New 8th Gear transmission in 2021?

[Ozymandias]

Here it is- probably.

https://www.todaystrucking.com/zf-powerline-transmission-coming-to-north-america/

What do you think?

More Info here
https://www.truckinginfo.com/334440/zf-shows-new-8-speed-transmission-adas-steering-tech

According to the specs - will this end the AISIN option?

 

[nukegm]

i sold my 16 2500 6.4 because the auto trans drove me crazy ( i live in the mountains ). from what i hear the newer 8 speed in the newer 2500s with the 6.4 is a total game changer in a positive direction. currently drive a g56 2500. maybe ill get tired of shifting in a couple years? cheers comrade! good info b t w .

 

[dieselshadow]

I say bring it on. I wonder what they’ll do about the torque ratings though. Surely Ram wouldn’t let Ford stay king of the hill in the torque wars?

 

[Conifer]

Says it can handle "up to 1000 lb-ft of torque" so it's likely not going to replace the Aisin.

 

[Ozymandias]

Says it can handle "up to 1000 lb-ft of torque" so it's likely not going to replace the Aisin.

Right now yes - but do we know what ZF does to the transmission for this application?

I think I'd bet that this is the new HD transmission we get next year.

 

[Ozymandias]

They even had a RAM test mule a year ago.
https://www.trucks.com/2018/06/20/zf-8-speed-transmission-commercial-trucks/amp/

The more I dig now the more I find.

 

[Cummins2014]

Right now yes - but do we know what ZF does to the transmission for this application?

I think I'd bet that this is the new HD transmission we get next year.

Are the fords not 10 speeds now ??. Ram is sure lagging if so .

 

[Ozymandias]

Nope, read the links, they claim it is superior over the 9-10 speed the others offer.

Edith says it isn't in this links, found it somewhere...

 

[Conifer]

I'm definitely optimistic, just not getting my hopes up with that torque rating. While my Aisin is great, something that shifted a bit better and quicker would be very welcome.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Guess I am just lucky. I have ZERO issues with my 2015 AISIN.

I am hot convinced more gears will make much difference.

 

[Wayne M.]

I’m real happy with my 8HP in Midnite. They’re even standing up to the abuse of the Hellcat. If I’m understanding this right, this 8AP is basically a beefed up version of the HP.
The only strange thing I see is it looks like both PTO pads are being used already.
Transmissions have come a long way in the last 10- 15 years.

 

[R.Taylor]

I've had ZF marine transmissions in 4 boats..... Never once had an issue of any sorts. I can only imaging they build an equally impressive truck transmission.

 

[NIsaacs]

The only strange thing I see is it looks like both PTO pads are being used already.

I would guess those are mounted pto's. If 6 spd's were a huge improvement over 4 spd's, I would guess 8 spd's is even better.

As far as 1000 lbs torque rating, that might be the "B sample transmission", the "C sample" is next, so maybe 1000+++.

I see the torque converter locks in 1st and is only used for launch and stop. Basically a standard transmission, woo hoo

I would also guess with 8 spd's, it will shift sooner in the rpm band, a good thing.

 

[TFucili]

The only complaints I have generally seen on the forums is the ZF's cost to service. Apparently, the fluid is extracted from unicorns.

 

[mwilson]

The only complaints I have generally seen on the forums is the ZF's cost to service. Apparently, the fluid is extracted from unicorns.

Obviously you've never milked a Unicorn, it's a real ***** working around all of the damn rainbows....

 

[TFucili]

Obviously you've never milked a Unicorn, it's a real ***** working around all of the damn rainbows....

So I have been told

 

[mwilson]

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[mwilson]

Sorry, couldn't resist....

 

[gsbrockman]

I’m real happy with my 8HP in Midnite. They’re even standing up to the abuse of the Hellcat. If I’m understanding this right, this 8AP is basically a beefed up version of the HP.
The only strange thing I see is it looks like both PTO pads are being used already.
Transmissions have come a long way in the last 10- 15 years.

The 8HP in the Challenger T/A is sweeeeeeeeet.....love the paddle shifters and the transmission tuning when in Sport Mode. Of course.....having the Active Exhaust opened up in sport mode really allows the melodic 5.7L to sing sweetly.

 

[JR]

The only complaints I have generally seen on the forums is the ZF's cost to service. Apparently, the fluid is extracted from unicorns.

With a "good for life" oil filter, what could go wrong?