Competition Motor Pic's

[zstroken]

Here is the plagueing question, and maybe you already answered it. Don't feel you have to, but you mentioned you had plans to build it bigger and badder, what happened to change your mind?

 

[DRadzierez]

Here is the plagueing question, and maybe you already answered it. Don't feel you have to, but you mentioned you had plans to build it bigger and badder, what happened to change your mind?

I dont think you seen the last of bbd.

 

[zstroken]

I dont think you seen the last of bbd.

BBD or scott behind the wheel of a pulling truck??

 

[Digger]

MTomac, I re-read this thread up until your post--not 1 neg. comment about the d max, and just like the BBD and his break down, you too will break down.



If you look at the join dates, BBD has been around here since 2000. You show up on the boards in 2006. BBD had more than likely 4 times the the competition hrs on his Dodge CTD than you have on your d max. Let's see where you are at in 4 years.



I am not bad-mouthing your D max. You have an obvious bone to pick with the Cummins people. Also, you have done a great deal of research and have taken the D max to places it was not meant to go. Your formula for high hp and torque works, and good for you. BBD was and is an Icon here and admired on tdr, and I am sure that when your D max finally throws the rod or melts down, BBD will have more class than to post one-line negative comments about your d max. My apologies in advance for offending you.



Chris

Not to defend Tomac, but his comment was probaly more towards the cummins in general not BBD. He has taken his share from the cummins diehards on the diesel place so he has a right to return the favor here. Besides it's the off season what else is there to do besides some brand wars.



I highly doubt that BBD has 4 times the competition hours than Mikes dmax. And BBD certainly didn't spend his time at the top of his class like Mike has.

 

[jwilliams3]

I think Tomac has something like 150+ pulls on his truck. Heck I only have like 30+ in 3 seasons of pulling.

 

[MTomac]

MTomac, I re-read this thread up until your post--not 1 neg. comment about the d max, and just like the BBD and his break down, you too will break down.



If you look at the join dates, BBD has been around here since 2000. You show up on the boards in 2006. BBD had more than likely 4 times the the competition hrs on his Dodge CTD than you have on your d max. Let's see where you are at in 4 years.



I am not bad-mouthing your D max. You have an obvious bone to pick with the Cummins people. Also, you have done a great deal of research and have taken the D max to places it was not meant to go. Your formula for high hp and torque works, and good for you. BBD was and is an Icon here and admired on tdr, and I am sure that when your D max finally throws the rod or melts down, BBD will have more class than to post one-line negative comments about your d max. My apologies in advance for offending you.



Chris

My comments were not at all directed at BBD just the Cummins diehards that think the Cummins is indestructable and that think that mod pulling trucks have stock internals. My comments were all in fun, just some off season bench racing.



Also, nothing against BBD but we have a ton more hooks in the midwest than he has out in CA. I have well over 150 hooks (100 in the last two seasons) and over 200 1/4 mile passes on my truck/engine which also has 113k miles on it.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Scott just did what I did 2 years ago with my old motor, I knew it wasn't perfect but didn't have the time or money for a new one so I kept running it. With all that I know now and the resources available I would have just rebuilt it.



If anyone thinks it's not expensive to build and run one of these, there wrong. Like Scott there is a reason I don't have a true Drag Truck with my motor and transmission in it, it's simple! I figure it would take buying a regular cab truck and 20-25K to build it then swap everything over... ... ok that's no so bad right. Now put that into a 50K a year income and no way to write off anything, add in the fact that I always have to be doing or studying something for advancement, community service, deployed, schooling ect and lets not forget Women... ... . life is not all about trucks.



Jim

 

[WUnderwood]

Also, nothing against BBD but we have a ton more hooks in the midwest than he has out in CA. I have well over 150 hooks (100 in the last two seasons) and over 200 1/4 mile passes on my truck/engine which also has 113k miles on it.

want a cookie?



Are you going to have to buy a new helmet because you won the 'East Coast Diesel Power Challenge'?. That competition was a complete joke. You know well enough that there are some SERIOUS Powerstroke AND Cummins trucks out there.

 

[Forrest Nearing]

Scott just did what I did 2 years ago with my old motor, I knew it wasn't perfect but didn't have the time or money for a new one so I kept running it. With all that I know now and the resources available I would have just rebuilt it.

I certainly understand that, but I was under the impression that the engine you replaced was a well worn stocker... whereas his was a high dollar "built" engine...

 

[DRadzierez]

BBD or scott behind the wheel of a pulling truck??

A guy like scott doesnt go cold turkey. Watch out left coast.

 

[DRadzierez]

I think Tomac has something like 150+ pulls on his truck. Heck I only have like 30+ in 3 seasons of pulling.

I have done 88 hooks in one year on my truck while Michelle and myself have made 102 on her tuck the same year.

 

[mrsmith]

I think Tomac has something like 150+ pulls on his truck. Heck I only have like 30+ in 3 seasons of pulling.

jwilliams3, you and tomac ever pulled against each other ? just curious what the outcome was, in diesel power it showed tomac at 600hp/1000tq level, I remember reading your truck is in that same power area ?

 

[jwilliams3]

Actually I think at Indy in 05 I got like 49th place Tomac was like 3rd! :-laf (my truck has changed alot since then) At another pull in 05 I ended up like 3' behind him...



I havent actually got to run against him this year so I can't say exactly where we'd end up. I would say on average he would probably have me by about 5' at any given pull. Since pulling is not an exact science there would be times I would get by him too.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

I certainly understand that, but I was under the impression that the engine you replaced was a well worn stocker... whereas his was a high dollar "built" engine...

I thought it was worn worse than it actually was. There was a good bit of piston shrinkage and normal scuffs on the cylinder walls but the bearings were fine. In the current configuration it would cost over 10K to replace it, long block, pump, turbo ect. It is bored, balanced, girdle, 14mm studs top and bottom, cam, allot of head work, turbo ect... ... . not cheap, and that is free labor from me to do everything except the short block.



Jim

 

[BigBadDodge]

We would be lucky to get a dozen pulls a year out this way, and BBD was at the top of its class out here untill the motor got hurt.



BBD

 

[9 Lives]

Man down.....



I hate hearing about that BBD . Are you taking a while off to get back into it or is it time to move on? I know what its like to make a serious hobby change. I raced motocross for 7 years. Last year my body told me to stop and to move on :{



so now im into diesels... . even MORE expensive hobby Oo.

 

[Hammer]

We would be lucky to get a dozen pulls a year out this way, and BBD was at the top of its class out here untill the motor got hurt.

Funny. .

I thought I remember earlier this year that Colesanti was the guy to beat in Cali,was I reading incorrectly???.



Tomacs win in the DP Challenge was not as impressive as it would have seemed. There were alot of high powered Cummins guns left out and not one strong running Ford from out here. It kinda reminded me of a bar room bully beating up on the smallest guy in the bar,then going home to his own turf. Not to mention the photos from the pulling track looked like a track from California with the dust a flying,not a typical midwest track. He says bench racing made him do it,I say he is daring you midwesterners to come and get him,LOL.



BTW. .

Was it just me or did it seem like Diesel Power catered to the Chubbie owners so they could win and allow them to sell more aluminum can motors?.



Sorry to hijack the thread Scott,but,If you got to pull more after doing all that damage then that motor should recieve ironman status and be enshrined somewhere... ... ... . Andy

 

[cahammer]

ya know we can start all sorts of arguments here but I am not a fighter I'm a puller I feel that scott has done more for the western areas as far a sledpulling then anyone else has imo he was and is a big part of why I got in this sport I don't have the big sponsers and money that some of you do I am in the sport for the love of it I just hope that (firesuit is now on) dhra doesn't come around me I just have a thing about rules and being to many of them now its the off season time to do a few mods I hope those new owners build it right and whips all ya'll this next year and maybe they will call it the BIG BAD BOUNCER again

 

[WUnderwood]

BTW. .

Was it just me or did it seem like Diesel Power catered to the Chubbie owners so they could win and allow them to sell more aluminum can motors?.

well, look who has won the last 2 challenges--Duramax's. I heard a rumor that Chevrolet owns Primedia, the company that publishes the Diesel Power magazine, but I dont know if it is true.



Look at the competition in the last challenge, there were 2 Powerstrokes with cough, cough, under 350 HP. There are much bigger dogs out there.

 

[jwilliams3]

Guys dont get carried away here.



The duramax has some big advantages over the Cummins... .



OPEN YOUR EYES!! This is the same attitude that loses competitions of any sort.