Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) New ride squeaks the belt on EVERY shutdown.

[Chace TX]

I am on my 5th Cummins Dodge, and all would squal or squeak the belt on shutdown, sometimes. This new one does it every single time. I am going to replace the belt, but I have never had one do this before, on every shutdown. Any other trucks do this.

 

[roxieandduke]

the squeak

i heard its normal, matt

 

[Pit Bull]

Just means the engine has a lot of compression and the belt can't stop that fast. Mine does it on any shut down after I have driven it at least 10 miles? I would not worry about this and use that money for a bomb for your new rig.

 

[lschultz]

Take it back to the dealer. But they will probably tell you thats normal that they all do it. Thats bull****. The 95 I had was bad about that(just lived with it). 98 I had did not do it. This 2000 I have has done it maybe 3 times in 62000 miles. My sons 99 has never done it. I think he replaced the belt at 100000 with the Gatorback and it don't do it. Your engine has character lets you know when its off.

 

[Farmall Hauler]

Hello!



I do know that my brother's truck squeaks, and both of my neighbor's first generation also do the same!

 

[Got Smoke?]

Drees1(Doug Resse) told me that it's normal for our engines to do this. Our engines have so much compression that the belt can't stop when we turn it off. I had to replace mine because it was cracking, but it has still squeaked once or twice?



Just my . 02

 

[cjohnson]

If you relocate or eliminate the crankcase breather bottle, which is located up on front of engine, down underneath and back, you should eliminate squeak and prolong belt life. Not to mention keep the engine and the rest of truck much cleaner. The oily residue that is discharged from here causes the belt to slip on shutdown. There are many posts on the topic if you search.





Craig

 

[Chace TX]

cjohnson

I'm thinking along your lines. Like I said, I have had 4 other pickups like this and they very seldom did this (I do understand why they do it). I had a 2001, before this one and I took off the bottle and ran a tube down to the a frame, the day after I bought it. It very seldom squeaked. I already picked up the hose and fitting to get this one down below the frame, just did not put it on yet. I bet that and a little belt dressing will silence it.

 

[Shovelhead]

Checked the search for a Goodyear "Gatorback" belt.

It has a texture on the back-side to eliminate the "Chirp".



Results from search for gatorback:



Most likely it's the serpentine belt slipping. Very common. Replace it with a Goodyear Gatorback belt part #4080810 or Napa 8PK2055 and your problem will disappear.





HTH

 

[cjohnson]

Chace,



Mine hasn't squeaked since relocating vent hose back and under the motor. Keeps the ISB nice and clean too.



Shovelhead,



I'm sure the gator belt works great, but it doesn't address the issue of oil residue all over front of engine and belts.



Craig

 

[Shovelhead]

My '99 doesn't puke oil all over the front of my engine bay.

Of course my "pill bottle" dissappeared too.

 

[DPelletier]

Mine does it 80% of the time. Has done it from day 1. The compression is so high the engine doesn't freewheel at all. Stops instantly. Accessories don't want to stop (inertia). Hence - chirp. I think its normal and I wouldn't worry about it. I am sure that there are some belts with better friction that may lessen the slip, but unless the noise bothers you.....

The blowby bottle relocation idea is interesting, but seeing as how mine chirped with 25km on the clock, I don't see a buildup of oily residue as a likely cause. My $ . 02

As far as why not all trucks or all the time: ambient temperature difference, temp of belts and pulley, accessories engaged, brand of belt, wear of belt (if its worn enough it may slip without chirping), wear of tensioner spring, differences in engine compression, etc. etc.

Dave

 

[cjohnson]

I can only speak from my experience. But I'll tell you this. Don't think that 25km isn't enough time on the clock to start the squeak from the oily residue. When was the last time you took a look at the front of your motor? I rerouted my breather tube early on and washed the motor off - hasn't chirped once since and it did often before. I had two buddies with 01 trucks do the same thing with the same results. Coincidence... I doubt it. That being said, I don't think the chirp is anything to wory about, just that relocating breather seems to remedy in most cases and certainly keeps entire engine compartment much cleaner - that is always better.



Craig

 

[Cummins Cowboy]

I had a first gen and i never ever heard the belt chirp, although my 02 does it about 1/2 of the time. As far as getting rid of the puke bottle and rerouting the hose. I have heard some say that this will freeze up in the winter and not let ventilation out, what is the best procedure for rerouting the hose

 

[Chace TX]

c.c.

If you route the breather tube, so that there are no "valley's", i. e. always going down. It cannot trap condensation, and will not freeze. This is my theory anyway, where I live it only freezes hard a few times a year. Someone from cold country might have other experiences.

 

[damon]

me too......

My 2002 with 3000 miles has chirped EVERY time that I have shut it down, cold, hot, wet, or dry. I like how someone described it in another thread as "personality", and it does not bug me a bit as long as it is not harming anything.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

It's not uncommon for the belt to squeek OCASSIONALLY on shutdown - but face it, if it's doing that EVERY time, something's not right! Could be a looser than normal idler spring, or something specific the the characteristics of your particular drive belt - probably nothing to get overly excited about, and highly doubtful that your particular Cummins has any more, or less compression than others... A new belt MIGHT take care of it, but probably not really worth the expense and effort unless it REALLY bothers you - and if you DO get a new belt, the squeeky one will make a good backup for emergency use - a good idea in any event...

 

[kaptn]

I have had a 1999 2500 and a2001. 5 3500 and they both chirped at shut down from day one. Compression I believe. My . 02

 

[Pit Bull]

Say after me - This is not a problem

 

[WMeyers]

I can say "This is not a problem. " Mine has done it all of the time from day one.