Ok guys, you 12 valvers talked me into it. I bite the bullet and bought a '97 club cab 5 speed 4X4. It's a 1 owner truck in real good shape. I bought it mainly for the 5 speed, and because it's a little less nice (has fewer "nice-ities") than my 98 24 valve. By the way, I need to sell my 24 valve (see ad in classifieds), so if anyone knows of someone looking for an absolutely mint truck, turn them on to mine, please. Now to start looking at the torque plates...