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You'd have about just as much luck winning Powerball thinking a rock or stick is going to actuate the valve. For starters... The lever is on the backside of the valve (facing rearwards) you have to push the lever towards the front of the truck then downwards to open it. But then it has a cap with an o-ring on it that you have to remove before it would drain. It's a perfect fix to a wrist dripping with oil OR fishing the drain plug out of the oil bin. It's fairly well protected as it's higher than the front axle.

Here's mine....

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I have to admit, it's been a while since we've had the low hanging oil valve discussion... have one on my 5500, but didn't bother on my wife's truck, since only the dealer changes fluid on her truck. For 20 years, I've never heard of a single instance of anyone hitting one and losing oil. I'm more concerned about the low hanging water in fuel drain valve that's below the shield, been think of trying to raise the whole thang.

Anyhoo, that's my "spin" on the oil drain valve.

Cheers, Ron
 
I have to admit, it's been a while since we've had the low hanging oil valve discussion... have one on my 5500, but didn't bother on my wife's truck, since only the dealer changes fluid on her truck. For 20 years, I've never heard of a single instance of anyone hitting one and losing oil. I'm more concerned about the low hanging water in fuel drain valve that's below the shield, been think of trying to raise the whole thang.

Anyhoo, that's my "spin" on the oil drain valve.

Cheers, Ron

Hmmmmmm. Trying to decide if there's any innuendos in this post.....

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You'd have about just as much luck winning Powerball thinking a rock or stick is going to actuate the valve. For starters... The lever is on the backside of the valve (facing rearwards) you have to push the lever towards the front of the truck then downwards to open it. But then it has a cap with an o-ring on it that you have to remove before it would drain. It's a perfect fix to a wrist dripping with oil OR fishing the drain plug out of the oil bin. It's fairly well protected as it's higher than the front axle.

Here's mine....

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As mentioned earlier actuating the valve isn’t a concern, it’s ripping it off that is a major concern. The oil pan on these trucks is unprotected and exposed enough as it is, I’m not putting something on it that will increase the vulnerability of it. The oil pan itself is barely higher than the axle, so something hanging an inch or so lower is that much more exposed.

My wrist doesn’t get covered in oil, nor do I have to fish the plug out of the pan. o_O

For many people it’s not an issue, but get off the paved road and it’s simply not worth the perceived benefit... even on the road I don’t think it’s worth it as it likely threads in past the threads and allows for even less oil to drain out.
 
As mentioned earlier actuating the valve isn’t a concern, it’s ripping it off that is a major concern. The oil pan on these trucks is unprotected and exposed enough as it is, I’m not putting something on it that will increase the vulnerability of it. The oil pan itself is barely higher than the axle, so something hanging an inch or so lower is that much more exposed.

My wrist doesn’t get covered in oil, nor do I have to fish the plug out of the pan. o_O

For many people it’s not an issue, but get off the paved road and it’s simply not worth the perceived benefit... even on the road I don’t think it’s worth it as it likely threads in past the threads and allows for even less oil to drain out.

Paved road is bad enough alone: alligators (big rig tire caps) are enough to leave skid marks on the skid plates at times. The now dead deer coming out from under the big rig ahead of us, well, that going under the truck broke the DPF sensors (steel pipes) out of our 08 Duramax exhaust. Fixed it after our load was delivered.
 
I wasn’t even thinking about how low the sump of our pans lay and with the drain at the bottom of that. This makes the valve a double negative to me in this application.
Being a fleet mechanic who’s been around very diverse equipment, I’ve actually seen this fumoto type drain used on industrial equipment, so I don’t question its quality, but in my contact with thousands of pieces of equipment, I’ve never seen a crankcase or any other oil compartment “open” to the ground. There’s always been a plug or otherwise, a cap at the end.
 
Obviously some things arent for everyone. Some of you are not using this because your sure your going to win the disaster lotto. Most peoples chance is next to zero but if you feel better then thats all that matters. I'm not trying to force anyone to use it, just shared that I do. 30 years on road/off road/under water no problem. Tomorrow is another day, I will probably win powerball before that particular disaster lotto.
 
Obviously some things arent for everyone. Some of you are not using this because your sure your going to win the disaster lotto. Most peoples chance is next to zero but if you feel better then thats all that matters. I'm not trying to force anyone to use it, just shared that I do. 30 years on road/off road/under water no problem. Tomorrow is another day, I will probably win powerball before that particular disaster lotto.

Me too. Old discussion same results.
 
I get a little dirty diesel engine oil under my finger nails every 6 months, big deal! It is gone by the time the next oil change rolls around! Which is in a couple weeks, have the Fleetguard filter ready, just have to pick up the oil.
 
Returning to my 2019:

We just made a round trip to Durant/Coleman, OK to pick up our toy hauler from some warranty work at the factory. Route was US 60->AZ 74->I 17->I-40->US 287->US 70 with a leg on US 75->OK 48 to and from the plant. Windy most of the trip, mostly cross winds. Empty MPG=16, Mixed 80% Empty/20% Towing/City=14, Towing=9.2, Overall Trip Avg=11.6. The towing leg from Amarillo to Gallup was 8.6. Empty speeds 70-73, Towing mostly 65-67. I did experiment on the last leg with 68, as the extra 100 RPM +/- seemed to help it hold 6th over some grades, and there didn't seem to be much, if any, effect on MPG.

I did top off my DEF once, and the overall average DEF consumption to that point was 716.78 MPG. When pulling I am estimating it is more in the 500 MPG range.

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The pan leaves plenty of old oil in it already. I have heard these valves make it hold more. I have no issue unscrewing a drain plug and re installing it.

I do have the Fumoto on the 350 in my boat. I get more oil out this way than trying to suck it out. Simply slip on the hose and poke it out the stern drain hole into a waiting receptacle.

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