New Six Speed Auto, who makes it?

[ACerf]

Is DC making the new AISIN AS68RC auto trans? Or did it come from one of the other DC divisions? Or an outside source?

 

[blacksheep4x4]

Supposedly AISIN is a Japanese company.

 

[BRayls]

south korean

 

[nickleinonen]

http://www.aisin-ai.co.jp/english/



looks like japanese from their web address...

 

[RustyJC]

Aisin is a Japanese company. They, as well as a joint venture called Aisin-Warner, make transmissions for clients such as Toyota.



Rusty

 

[cerberusiam]

Aisin is a Japanese company. They, as well as a joint venture called Aisin-Warner, make transmissions for clients such as Toyota.



Rusty

... and DC, and GM, and Freightliner (DC), and Misubishi, and ... ... .

 

[ACerf]

Looking at the web site provided. I would say that DC has hooked up with some great company! Some very will known customers use there products, which should indicate some good quality control, and proformance from their products. I am ready to get one!

 

[Bob4x4]

... and DC, and GM, and Freightliner (DC), and Misubishi, and ... ... .

and Jeep.



Bob

 

[DieselNasty]

I wanted to find out the same thing, I did find out one of their transmission clients is Allison. If these trannys are similar to an Allison im fine with the company, just wish it was an American brand.

 

[y-knot]

Un-fourtunitly it is another forgine country manufacturer. They may or may not make good transmissions, but I would think that they could be made just as good here in the USA. I am not very political, but I am dam tired of everything we use coming from some other place other then the USA. Our trade deficit is getting to the point of ridicules, we depend on others for everything. What happened to the USA that was looked up too by all other nations? It's not just this transmission, it's everything. The automotive builders have relocated to mexico, not for a better build, but for a lower cost. Every time we buy something made anywhere else but here, we lower our standard and raise theres. Manufacturing jobs are good paying jobs, and they are disappearing like clean air. I do not write this for me, I am set and retired, but for others like my son and his son's, what will be left for them?



I feel better now, thanks

 

[mattymac]

Un-fourtunitly it is another forgine country manufacturer. They may or may not make good transmissions, but I would think that they could be made just as good here in the USA. I am not very political, but I am dam tired of everything we use coming from some other place other then the USA. Our trade deficit is getting to the point of ridicules, we depend on others for everything. What happened to the USA that was looked up too by all other nations? It's not just this transmission, it's everything. The automotive builders have relocated to mexico, not for a better build, but for a lower cost. Every time we buy something made anywhere else but here, we lower our standard and raise theres. Manufacturing jobs are good paying jobs, and they are disappearing like clean air. I do not write this for me, I am set and retired, but for others like my son and his son's, what will be left for them?



I feel better now, thanks

I think they choose them because they have made many great products for a long time, It is cheaper to sub it out to some other company that only specializes in a certain trade, DONT REINVENT THE WHEEL!

 

[BSkinner]

Un-fourtunitly it is another forgine country manufacturer. They may or may not make good transmissions, but I would think that they could be made just as good here in the USA. I am not very political, but I am dam tired of everything we use coming from some other place other then the USA. Our trade deficit is getting to the point of ridicules, we depend on others for everything. What happened to the USA that was looked up too by all other nations? It's not just this transmission, it's everything. The automotive builders have relocated to mexico, not for a better build, but for a lower cost. Every time we buy something made anywhere else but here, we lower our standard and raise theres. Manufacturing jobs are good paying jobs, and they are disappearing like clean air. I do not write this for me, I am set and retired, but for others like my son and his son's, what will be left for them?



I feel better now, thanks

I'm afraid that's the way things are going to be from now on. For real insight into the way things are and will continue to be, read "The World is Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman. Kind of scary but this is the direction the world is taking. Wait until manufacturing in this country all jump on the same band wagon IBP and other packing plants have---cheap Mexican labor. The only hope for our kids and grandkids for the future is education that matches that of the "third world". Building new school buildings isn't raising the educational level of our kids. It's just wasting money. Tech jobs are going to India, supposedly a "third world" country who's kids sit on dirt floors in crappy classrooms. We need to concentrate on improving actual education, not "eyewash".

If things don't change, the USA will continue to lose ground to developing countries. The resources that could be used to increase our position economically are being squandered overseas. We're all going to pay the price down the road.



Bob

 

[Diesel Power]

Un-fourtunitly it is another forgine country manufacturer. They may or may not make good transmissions, but I would think that they could be made just as good here in the USA. I am not very political, but I am dam tired of everything we use coming from some other place other then the USA. Our trade deficit is getting to the point of ridicules, we depend on others for everything. What happened to the USA that was looked up too by all other nations? It's not just this transmission, it's everything. The automotive builders have relocated to mexico, not for a better build, but for a lower cost. Every time we buy something made anywhere else but here, we lower our standard and raise theres. Manufacturing jobs are good paying jobs, and they are disappearing like clean air. I do not write this for me, I am set and retired, but for others like my son and his son's, what will be left for them?



I feel better now, thanks

i come from a union back ground and agree 100%

 

[tgrfan2]

http://www.aisin-ai.co.jp/english/



looks like japanese from their web address...

If that is the correct web site, they state they only make manual transmissions and what they call automated manual transmissions. Maybe they have a spin off company, but I didn't find anything Googling Aisin Warner.

I remember an article several years ago where it stated Dodge was working on a clutchless 6 speed. Maybe this is the end product. Is that a parking brake on the output end?

 

[cerberusiam]

Try this one:



http://www.aisin-aw.co.jp/en/02products/index.html



Aisin Warner was a cooperative effort to build transmissions but I think Aisin built them and Warner tagged them.

 

[tgrfan2]

Thanks. I didn't check out the FWD section thinking it would be for econo cars alone. I hope we can get some specs on the transmission soon. I hope it is not going to be too light for the long haul. Allison is on the verge of losing their bulletproof image now for that reason.

 

[BHolm]

I am pretty sure the 6 speed auto in my Porsche Cayenne is built by Aisin-Warner as well. The initial thought of an oriental made trans in a powerful German machine made me skeptical. After 30k miles I must say that it works beautifully. Shifts are almost imperceptible and the features that can be integrated on these new electronic auto transmissions are very nice. Of course the downside is that if you need to add a bunch of torque capacity it will make upgrading a 47/48re look cheap.



As far as the products coming from across our borders... . flame me if you like but the money paid to union members in the auto industry is the problem. Guys making $35/hr to do simple assembly line work is insane. While it may provide a decent "living wage" it is way out of whack for the actual work done. We are about to witness GM file bankruptcy based on the exhorbinant union wage and benefit packages. They brought it on themselves by agreeing to it but that doesn't make it right, and it certainly is no way to remain competitive.



For you guys that insist American made is the only way to go, would you pay and extra $5-10K for the same truck, just to see it built 100% in the US? Some might claim the would but if Ford and GM didn't change and offerred competitive products for that much less..... DC would be the one in trouble.

 

[nickleinonen]

Guys making $35/hr to do simple assembly line work is insane

i completely agree, and i am a member of the CAW. . they make too much money for assembly line... i make $8-$10 an hour less than gm,ford,chrysler and i know on most days i do 10x the work they do. [then again, sometimes i get days where i do 1/2 the work they do] and their work is clean... if i get power assembly work or traction motor change out work, i get completely filthy

 

[JPLB22]

Not to hijack the thread, but I also agree with BHolm. I am also union, IBEW. I like to make as much money as possible, but we may find in the future that we were are our own worst enemies.



Jeff

 

[brods]

Do you guys know something? Isn't the 68RFE (based off the 48RE and to be built in Kokomo USA) going to be the six speed for our trucks?