New Mopar Heavy Duty Filtration Kits Available

[sag2]

They have been talking about it for a long time and the TSB is finally out. TSB 14-003-09 gives all the details. Fits all 2004-2009 trucks and Chassis Cab. Includes lift pump and remote mounted filter. Have not seen it yet but is should be a well engineered set up. They all retail for $750.



Qty. Part No. Description

1

(AR)

68046192AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DC 143. 5 & 167. 5 WB 52 Gal

Fuel Tank - 6. 7L

1

(AR)

68046193AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DC 143. 5 & 167. 5 WB 22 Gal

Fuel Tank - 6. 7L

1

(AR)

68045251AB Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DH/D1 140. 5 & 160. 5 WB 34

Gal Fuel Tank - 6. 7L

1

(AR)

68045252AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DH/D1 140. 5 & 160. 5 WB 35

Gal Fuel Tank - 6. 7L

1

(AR)

68046206AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DC 163. 5 WB 52 Gal Fuel

Tank - 6. 7L

1

(AR)

68046207AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DC 163. 5 WB 22 Gal Fuel

Tank - 6. 7L

1

(AR)

68045253AB Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DH/D1 140. 5 & 160. 5 WB 34

Gal Fuel Tank - 5. 9L

1

(AR)

68045254AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Filtration - DH/D1 140. 5 & 160. 5 WB 35

Gal Fuel Tank - 5. 9L

1

(AR)

68051906AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Tank Ventilation - DC 52 Gallon Tank

1

(AR)

68061341AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Tank Ventilation - D1/DH 35 Gallon Tank

1

(AR)

68061342AA Kit, Severe Duty Fuel Tank Ventilation - D1/DH 34 Gallon Tank

1

(AR)

68061633AA Element, Fuel Filter - Shell and Filter (5 Micron)

1

(AR)

68061634AA Element, Fuel Filter - This filter to supersede the original

5183410AA filter when supplies are exhausted.

POLICY:

Information Only

 

[Motorhead]

I added a Glacier Diesel 2 micron kit and it wasn't no $750. 00!!! Mopar only shows a 5 mic filter. I think I did the whole thing for under $100. 00

 

[HBarlow]

sag2,

Would you publish the TSB for us please so we can read the benefits and decide if we want to install it?

 

[brods]

Great. Can't wait to see the details, such as heater, separate water separator, etc. It is a little disappointing to see a 5 mic element, but I suspect if these become popular the aftermarket will step up and offer finer filtration. Any more details sag2?

 

[Regcabguy]

I added a Glacier Diesel 2 micron kit and it wasn't no $750. 00!!! Mopar only shows a 5 mic filter. I think I did the whole thing for under $100. 00

Is your stock intank pump able to push fuel effectively through a 2 micron filter? Are you using a fuel pressure gauge to check?

 

[rbattelle]

Fascinating. Too bad it took them 6 years to recognize the problem and do something about it.

Ryan

 

[HBarlow]

I sent an e-mail early this morning before I left home including the part number and description to MOPAR4LESS to the woman who has been my favorite Dodge parts person for several years and who has always treated me right. She sent me back a reply later today indicating a price of around $52.

I'm confused. Sag2's post indicates the kit includes a fuel transfer pump and all kits for the various models are priced at $750 retail. Why would I need a fuel transfer pump? All the trucks since about 2005 have had the transfer pump in the fuel tank. Was there an error in the part number or did my parts person make a mistake? Is there something I'm missing here? Is a replacement pump required to push the fuel through a tighter restriction in the new filter?

 

[Matt400]

Fascinating. Too bad it took them 6 years to recognize the problem and do something about it.



Ryan

:-laf:-laf we don't want to rush into anything, besides were are making good money on replacement parts Its like the rollover valve issue, no biggie that contamination has an entry point.

 

[sag2]

Here is the rest of the TSB. I'm assuming the revised lift pump is to maintain adequate fuel flow through the dual stage filter.



SUBJECT:

Heavy Duty Filtration - MOPAR Retrofit or Add On Parts Available

MODELS:

2004 - 2009 (D1/DH) Ram Truck (2500/3500 Pick Up)

2007 - 2009 (DC) Ram Truck (3500 Cab Chassis)

NOTE: This bulletin applies to D1/DH vehicles equipped with a 5. 9L Cummins engine

built after January 1, 2005 and D1/DH/DC vehicles equipped with a 6. 7L

Cummins engine built from 2007 model year (sales codes ETH, ETJ).

DISCUSSION:

Several fuel system add-on or retrofit parts are available to enhance the filtering capability

for customers exposing their vehicles to extremely dirty conditions.

Description of parts available for Cummins diesel equipped vehicles are listed below:

· 5. 9L & 6. 7L Water stripping, frame mounted filter kit. This kit includes the following:

revised lift pump, lines, heater, water in fuel (WIF) sensor, and instructions.

· 6. 7L up-graded (5 micron) fuel filter to retrofit earlier models (shell and element).

· 6. 7L Element only, fuel filter.

· 5. 9L & 6. 7L Add-on or up-graded fuel tank vent hose kit with vent cap.

NOTE: Several parts will be added to this bulletin when they are available. The

bulletin will be revised when they become available. These parts include a

Filter with Bracket assembly which will replace the cap on the fuel tank vents

for all the above vehicles, a 5 micron fuel filter for 5. 9 engines and an

improved air filter for 5. 9 engines.

NOTE: The maintenance intervals for the fuel filters (engine mounted filter and

chassis mounted severe duty fuel filtration kit filter) maintain a 15,000 mile

service requirement for both.

 

[Motorhead]

Is your stock intank pump able to push fuel effectively through a 2 micron filter? Are you using a fuel pressure gauge to check?

No, I do not have a gauge for fuel pressure. I queried the boards before I bought and installed the unit and no one seemed to have any issues with the 2 mic filter and inadequite fuel pressure. I figured on changing the secondary 2 mic filter every 30,000mi. I run the fleetguard 7 mic filter in the stock, primary location.
What is GOOD, normal fuel pressure to the cp3?
I have run my Smartyjr under load at the 100hp setting and never felt any performance issues.

 

[JJPage]

sag2, Thank you for the info!



We will keep watching to see where this goes.



Jess

 

[Tinman]

Motorhead:



My experience is that the stock in-tank pump is inadequate for 2 micron filtration. I ran the Glacier/Walbro pump and in-tank pumps for a while. I had a switch to toggle between the two pumps. I run a Stanadyne Fuel Manager with a Donaldson 2 micron filter and 10 mic in the stock canister. Using the stock pump, I could easily drop pressure to zero on moderate accerlation. Lost about 3 psi at idle. I only used the stock pump as a back up and when fuel got below 1/4 tank causing air in the line with the added Walbro draw straw. (I have since removed the in-tank pump (put it in my wife's Libby) and changed pumps to a Raptor that draws from the canister (no more 1/4 tank problems)).

 

[Motorhead]

Motorhead:

My experience is that the stock in-tank pump is inadequate for 2 micron filtration. I ran the Glacier/Walbro pump and in-tank pumps for a while. I had a switch to toggle between the two pumps. I run a Stanadyne Fuel Manager with a Donaldson 2 micron filter and 10 mic in the stock canister. Using the stock pump, I could easily drop pressure to zero on moderate accerlation. Lost about 3 psi at idle. I only used the stock pump as a back up and when fuel got below 1/4 tank causing air in the line with the added Walbro draw straw. (I have since removed the in-tank pump (put it in my wife's Libby) and changed pumps to a Raptor that draws from the canister (no more 1/4 tank problems)).

Tinman, Thanks for the advice. I will check my FP. I still have my SPA digital gauge from my old second gen. I will have to hook it up.

 

[JLovas]

Clean fuel is VERY important, but one thing I will say is that 2 micron filters have no tolerence for gelled fuel. This and the fact that the ULS fuel seems to gel at a higher temp than the "old" low sulfer fuel. If a 5 or a 7 or a 10 micron filter is "good enough" to protect the high pressure side of the fuel system, than one might want to leave it alone. I've seen it several times when the weather gets cold, the 2 micron fuel systems will gel, and the 5/7/10 micron filters will run. Just food for thought for those in cold climates.

 

[HBarlow]

Fascinating. Too bad it took them 6 years to recognize the problem and do something about it.

Ryan

For the sake of discussion, is the OEM factory fuel filter really a problem or inadequate? The matter seems more a matter of opinion than provable fact.

I put 325k miles on my first Dodge-Cummins, an '01 HO/six spd with RV275hp injectors using only the standard Cummins Fleetguard filters from Geno's changed at 15k intervals. I replaced one injection pump at a little over 100k miles due to mistaken diagnosis of a problem. I'm not sure I would have ever replaced an injection pump if not for that mistake. I put the miles on pretty quickly hauling commercially buying about 95% of fuel at Flying Js all over the US and CN. Never used additives either except a little Power Service anti-gel when ambient temps were below 15*.

Same with an '06, 230k miles in less than two years. All factory original, Fleetguard fuel filters changed @ 15k intervals. Never replaced an injector, injection pump, or transfer pump.

IMO, expensive aftermarket fuel filter systems are nice but not necessary.

 

[sag2]

The secret is "properly maintaining" the fuel system. Unfortunately most diesel owners neglect the fuel system like it is a gas truck, and that is where the problems start. The dual filtration setup regardless of who supplies it adds a margin of safety for the system. And if you are running in especially dirty conditions like the oil fields or farming, it is probably a very good option. But to answer your question, the 7 micron and the soon to be 5 micron OEM filters are more than adequate for the average driver IF they are changed at the 15,000 mile interval. The dual filter gives superior water stripping 20 micron filter and then allows water and debris free fuel to the finish filter where it can do a better job.

I just saw a customer truck (6. 7) that picked up a large amount of water and the customer drove it until it quit. His insurance company came out and inspected it and denied the coverage because he could only supply one filter change receipt in 50,000. They said no deal for lack of proper maintenance.

The bill for pumps, tubes, and injectors is $21,000! Makes a $750 dual filter pretty cheap by comparison.

 

[AH64ID]

Is your stock intank pump able to push fuel effectively through a 2 micron filter? Are you using a fuel pressure gauge to check?

I am pushing thru a 20um filter, a 5um filter (OE location) and a 2um filter (true 2um, not the Fleetguard 2um that is really 5um) on a OE LP. I measure my pressure between the 2um and the CP3. With the Smarty on SW1 I don't see below 5-5. 5psi ever. On SW2 I don't see below 4. 5-5psi. Thats with 23K miles on all 3 filters.

Here is the rest of the TSB. I'm assuming the revised lift pump is to maintain adequate fuel flow through the dual stage filter.

SUBJECT:
Heavy Duty Filtration - MOPAR Retrofit or Add On Parts Available
MODELS:
2004 - 2009 (D1/DH) Ram Truck (2500/3500 Pick Up)
2007 - 2009 (DC) Ram Truck (3500 Cab Chassis)
NOTE: This bulletin applies to D1/DH vehicles equipped with a 5. 9L Cummins engine
built after January 1, 2005 and D1/DH/DC vehicles equipped with a 6. 7L
Cummins engine built from 2007 model year (sales codes ETH, ETJ).
DISCUSSION:
Several fuel system add-on or retrofit parts are available to enhance the filtering capability
for customers exposing their vehicles to extremely dirty conditions.
Description of parts available for Cummins diesel equipped vehicles are listed below:
· 5. 9L & 6. 7L Water stripping, frame mounted filter kit. This kit includes the following:
revised lift pump, lines, heater, water in fuel (WIF) sensor, and instructions.
· 6. 7L up-graded (5 micron) fuel filter to retrofit earlier models (shell and element).
· 6. 7L Element only, fuel filter.
· 5. 9L & 6. 7L Add-on or up-graded fuel tank vent hose kit with vent cap.
NOTE: Several parts will be added to this bulletin when they are available. The
bulletin will be revised when they become available. These parts include a
Filter with Bracket assembly which will replace the cap on the fuel tank vents
for all the above vehicles, a 5 micron fuel filter for 5. 9 engines and an
improved air filter for 5. 9 engines.
NOTE: The maintenance intervals for the fuel filters (engine mounted filter and
chassis mounted severe duty fuel filtration kit filter) maintain a 15,000 mile
service requirement for both.

Good deal. I am interested in the WIF sensor and the updated LP... I already have EXCESSIVE filtration.

For the sake of discussion, is the OEM factory fuel filter really a problem or inadequate? The matter seems more a matter of opinion than provable fact.

Well according to Bosch the HPCR system in our trucks needs 5um filtration. OE didn't want to go that route and started with 10um filtration. They had a lot of issues and went with 7um filtration, still not what Bosch recommends... Bosch builds are pump and injectors, so I am going to go off what they recommend... When your talking 23K psi in stock for there is no such thing as too clean of fuel.

 

[brods]

I am pushing thru a 20um filter, a 5um filter (OE location) and a 2um filter (true 2um, not the Fleetguard 2um that is really 5um) on a OE LP. I measure my pressure between the 2um and the CP3. With the Smarty on SW1 I don't see below 5-5. 5psi ever. On SW2 I don't see below 4. 5-5psi. Thats with 23K miles on all 3 filters.

Sounds good. What is the lowest ambient temperatures you have seen with that system? Is your truck parked outside? What pressures at the cp3 did you have during the cold?







Did anyone else catch the improved air filter for 5. 9s comment in the tsb?

 

[AH64ID]

Sounds good. What is the lowest ambient temperatures you have seen with that system? Is your truck parked outside? What pressures at the cp3 did you have during the cold?

I saw single digits, with no change in pressures.



Idle I see 8-9. 5, normal cruise is about 7-8.

 

[brods]

Thanks for the info... . I was hoping you had experience with lower numbers. Around here it's been as low as -13F and the truck is always parked outside.