Competition New Carli suspension VS kore suspension

[Hohn]

I am sorry but in my book a "stand up" guy doesn't install someones pruducts while copying them and then releasing something extremly similar for a little less money. A "stand up" guy would respectfully stop installing one's product first, then introduce one's own product after, not while representing someone else's line. Even that is less than cool. I am sorry Carli, But what you did is wrong, Not only fishy but plain stinks! I hope whatever Victor offered you is worth it. Your sole, honor and reputation has been sold and you can't ever buy it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not at any price



DD

My first inclination would be to agree with you. . BUT!



I've never heard Kent or anyone at KORE badmouth Sage! Maybe they want to, but they have refrained.



Kent still recommends going to Sage's shop, as it's the "premier" place to get your KORE installed.



What if this whole KORE vs Carli thing is fictitious? What if there is no bad blood or any kind of animosity? What if it's just a fabrication of the Internet and a couple people jumping to conclusions?



So while part of me wants to agree with you, Diesel Dan, the thought of looking like an idiot because I didn't know what's going on keeps me from rendering judgements other than what I saw from the pics in the other thread.



jmo

 

[PHeadings]

Dsherman, Do you have a speech impairment?

 

[Diesel Dan]

Hohn,

To satisfy my curiosity, I went to Kore's website and Carli is not listed as an installer. Very interesting... ... ... ... .



DD

 

[Lorenz]

I'd like to see how this thread goes...

 

[Diesel Dan]

Hello Bob,

I would love to go to Palmdale, but it is a little too far from my new home just north of Spokane, Wa. I just had to get out of So cal(Orange County) where there is not much difference between parking lots and freeways. :-laf



Thanks for all your help over the years. (even if you can't get a hold of some tools that are on terminal backorder :-laf )



best regards



DD



How about some pics of the new ride in your readers rigs.

 

[Hohn]

Hohn,

To satisfy my curiosity, I went to Kore's website and Carli is not listed as an installer. Very interesting... ... ... ... .



DD

Interesting, for sure.



BTW-- didn't mean to imply that agreeing with you would make me look like an idiot. NO offense meant-- I hope you know what I was poorly saying.



jlh

 

[Diesel Dan]

hohn,

No worries or implications. Just an interesting turn of events.



Best regards



DD

 

[dsherman]

New Carli suspension





Some more good news, The maker and engineer of the T-REX suspension system VICTOR who is behind the Carli suspension Will be coming up with Carli (sage)to the Desert Diesel Roundup and Sled Pull in Sept 24th and 25th. So you can see the quality of the new system for your self and answer all your questions

And I herd that kent and king shocks had a falling out :--)

Carli has a great price on has system give him a call and he uses the best shocks and that would be KING

David

 

[Bob4x4]

Hello Bob,

I would love to go to Palmdale, but it is a little too far from my new home just north of Spokane, Wa. I just had to get out of So cal(Orange County) where there is not much difference between parking lots and freeways. :-laf



Thanks for all your help over the years. (even if you can't get a hold of some tools that are on terminal backorder :-laf )



best regards



DD



How about some pics of the new ride in your readers rigs.

I guess that would explain why we haven't seen you in a while. I haven't taken any pics of the new truck yet... . too busy getting it set up. The new one has to be nicer than the old trophy winner right



Bob

 

[Diesel Dan]

bob,

Anything has got to be nicer than that old clunker :-laf



DD

 

[Bob4x4]

Yea I think that old 94 needs a carb o'haul or something she smokes like a train



Bob

 

[dsherman]

Kore Paly Fear

Whats up with this

I now know that KORE team is wearied about carle

KORE PLAY FEAR



READ THIS :-laf :-laf

Sunday 9/18

10:52AM





Sage:



Looks like KORE has registered your name on the 13th of September (see info below). I also ran "carlioffroad.com" and KORE has that name registered too. If you ran a dba in Orange County as "Carli Suspension", then you probably have a legal standing to get the name back; however, accomplishing that will take both legal help and time.



Then I tried three more generic names--"engineeredsuspension" and "suspensionengineering" and "carlisuspensionengineering"--all of these are available. Personally, I like suspensionengineering both as a web name and possibly a company name. In either event, you can start with something generic while you fight KORE for your own name. You might want to send me a list of other alternates that I can check.



I looked into web hosting as well. I like Network Solutions. They offer everything you could possibly need for $120 annually--including free name registration and 25 e-mail boxes. Moreover, when you're ready to start an e-commerce division (selling directly over the web) they can make that happen with very little effort on our part.



Obviously, we can't upload pages until we have a name so selecting a host now is a mute point. That said, we can still work on the sight development--photos, copy, etc. . so we can hit the ground running once these issues are resolved.



















search: carlisuspension.com, carlioffroad.com















Registrant:

KORE

P. O. Box 2628

Valley Center, California 92082

United States



Registered through: Cheap-DomainNames.com

Domain Name: CARLISUSPENSION. COM

Created on: 13-Sep-05

Expires on: 13-Sep-06

Last Updated on: 13-Sep-05



Administrative Contact:

Kroeker, Kent -- email address removed --

KORE

P. O. Box 2628

Valley Center, California 92082

United States

(760) 749-8687 Fax -- (760) 749-0842

Technical Contact:

Kroeker, Kent -- email address removed --

KORE

P. O. Box 2628

Valley Center, California 92082

United States

(760) 749-8687 Fax -- (760) 749-0842



Domain servers in listed order:

NS1. PARKEDNAMESERVER. COM

NS2. PARKEDNAMESERVER. COM



The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness.

 

[Cooker]

Why all the bad press for KORE? Do you have some a vested interest in Carli? If the message you posted was composed by yourself I would say yes. The email refers to "we" a couple of times.



Trying to make yourself look better by talking down about others is poor way to build a positve reputation.



JMHO

 

[dsherman]

Why all the bad press for KORE? Do you have some a vested interest in Carli? If the message you posted was composed by yourself I would say yes. The email refers to "we" a couple of times.



Trying to make yourself look better by talking down about others is poor way to build a positve reputation.



JMHO

I got the e-mail from somebody else. No names . Its just interesting reading what KORE is doing to make it hard on Carli. ITS JUST BAD BUSINESS

I have no VESTED INTEREST IN CARLI ONLY THAT HE IS RUNNING HIS BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY

He has no bad things to say about the KORE system and he will still sale it and do the installs for KORE if they would let him. Now you have a choice what system to buy Oo.



Just for your info I have the T-REX system and like it, And I promote the T-REX and the KORE systems all the time. I will never say anything bad about there system . I don't like how KORE is doing business. Its not right.

Don't get me wrong, I like kent and KORE but I think KORE is unfear and bad business to put down, And make it hard for someone else to do business.

Just wont to let people know whats happening

A little competition is always good and keeps prices down and now you have a choice in systems

KOREs reputation is fading :--)

David

 

[Cooker]

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Bob4x4]

This Sunday come out to LACR and see both systems!Talk to reps from both companies. Talk to the designer of both systems(one and the same person). And while you all are doing that I will be making a few shakedown 1/4 mile passes on the new truck,with a system you will have to see for your self. Enjoy life and get a chance to flog your truck. I will be. Oo.



See ya all there

Bob

 

[joaker]

So what would be the best way for a potential customer to find out more information about the Carli Suspension, prices/specs and such, and the availability for my specific truck? I was interested in the Kore setup until it went up in price to that "unreasonable" level... ... ... . this setup sounds to be as good as the Kore, just need some hard numbers in my head to make the call... . thanks.

 

[Bob4x4]

Carli suspension714-273-6278,Say hi to Sage for me.



Bob

 

[dsherman]

Carli suspension714-273-6278,Say hi to Sage for me.



Bob

Hay Bob I will

David

 

[Amish Elegance]

search: carlisuspension.com, carlioffroad.com

Registrant:

KORE

P. O. Box 2628

Valley Center, California 92082

United States



Registered through: Cheap-DomainNames.com

Domain Name: CARLISUSPENSION. COM

Created on: 13-Sep-05

Expires on: 13-Sep-06

Last Updated on: 13-Sep-05



Administrative Contact:

Kroeker, Kent -- email address removed --

KORE

P. O. Box 2628

Valley Center, California 92082

United States

(760) 749-8687 Fax -- (760) 749-0842

Technical Contact:

Kroeker, Kent -- email address removed --

KORE

P. O. Box 2628

Valley Center, California 92082

United States

(760) 749-8687 Fax -- (760) 749-0842



Domain servers in listed order:

NS1. PARKEDNAMESERVER. COM

NS2. PARKEDNAMESERVER. COM



The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness.

Ok, forgive me, I dont speak geek. What this implys is... Kroeker bought the url of CARLISUSPENSION. COM on the 13th of this month? Is that right? What use would he have for that?



If so, me thinks the pinnacle of ethics KORE markets upon, and proclaims to follow (and from my experience does business by) may have just toppled. I'll wait for a response from the other camp on this one. Say it aint so?