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2004 ctd, 325/600 very low milage.--help!!!

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What have you guys found to work really well? I have the DiPricol fuel gauge with the Isolator and will be using the Geno's billet fuel filter cap as my source. That means I need a 1/8" npt on one end and a 1/4" npt on the other. If I mount it on the firewall I should only need about 16" of hose. I read on the TDR somewhere about using a grease gun hose from NAPA. Also, I saw where some fellas ordered a braided line from Summit. Any other recommendations? I hope to finally get my gauges installed this weekend after getting them for Christmas. Terrible, I know :rolleyes: Thanks!
 
I am very interested in this too. I already have my boost and pyro on the steering column.



A fuel pressure gauge in a SRT-10 pillar mount is next. I think I would like to go off of a threaded banjo on the pump. Can anyone tell me what I need to order besides the Dipricol fuel gauge kit from Genos? Hose, banjo, harmonica, Kazoo? An itemized list would be great. Thanks.
 
You can get a 1/4" NPT to 1/8" NPT adapter and just run an 1/8" hose... . or... .



You can run adapters and run a 1/4" flared brake line instead. They can come from your favorite parts store in 8", 12", and 20" lengths and they'll carry fuel no problem.
 
Hey Tim,

Are you talking about the metal brake lines or the flexible rubber ones? That's an idea I hadn't thought of yet. Thanks.
 
Courtesy of the main man JSteiger who has been a huge help with my fuel pressure gauge install (haven't done it yet).



Here's the major parts list:



*Geno's - tapped banjo bolt and washers - (#BF-KIT-32: comes with 2 tapped bolts, 1 regular bolt, 10 washers, but only used 1 bolt and 2 washers)

*Geno's - Di-pricol gauge w/ isolator, nylon tubing, compression fittings, and 1/4"NPT to 1/8"NPT bushings - (#DI-FPG-30)

*Geno's - steering pod mount - (#GM-DG-1501)

*Summit Racing - Autometer 4' braided 4AN tubing kit - (#ATM-3229: comes with 4AN tubing plus adapters to NPT - in hindsight I should have used 3' kit)

*Summit Racing - Aeroquip 4AN male to 1/8" MPT 45-degree elbow (#AER-FBM2582)

*Carquest - 1/8" MPT to 1/8" compression fittings (2 @ straight for "just-in- case" & 1 @ 90-degrees for hood clearance)

*Carquest - 6' of 3/16" windshield washer tubing

*McMaster - 1/8" needle valve, 1 end female other end male - (#7833K83: you can get brass ones from a well equipped hardware store for about $5, but could not find any locally after searching for a few days so I ordered this $19 steel valve)



At the CP3:



When you undo the bolt that holds the feed to the CP3 down, you will see that the bolt is hollow through its diameter near the head. The fuel line itself will look like a hollow eyebolt without the threads. Between the bolt head and the fuel line is a sealing washer; between the fuel line and the CP3 housing is another sealing washer. Don't reuse these washers; use new ones that come with the banjo bolt kit above.



In the Geno's kit you will a large hex headed banjo bolt. At the top of this head, you will find it tapped for 1/8" NPT.



Take the tapped banjo bolt and with 2 new washers install the fuel line back onto the CP3. DO NOT USE LOTS OF TORQUE AS PER THE KIT INSTRUCTIONS AS THE TAPPING MAKES THE BOLT WEAKER UNDER SHEAR. I just installed it with "palm force" without any body weight behind it. Even less because you can always tighten later if there are leaks.



With sealant on the male needle vale threads attach it to the tapped bolt. I held the banjo bolt with a wrench while tightening the needle valve to prevent inadvertent torquing of the tapped bolt.



Then take the 1/8" male NPT to -4AN adapter, apply sealant to the pipe threads only and install onto the needle valve while holding the needle valve still with a wrench to further prevent inadvertent torquing of the banjo bolt underneath.



AN fittings require no sealant at all and they just have to be snug. With this in mind attach the stainless steel braided hose.



Connection to the isolator (Use sealant on all NPT fittings only):



If you purchased the items that I listed in the parts list you will have more than enough fittings to adapt the -4AN tube to the isolator, especially between the fittings that came with the gauge/isolator and the Autometer tube kit. If I recall, the isolator is 1/4" female NPT so you would need to go 1/4" FPT to 1/8" NPT to -4AN.



Isolator to gauge:



Fill the gauge side of the isolator with antifreeze solution per the instructions. Adapt 1/4" female NPT at isolator, then 1/4" NPT to 1/8" NPT with the reducing bushing from the isolator kit. I then used a 90* 1/8" NPT to 1/8" compression adaptor for hood clearance. If you use a straight adapter the tubing would point straight up then you would have to bend it down to go through the firewall. However, when you close the hood, it will hit the tubing so that's why I used the 90* fitting.



I inserted the 1/8" nylon gauge tubing into 3/16" windshield washer tubing for protection against abrasion and then inserted this through the firewall. Connect the nylon tubing to the compression fitting at the isolator.



For any distance shorter than 6 feet the instructions said you do not need antifreeze solution. Of course I didn't read the instructions and wasted lots of time on trying to fill the tubing with antifreeze. I managed to spill antifreeze everywhere too before I read the instructions. In the end I have half the tubing filled with antifreeze. Connect tubing to the gauge.



The rest is wiring!



If you want I can easily go outside while it is still light out and take pictures. I think I also have a spare tapped banjo bolt as well as the regular banjo bolt kicking around if you want me to take a picture of it to email you.



If you lay everything out on the table first it will be a lot easier to see what I just wrote.



Hope this helps!
 
Lightman is the Bomb!

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for the list. I am going to start collecting the stuff right away. Too bad someone does not sell this as a complete kit but shopping can be fun. I think I possibly saw your pictures under another thread. Great job. In your debt, and owe you a future draft choice. ;)
 
RTillery said:
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for the list. I am going to start collecting the stuff right away. Too bad someone does not sell this as a complete kit but shopping can be fun. I think I possibly saw your pictures under another thread. Great job. In your debt, and owe you a future draft choice. ;)



As I had mentioned - that was a copy/paste from TDR member JSteiger. I'm happy to provide what you needed and glad to help - but he wrote and compiled all of that! I am in the process of collecting all the parts and have everything but the last 90 degree fitting. I was able to order everything online. Be sure when you got to summit racing to order the 3 foot stainless autometer hose KIT not just the hose. I made the mistake of ordering the 3 foot hose without the fittings etc. Getting there, still trying to locate one of those 90 degrees! Good luck with your project!
 
Well, since I am only going from the filter assembly to the firewall I could probably use a 1' braided hose with a 4AN to 1/8" on one end and a 4AN to 1/8" to 1/4" on the other. Hopefully I can find it local. If not I may be going the brake line route this weekend. Thanks guys!
 
I originally bought the geno's billet fuel filter cap until I realized there would be a hose going into it all the time which prevents you from getting a socket on it, as well as the fact it won't be after the fuel filter to measure fuel filter life. . So I'm going to return the billet cap and tap into the cp3 with all of the above parts. . Good luck!
 
OK, now I'm confused. I thought since it was pulling pressure from the center of the housing that it was measuring post-filtered fuel. Maybe my understanding of the filter is off-kilter (dang now I'm a poet).



I wondered about the hose getting in the way when changing the filter, but I guess it will only bug me every 15k. Maybe I can find a swivel adapter that would allow the use of an open end wrench to change filters without pulling the hose off.
 
Sears sells those ratcheting wrenches, that might work. If that were the only issue I'd live with it too because the Geno's cap is one sweet piece. However I wanted to measure post filter. Also why mess with the hose to the filter cap if you can do it right once and be done with it? Just my opinion.
 
Measuring through a hole in the lid would be pre filter. A tapped banjo at the injector pump is post. I used the banjo and a 24" length of braided stainless from a local hose and fitting shop. They could have put any size ends I wanted on it. Cost about $7 IIRC.



-Scott
 
Well, crap. I thought we had this discussion on here before and decided it was post filter. Hmmm, now I need to decide if I want to keep it. It does look sweet, but knowing if the filter was plugged would be a big plus. Course I guess if the pressure kept going up higher than normal you would know it was getting plugged too. Does that make sense?
 
Keep the cap, plug the hole and monitor pressure at the pump. It'll still look cool and you won't have to mess with the line every time you change the filter.



-Scott
 
What... ... . you've never done anything to your truck to make it look better and play no role in function? Granted I don't do many but I've seen some pretty trick engine compartments. Course..... I can't even keep the outside of my truck clean :rolleyes: Besides, it's not like we're talking about clear taillights here :p



-Scott
 
CStansbury said:
Hey Tim,

Are you talking about the metal brake lines or the flexible rubber ones? That's an idea I hadn't thought of yet. Thanks.



Metal brake lines.



Brake hoses aren't rated for fuel.
 
Yep, I would rather spend that $60 on something else for my rig. That'll help pay for my straight pipe after I get my gauges in. I guess I'll be calling Geno's to swap out for a banjo fitting. I'm sure I can spend the difference on something else in the catalogue. I just hate eating the shipping charges.
 
SRadke said:
What... ... . you've never done anything to your truck to make it look better and play no role in function? Granted I don't do many but I've seen some pretty trick engine compartments. Course..... I can't even keep the outside of my truck clean :rolleyes: Besides, it's not like we're talking about clear taillights here :p



-Scott



Nope, I haven't done anything to my truck to make it look better that served no function, aside from the $10 Cummins badge I bought. I see no point in a shiny fuel filter cover that serves no purpose, considering the hood is closed when I drive the truck.
 
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