Guess what? They had a set of spikes gaurding the out gate. I didn't back up for enough to see the warning sign. Three out of four got spiked. Next morning took them off and had them patched from inside. The folloeing year whent to Alaska with same tires. Still running when traided for 97. Just replaced the Goodyear with Michelin. Goodyear tires had about 55,000 miles on them

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97, Lamanie SLT, clubcab, driftwood, 3. 5 spicer 70 rear axle
96 Coachmen Royal 285rk 5th wheel, 11,000 #

 

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My OEM's are pushing 18K, even flat wear just nicley. However the rears show signs of burning. Me bad.

Will need new skins only becuase I've been smoking them. Would like to go to a 8" wide wheel. Like the wheels on the 00 and 01's.

Found a set in the classifieds, but too far away.

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99' Qcab, 4x4, auto, chrome nerf bars, VA, Boost elbow, DiProcal Pillar mount gauges,

 

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I'm not to far away am i?

 

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I've got 57k on mine. They'll need to be replaced before the winter.
I expected to get more miles than this out of michelins.

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98 Quad cab 4X4 2500 12 valve,5 speed,3. 54 rears, 8' bed. Boost and egt gauges but basicly stock except for a "properly adjusted" AFC. Uniden HR 2510, Texas Star 1200 amp. 55,000 Mi as of 8/21/00.
NRA life member. High power/IDPA.

 

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Just put a set of TA ko's on today. my OEM "M"'s only have 10k miles on them.



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2K, 2500,Laramie,Quad,4x4,3:54LSD"slushbox 250 RPM drop WOT shifts", , reese 15k 5th slider, LAVERNGE BULL BAR,WESTIN NERFS, TA's, DD1's, VA, boost & elbow onboard, 4" & 9000's in transit w/more to come
pullee #1 26' Arctic Fox 5th
#2 22' car hauler w/ 76 Pinto 392cid or 68 Cyclone GT Cobra Jet FB
NRA,VFW,SASS

 

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Hay wiley coyote I wonder if you lost your valvestem. I had the valve stem fail with 16000 miles on the truck. I was very lucky that I had just returned to camp and parked in front of my fifth wheel when it let go. I had noticed before that the valve seemed to move around more than it should. Checked the other stems and one other seemed too flexible I had that changedthe tire shop felt it was not seated properly. You might want to check the stems on your other tires.

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Darrel A
1999 24v,Qcab,Sbed,2wh drive,Auto,BD Brake,Auto lock,EGT Boost Trans Temp Gauges

 

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The original tires on any new vehicle outside of true performance vehicles, are not the best that manufacturer makes. I am surprised at the catastrophic failure that Willeycoyote had, though. I knew someone who had a big bad tire failure on his Buick. They ended up getting a copy of the invoice which Buick recieved from the tire manufacturer, as part of the settlement. This was in the two ply days, long ago, so put this into context. The invoice for the original tires was for $11. 00 each tire! My SWAG ( scientific wild ass guess) is that today's Michelins, and other OE tires, cost about $40. 00 apiece. Any body got any facts concerning this interesting subject?
Ron

 

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Now that you mention valve stems... Changed a flat on my 99 last weekend at 11k on the original tires. Valve stem just decided to up an fail! Glad it chose to do it at home.


-Vic
99 QC SB 6spd 2WD

 

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I am convinced that the OEM tires on any vehicle are of not the same quallity as after market. My wifes mercedes got 31K on the original set of michelins the second set now has about 42K and still going strong. The michelins that came on my 92 cummings got about 27K before I changed them. theUnroyals I replaced them with got 40K. I can go way back to new vehicles in the 60s same thing

 

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Well try this one on. My wife's 87 Subaru had Bridgestone's, and we got 75,000 out of them. I put the same tire back one, and sold it with 124,000. The tires still had more than half of the tread.
My OE "M"'s have 18,000 on and off road miles, and they look barely worn. And this is in the HOT dry desert of Arizona.
If I want to run over cactus all day, though, I leave that to my Boggers on my Samurai. They are indestructable. I believe certain brands and models have tires just for OE use.
Remember the BFGoodrich TrailMaker. These were OE on Chevy's for a long time.
My wife's current vehicle, a 96 Windstar has Michelins, and 45,000 miles. They still have a lot of tread, too.

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CSCPusher
'00 QC,SB,4x4,Auto,3. 54 w/LSD,Trailer Package, Tow Package, SLT Laramie, 265's

 

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Patriot - if you expected to get more than 57,000 miles out of a set of tires on a truck as heavy as any of ours you are asking for A LOT!! I figure 40,000 miles out of a truck tire and they don't owe me anything.

-Steve

 

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I have 38,000 miles on my OEM Michelins and honestly they look next to new. I do check the pressure regularly and rotate them about every 7,500 miles. When I first got the truck I called Michelin and went over the pressure that I should be running. My truck weighs 4,500 lbs on the front axle and 2,500 on the rear. The tech and I came up with a chart to use at various weights but empty he told me to run 55 psi in the front and 42 psi in the rear. That is what I have been running when empty since new. These pressures seem to give excellent wear.

Dave

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99 QC SB 4x4 Auto
Factory Ordered
Most Options

 

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The origional michelons on my truck were shot after 10,000 miles. Fortunately I have
a great dealership in my town. They replaced them for free with the tire of my choice #ad
#ad

Maybe I'm just lucky!!

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99 3500 BLACK LOADED
Banks Stinger Plus
CR 500-KX 500
NEVER UNDERPOWERED

 

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Wileycoyote; Darrel has a point about the valve stem. Do you have the steel chrome whls?
I had one leaking down. Turned out that the valve stem had a little cut in it. My local tire dealer said he sees this quite often on these factory steel whls. I beleive he said that since the edge of the valve stem hole is so sharp that they can cause a cut to be inflicted into the stem.
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I had steel valve stems installed w/the new tires, then put extensions on the duals, makes the duallys a lot easier to check and air up. Should cure any v/s problems also.
Larry.

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Y2K 3500 QC,SLT,4X2,White, 6spd,3. 54 lsd,Banks Stinger +,Pacbrake,Pilar mt. EGT & Boost,Amsoil air filter,all amsoil lube w/BMK-15 filter system,MagTec rear cover,putco boss rbs. w/ rear ext. &flaps,20K reese,100 gal. aux. fuel,fold up T cover,5K airlift bags w/comp. ,ranger 2950 cb pushing palomar 225 amp,phantom radar det.

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The last time I had tires replaced, the dealer said that any thing that had 45lbs or more had to have steel valve stem installed. I'm not sure if this was a state law or code for Mn. It does make sense, a couple of bucks for a lot of safety.